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post Mar 16 2023, 04:49 PM

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QUOTE(Thebestscammer @ Mar 16 2023, 04:15 PM)
there is some ktard in kopitiam that builds custom pc as that is his actual day job
sometimes he will post pics of him building it maybe you can ask him
but if you ask for custom build and want the store to build it for you, the price may be the same as buying pre-built since the store will charge a fixing fee to fix it up for you which may or may not be cheap i.e. 10% fixing fee of your entire rig so if you buy 6k pc then its 600$ fixing fee
there are lots of ktards that love to build it for free for you but you'd be gambling on which one is sane and which one is insane
honestly building it your own is very satisfying but I can understand if you dont want to coz cable management is a pain in the ass and its actually a lot harder than what people say
so what you should do it compare the prices of custom + fixing fee and prebuilt
also, for 5k you can get the top 30% of the line specs. if top up 1k to 6k total you can get top 10% of the line
but you need to give more details on what you want to do with the pc before people can suggest something legit.
the one advice I'd give is dont cheap out on psu. I see lots of people suggesting no name brand psu but if you're gonna be powering a rtx 4090, im sure you want a reputable psu instead of a house fire right?
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No way 5k can get much nowadays. 3060ti alone also 2k already, i7 12th gen also almost 1.6k, mobo 1k. No money for good PSU good coolers.
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post Mar 16 2023, 04:55 PM

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QUOTE(shaniandras2787 @ Mar 16 2023, 04:06 PM)


I saw from Microsoft website that it costs close to RM1k for it --> Source
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Well, if you are retiring your old laptop or if it breaks down already, you may be able to reuse back the genuine windows key from it.. Since windows 10 windows key/license can be linked to your Microsoft account so when you are installing windows on new pc all u need to do is sign in the account and your Windows will be activated(assuming its the same version)..

Personally, my current pc is still using the original key from my old laptop(from 2010 if i remember correctly).. This is already my 3rd computer with same base windows key biggrin.gif
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post Mar 16 2023, 05:00 PM

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QUOTE(Thebestscammer @ Mar 16 2023, 04:15 PM)
there is some ktard in kopitiam that builds custom pc as that is his actual day job
sometimes he will post pics of him building it maybe you can ask him
but if you ask for custom build and want the store to build it for you, the price may be the same as buying pre-built since the store will charge a fixing fee to fix it up for you which may or may not be cheap i.e. 10% fixing fee of your entire rig so if you buy 6k pc then its 600$ fixing fee
there are lots of ktards that love to build it for free for you but you'd be gambling on which one is sane and which one is insane
honestly building it your own is very satisfying but I can understand if you dont want to coz cable management is a pain in the ass and its actually a lot harder than what people say
so what you should do it compare the prices of custom + fixing fee and prebuilt
also, for 5k you can get the top 30% of the line specs. if top up 1k to 6k total you can get top 10% of the line
but you need to give more details on what you want to do with the pc before people can suggest something legit.
the one advice I'd give is dont cheap out on psu. I see lots of people suggesting no name brand psu but if you're gonna be powering a rtx 4090, im sure you want a reputable psu instead of a house fire right?
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i got a little bit "inspired" on assembling my own after watching too many videos on building a system but given my history with electronics, i'm sure to break something expensive in between and i also know that building appears to be easy but can become very technical for newbies which is why i'm being cautious at the moment.

I want a gaming system that can accommodate High setting but if not, Medium for triple A titles will do just fine hence i'm referring the XPS's price as a budget gauge because my current XPS 8910 is acceptable to me.

Yeap, i've known all along that PSU cannot be cheap'd out - which is why the first thing that I tried to upgrade in my XPS8910 (before anything else) is actually the PSU but after finding out it's proprietary, i gave up.

QUOTE(lawliet88 @ Mar 16 2023, 04:22 PM)
So custom set tldr is diy set or self pick part then some1 assemble for u. Those "combo" or whatever package by shop 99.9% is custom, jz that the shop pick the part, some allow u to upgrade or down.

Prebuilt is like dell xpg u using , watever alienware crap system. Those are like they design a pc case , then fit watever crap in, sometime shit psu + ok gpu + no brand ssd etc. Some allow upgrade but still wont disclose what exact brand/model they using.

OS unless u using it to work in big corp environment then u buy from official. If home use jz buy those rm5 windows10 key from shopee/laz. Buy KEY CODE, not crack/file that activate.
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tak takut ke those keys from shopee etc - nanti susceptible to ransomware sweat.gif
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post Mar 16 2023, 05:04 PM

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QUOTE(Gargamel_gibson @ Mar 16 2023, 04:49 PM)
No way 5k can get much nowadays. 3060ti alone also 2k already, i7 12th gen also almost 1.6k, mobo 1k. No money for good PSU good coolers.
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does Intel still have i5s?

my current XPS is running on i5 and it's ok for me - thought i7s are meant for multi-threading (or whatever they called it).

QUOTE(Devil7801 @ Mar 16 2023, 04:55 PM)
Well, if you are retiring your old laptop or if it breaks down already, you may be able to reuse back the genuine windows key from it.. Since windows 10 windows key/license can be linked to your Microsoft account so when you are installing windows on new pc all u need to do is sign in the account and your Windows will be activated(assuming its the same version)..

Personally, my current pc is still using the original key from my old laptop(from 2010 if i remember correctly).. This is already my 3rd computer with same base windows key  biggrin.gif
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it's a home desktop and it's not broken down yet but it has been 7 years already and i feel an upgrade/replacement is nigh.

well, this is something new to me, i didn't know Windows OS is actually "transferrable". Aren't they bound to the PC that first installed them?
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post Mar 16 2023, 05:09 PM

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QUOTE(shaniandras2787 @ Mar 16 2023, 05:00 PM)
tak takut ke those keys from shopee etc - nanti susceptible to ransomware  sweat.gif
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Those key is just 16 or more digit of code use to activate windows, u will get legit windows n update. Windows close one eye on this becoz they want more ppl to use the OS.

U can even use win xp or 7 activator to activate then upgrade to win10, but that another story.

You dont seriously think ur comp will get into trouble jz becoz u enter random 16digit into windows activation database right.
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post Mar 16 2023, 05:23 PM

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QUOTE(lawliet88 @ Mar 16 2023, 05:09 PM)
Those key is just 16 or more digit of code use to activate windows, u will get legit windows n update. Windows close one eye on this becoz they want more ppl to use the OS.

U can even use win xp or 7 activator to activate then upgrade to win10, but that another story.

You dont seriously think ur comp will get into trouble jz becoz u enter random 16digit into windows activation database right.
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I was thinking more like in order for the Windows to work, a specific "version" of the Windows needed to be downloaded from the link provided by the seller - something like those pirated software.

I saw my friend bought a "licensed" Lightroom from a shoppee seller for RM5 that comes with "unlimited use" and upon payment, the seller gave a download link to which the application is downloaded - i cannot trust the life in me to have purchased software like this especially when i use my home computer to basically access everything to my life (banking etc) shakehead.gif
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post Mar 16 2023, 05:35 PM

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QUOTE(shaniandras2787 @ Mar 16 2023, 05:23 PM)
I was thinking more like in order for the Windows to work, a specific "version" of the Windows needed to be downloaded from the link provided by the seller - something like those pirated software.

I saw my friend bought a "licensed" Lightroom from a shoppee seller for RM5 that comes with "unlimited use" and upon payment, the seller gave a download link to which the application is downloaded - i cannot trust the life in me to have purchased software like this especially when i use my home computer to basically access everything to my life (banking etc)  shakehead.gif
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Thats why i mention buy only KEY Code, the seller will send u the number digits only. Some clown will send along a link to dl windows la,jz dont bother with that.

U dl wins10 from official win site into a usb, fresh install urself then late part only u input the activation key code.

The lightroom thing u mention is cracked version , diff story, n yes those got certain vulnerability.

While windows os, once u enter the code n OK, u done, at most just do a reformat/fresh install again if u paranoid. License is tie to motherboard so format wont affect it.



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post Mar 16 2023, 05:39 PM

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QUOTE(nuvi @ Mar 16 2023, 03:58 PM)
Nobody recommend that 1 ktard that always build PC and post drills in /k?? No jaga geng sendiri

Cannot remember his name, samjet or something
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He can’t in charge of the price. He only do the assembly.
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post Mar 16 2023, 05:41 PM

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QUOTE(Gargamel_gibson @ Mar 16 2023, 04:49 PM)
No way 5k can get much nowadays. 3060ti alone also 2k already, i7 12th gen also almost 1.6k, mobo 1k. No money for good PSU good coolers.
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I’ll say i7 and 1k mobo are still high end stuffs meant for bangsawan or those have too much money to spare.

Normies can live just as well with i5 and sub RM600 MOBO.
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QUOTE(shaniandras2787 @ Mar 16 2023, 05:04 PM)
does Intel still have i5s?

my current XPS is running on i5 and it's ok for me - thought i7s are meant for multi-threading (or whatever they called it).
it's a home desktop and it's not broken down yet but it has been 7 years already and i feel an upgrade/replacement is nigh.

well, this is something new to me, i didn't know Windows OS is actually "transferrable". Aren't they bound to the PC that first installed them?
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What graphics card do you have now, or your full current pc specs
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post Mar 16 2023, 05:44 PM

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QUOTE(shaniandras2787 @ Mar 16 2023, 05:00 PM)
i got a little bit "inspired" on assembling my own after watching too many videos on building a system but given my history with electronics, i'm sure to break something expensive in between and i also know that building appears to be easy but can become very technical for newbies which is why i'm being cautious at the moment.

I want a gaming system that can accommodate High setting but if not, Medium for triple A titles will do just fine hence i'm referring the XPS's price as a budget gauge because my current XPS 8910 is acceptable to me.

Yeap, i've known all along that PSU cannot be cheap'd out - which is why the first thing that I tried to upgrade in my XPS8910 (before anything else) is actually the PSU but after finding out it's proprietary, i gave up.
tak takut ke those keys from shopee etc - nanti susceptible to ransomware  sweat.gif
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No issue with keys if you’re just using them to register your installation. It’s still only keys which you’ll use to activate a genuine installation of windows from Microsoft.

Just that you pretty much know bout the legality of such cheap licenses, so it’s like pakai buang stuffs with a low chance of it getting void somewhere down the line. If you use your PC solely for home and private uses, I wont be overly concerned about the legality of them.

Heh I have friends running PC unactivated windows for years just fine.

This post has been edited by msacras: Mar 16 2023, 05:53 PM
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QUOTE(msacras @ Mar 16 2023, 05:41 PM)
I’ll say i7 and 1k mobo are still high end stuffs meant for bangsawan or those have too much money to spare.

Normies can live just as well with i5 and sub RM600 MOBO.
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5000 budget can only get i5 and 3060ti meh, damn stupid prices leh. Personally I'd rather used 1080TI for 800 bucks la.
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QUOTE(Gargamel_gibson @ Mar 16 2023, 05:49 PM)
5000 budget can only get i5 and 3060ti meh, damn stupid prices leh. Personally I'd rather used 1080TI for 800 bucks la.
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My rough budgeting

CPU - 1k
MOBO - 500
RAM - 500
PSU - 500
SSD - 500
CASING AND COOLER - 500

You just left with about RM1.5k for GPU, which is about nice to get 3060TI.

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post Mar 16 2023, 06:13 PM

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QUOTE(Gargamel_gibson @ Mar 16 2023, 05:41 PM)
What graphics card do you have now, or your full current pc specs
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stock XPS 8910 with only one upgrade, the GPU to GTX 1050Ti.
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QUOTE(shaniandras2787 @ Mar 16 2023, 05:04 PM)
does Intel still have i5s?

my current XPS is running on i5 and it's ok for me - thought i7s are meant for multi-threading (or whatever they called it).
it's a home desktop and it's not broken down yet but it has been 7 years already and i feel an upgrade/replacement is nigh.

well, this is something new to me, i didn't know Windows OS is actually "transferrable". Aren't they bound to the PC that first installed them?
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Well, it was bound to hardware(motherboard) before, but I think now MS changed that so that it is bound to your account instead of hardware coz hardware will fail eventually.. Mine came from my very old Windows 7 laptop, used the key back then for my 2nd pc and upgraded to Windows 10, and now when that 2nd pc died I just reused the same "key" that is bound on my MS account to activate my 3rd pc.. However, this also means that in order to reuse old key, the old pc must be dead or at least reformatted and Windows not activated.. Also, now MS still offer free upgrade to Windows 11 from Windows 10 so I now can upgrade to Windows 11, but I like Windows 10 so will keep that for now..

As some others has stated, those RM5 keys from Shoppe also works.. I used that on all of my pc build for for friends, and no issue.. The Windows was installed using official ISO downloaded from MS website so it is clean, those Shoppe seller normally just chat u on Shoppe with the keys(some seller also gives link to official MS website)..
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I bought my fully assembled custom PC (without monitor) 2 years ago from PCByte, reasonable prices and they deliver interstate to the house. Was very professionally packed, casing/components didn't come loose or get damaged.

You can look at their FaceBook page GTX Solution by PCByte and contact them for a quote, ask for parts availability etc. I paid by bank transfer.
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Idealtech has some package deals if you're interested:

https://idealtech.com.my/gaming-pcs/


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post Mar 16 2023, 10:41 PM

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Actually custom build PCs can be the best value per performance is because we actually buy the best price per performance(among all shops) parts and build ourselves.

It is not really a good value if you buy custom-built PCs as they tend to mark up the price a little, keep the extra cables/freebies for themselves and resell them, or selling near obsolete or low performance models and/or parts to you guys. (Not all shops though but 99%)

Just two cents from a guy who have built more than 20 PCs.
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post Mar 17 2023, 12:55 AM

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QUOTE(david5343 @ Mar 16 2023, 10:41 PM)
Actually custom build PCs can be the best value per performance is because we actually buy the best price per performance(among all shops) parts and build ourselves.

It is not really a good value if you buy custom-built PCs as they tend to mark up the price a little, keep the extra cables/freebies for themselves and resell them, or selling near obsolete or low performance models and/or parts to you guys. (Not all shops though but 99%)

Just two cents from a guy who have built more than 20 PCs.
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Not necessarily. Spec by spec, prebuilt sometimes can be worth it, it's the upgrade path that you lose out, upgradability like proprietary PSU or motherboard.

Example this Dell, selling 5.3k

https://www.dell.com/en-my/shop/pcs-desktop...=configurations

You go online spec this pc up yourself see can be cheaper than 5.3k or not. I7-12700, 3060ti, 2x8gb ddr5, 512ssd 1tb hdd, plus windows 11.
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post Mar 17 2023, 10:43 AM

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QUOTE(Gargamel_gibson @ Mar 17 2023, 12:55 AM)
Not necessarily. Spec by spec, prebuilt sometimes can be worth it, it's the upgrade path that you lose out, upgradability like proprietary PSU or motherboard.

Example this Dell, selling 5.3k

https://www.dell.com/en-my/shop/pcs-desktop...=configurations

You go online spec this pc up yourself see can be cheaper than 5.3k or not. I7-12700, 3060ti, 2x8gb ddr5, 512ssd 1tb hdd, plus windows 11.
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Cpu - i7 12700f - 1400 (jz get f = no igpu)
Mobo - msi pro b660m d5 -670
Gpu -gainward 3060ti - 1730
1 stick 16gb ddr5 4800mhz kingston fury -290
Crucial p5 plus 500gb ssd - 285
Psu adata core reactor 650w - 410

rm4785
Win11 rm5

Rm510 remain for casing and spare hdd/ssd/cpu cooler

Bad is, almost all from separate shop and cpu low stock amount.
Good is if u can self assemble, buy during laz promo can save around few hundred more

That xps system using 460w psu only kek.




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