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TSmushigen
post Mar 15 2023, 10:54 AM, updated 3y ago

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Dear all,

I'm pulling a new wire from DB for my induction cooker. Not decided which hob model, but should be 3.5-5 kW type.

1) may i know if 4mm wire is sufficient?

2) When someone says 4mm, he means 4mm² cross sectional of copper part or 4mm diameter?

3) what rating mcb should I use, 20 or 32A?

4) can I tap from this new cable to power the kitchen hood and a new SSO?

5) should I go for 6mm cable to future-proof? Maybe future hobs are more power hungry or I can further tap off power from this line to install built-in oven? Is installing 6mm vs 4mm cable much more difficult and costly?

6)EDIT: electrical contractor suggests pulling 2 sets of 2.5mm² wires to give load of 30A. Is this type of "parallel" cabling common?
Thank you.

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post Mar 15 2023, 11:35 AM

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QUOTE(acbc @ Mar 15 2023, 10:59 AM)
6mm is futureproofed especially since u don't need to hack up the walls again to change it later in the future.

32A is mostly for high-powered instant water heaters such as the Stibel Eltron DHC 8 XG.

20A is sufficient for hob.
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QUOTE(fireballs @ Mar 15 2023, 11:03 AM)
1. 4mm2 is sufficient. provided its copper and real sirim approved. eg mega cable.
2. refer to cross section area of the wire.
3. c25 for 4mm2,  c32 for 6mm2
4. yes can for small load
5. you may want to use 6mm2 sekaligus for future proofing.
for oven prefer to have dedicated cable. cannot run both at same time.

note: do not use socket for the stove. use a dedicated oven switch.
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How about running 2 sets of 2.5mm² wires as suggested by contractor? Contractor says this combo can give 30A and also 6mm² cables are more difficult/expensive to source.
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QUOTE(fireballs @ Mar 15 2023, 12:29 PM)
consider 2x 4mm2 better.

It's very common
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I think this is definitely more than what my small kitchen requires.
My concern with running 2x cables is what if there's a discontinuity or uneven load carrying capability in one of the cables - loose connection, cable fault/breakage, etc? Before the MCB trips, the wire that supports more load may overheat.

QUOTE(acbc @ Mar 15 2023, 12:31 PM)
6mm is pretty common when purchase from a electrical wiring supplier. General hardware usually don't sell these.
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That's what I think too. But costs almost double that of 4mm² . Rather having just one set of wires (either 4mm or 6mm) than the messy 2x2.5mm² system (6 wires to pull).
Internet research gives varying load of 4mm² wires, on paper it's sufficient for the present needs. So I wonder if it's too kiasu to go for 6mm².

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post Mar 15 2023, 01:55 PM

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QUOTE(marvinben @ Mar 15 2023, 01:45 PM)
2 set of 2.5mm.sq is common. Mostly done to reduce cost as 4mm.sq cable are very expensive (and you need to buy at least 2 color for the live and neutral, earth can use 2.5mm.sq green).

6mm.sq overkill for 5kW load. No need for that.
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Understand that 6mm² is overkill. Cable quality aside, what's the usual guideline on the max current 4mm² wires can take?
Also, do we use 220, 230 or 240V in calculation of current vs wattage?

Is 2x2.5mm² laying cost (material plus labour) cheaper than 4mm²? With 4mm², only need to pull 3 wires vs 6 for 2.5mm² per my conversation with the contractor.

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