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post Oct 14 2007, 08:23 PM, updated 19y ago

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What is the different between consumer & private banking? I know private bank something like credit suisse, ubs and so on right? But actually what is private banking main task?
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post Oct 14 2007, 08:44 PM

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QUOTE(rstusa @ Oct 14 2007, 08:23 PM)
What is the different between consumer & private banking? I know private bank something like credit suisse, ubs and so on right? But actually what is private banking main task?
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Private banking is a special service to ease the transactions of high networth people..
Each banks has a minimum amount you need to have in your account to be eligible for private banking services..
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post Oct 14 2007, 08:56 PM

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where can you get the info either u r eligible for private banking services?
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post Oct 14 2007, 09:03 PM

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I believe Maybank requires a minimum deposit of RM 100k and higher and keep that amount monthly to qualify for private banking. Plus, this type of customers don't need to queue for any services. Just ring up and show the private banking card and immediate service will be provided right down to serving beverages.
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post Oct 14 2007, 10:35 PM

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Private or priority banking is usually for the rich and famous (nah...just kidding).
Yeah,it's like explained by Jordy and acbc. It's basically for the niche market.
You have to have a certain amount of investment or deposit with the bank to qualify for the status.
With this status, usually the bank would treat you more friendlier and attend to your request more efficiently.
Check out the bank's website to find out more on how much one needs to commit and also what's the benefits.
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post Oct 14 2007, 11:15 PM

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Oh, did you guys mean like HSBC Premier Account? Coz I know the hsbc premier need at least RM100K to maintain the acct and for the power vantage need RM75K to maintain also.

But i think is different with that, coz i heard my friend said private banking normally they got banker help you invest into high risk high return fund like hedge fund, american option, forex and futures. But our local malaysia bank i never saw the case like helping people trade this kind of investment even if you're a HSBC premier member, they just suggest you to trade a normal mutual fund like unit trust.

You guys can refer to this bank http://www.sgprivasia.com/gb/SGPAW_Prod_OurAppr.html they seems different like our normal bank.


Added on October 14, 2007, 11:21 pmUBS also something like private bank http://www.ubs.com , but i'm still not so sure the different this kind of bank compare to our normal bank like hsbc premier, sure they got the difference between it.

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post Oct 14 2007, 11:23 PM

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QUOTE(rstusa @ Oct 14 2007, 11:15 PM)
Oh, did you guys mean like HSBC Premier Account? Coz I know the hsbc premier need at least RM100K to maintain the acct and for the power vantage need RM75K to maintain also.

But i think is different with that, coz i heard my friend said private banking normally they got banker help you invest into high risk high return fund like hedge fund, american option, forex and futures. But our local malaysia bank i never saw the case like helping people trade this kind of investment even if you're a HSBC premier member, they just suggest you to trade a normal mutual fund like unit trust.

You guys can refer to this bank http://www.sgprivasia.com/gb/SGPAW_Prod_OurAppr.html they seems different like our normal bank.
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You can either deposit a large amount of cash as FD or you could use the investment facilities/plans that they offered.
For Citibank if I'm not wrong is RM500k to be their CitiGold Members.
I.e. This RM500k can be FD or you could opt to invest in funds managed by them. They would help you risk profile and advice accordingly.

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rstusa, I think that Vantage Account doesn't mean that you're eligible for private banking..
That account is commercial banking, whereby you register under your company name, not personal account..
HSBC Premier Account sounds more like a private banking, with focus on the priority of the client..
That SG Asia one is not a normal bank, it's more into investment banking where you can go through them to diversify your portfolio..

The difference with private banking is you can do your transactions in a different environment, with a red carpet treatment..
There's not much difference, just the service..
Private/Priority banking doesn't mean it's a different bank..
It's the same bank, but cater for different standard of clients..
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QUOTE(Jordy @ Oct 15 2007, 12:35 AM)
rstusa, I think that Vantage Account doesn't mean that you're eligible for private banking..
That account is commercial banking, whereby you register under your company name, not personal account..
HSBC Premier Account sounds more like a private banking, with focus on the priority of the client..
That SG Asia one is not a normal bank, it's more into investment banking where you can go through them to diversify your portfolio..

The difference with private banking is you can do your transactions in a different environment, with a red carpet treatment..
There's not much difference, just the service..
Private/Priority banking doesn't mean it's a different bank..
It's the same bank, but cater for different standard of clients..
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Is that private bank help people trade more high risk high reutrn funds?

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CIMB also got Consumer Banking and Direct Banking. I also wondering what're their differences.
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QUOTE(b00n @ Oct 14 2007, 11:23 PM)
You can either deposit a large amount of cash as FD or you could use the investment facilities/plans that they offered.
For Citibank if I'm not wrong is RM500k to be their CitiGold Members.
I.e. This RM500k can be FD or you could opt to invest in funds managed by them. They would help you risk profile and advice accordingly.
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For priviledge banking (Citigold for Citibank), 300K is enough. Most banks are impose that sum.

QUOTE(rstusa @ Oct 14 2007, 11:45 PM)
Is that private bank help people trade more high risk high reutrn funds?
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No, priviledge banking is as same as normal banking transation, just it is being separated out from normal one, may be got some extra structured product which minimum investment sum of 250K/product.

Banks here are not allowed by BNM to help investors to invest in hedge fund. Also banks launched the structured product which generally is more conservative in nature. Some of the capital guaranteed fund are invest into option market.

While private equity fund is different case.




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QUOTE(cherroy @ Oct 15 2007, 10:54 AM)
For priviledge banking (Citigold for Citibank), 300K is enough. Most banks are impose that sum.
No, priviledge banking is as same as normal banking transation, just it is being separated out from normal one, may be got some extra structured product which minimum investment sum of 250K/product.

Banks here are not allowed by BNM to help investors to invest in hedge fund. Also banks launched the structured product which generally is more conservative in nature. Some of the capital guaranteed fund are invest into option market.

While private equity fund is different case.
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You mean some private bank offer investment of option market with capital guarantee? I heard one of my friend said he invest fund more than RM100K into american option with private banking, but not sure got capital guarantee or not and he told me every 14 working days got a profit margin around 30%-40% after the deduction of banker commission, bank fees charges and so on.
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QUOTE(rstusa @ Oct 15 2007, 10:04 AM)
You mean some private bank offer investment of option market with capital guarantee? I heard one of my friend said he invest fund more than RM100K into american option with private banking, but not sure got capital guarantee or not and he told me every 14 working days got a profit margin around 30%-40% after the deduction of banker commission, bank fees charges and so on.
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No, what I said is some capital guaranteed UT are investing in option market already, just may be the UT holders doesn't understand. Mostly those are structured.

There are tons of investment tools or derivatives product in the market. But I don't think anyone can invest in option market directly through banks in Malaysia.
If a option can earn 30-40% in 14 days, surely it can be loss out totally also. <-- there is no free lunch in the world, you need to take high risk to get high return.
Better becareful what your friend try to tell you (not to say he is lying or not as if it is a real option, yes, it can earn that much but it also can lose out totally if market condition is not favourable to the option), a lot of scam in the internet also offer 1.5-3% daily one that claimed to be invest in option market also.
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Oct 15 2007, 11:20 AM)
No, what I said is some capital guaranteed UT are investing in option market already, just may be the UT holders doesn't understand. Mostly those are structured.

There are tons of investment tools or derivatives product in the market. But I don't think anyone can invest in option market directly through banks in Malaysia.
If a option can earn 30-40% in 14 days, surely it can be loss out totally also. <-- there is no free lunch in the world, you need to take high risk to get high return.
Better becareful what your friend try to tell you (not to say he is lying or not as if it is a real option, yes, it can earn that much but it also can lose out totally if market condition is not favourable to the option), a lot of scam in the internet also offer 1.5-3% daily one that claimed to be invest in option market also.
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But my friend told me he got signed contract under the bank, and the banker also discuss this issue with him in the bank.
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actually for capital protected funds, the fund manager invest ur money in options. Usualy they will allocated 90% in zero coupon and the rest in options. thats why u see usualy all those capital protected UT gives u a lower return then the open ended options.
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Private banking is a different animal compared to CtiGold, HSBC Premier and Stanchart's Priority banking (all 200k minimum deposit)

In Malaysia, the only bank offfering private banking is CIMB, and min requirement to enter is either RM2 or 3 mil deposits. Private banking is the 'in' thing for the super rich.
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Private banking (not priviledge banking) by international standard is the place that they will give out financial advisory for the rich one for the like how to spread your asset, risk management, investment portfolio etc.
Some banks needs at least 2-3 million (USD) so that you are eligible for the private banking.

Locally, I don't know about it much, as only got those priviledge banking centre.
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QUOTE(acbc @ Oct 14 2007, 09:03 PM)
I believe Maybank requires a minimum deposit of RM 100k and higher and keep that amount monthly to qualify for private banking. Plus, this type of customers don't need to queue for any services. Just ring up and show the private banking card and immediate service will be provided right down to serving beverages.
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I did enquire before it's RM200k-250k if didnt remember wrongly, Big money. Yes, you dont have to show up to the bank, just one call away and you can even ask them to do your any fav. LOL
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QUOTE(morgan @ Oct 20 2007, 12:44 PM)
I did enquire before it's RM200k-250k if didnt remember wrongly, Big money. Yes, you dont have to show up to the bank, just one call away and you can even ask them to do your any fav. LOL
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I think that is not private banking, just a VIP service.

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