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post Mar 12 2023, 10:16 PM

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What happened to Sabitzer?
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post Mar 13 2023, 12:05 AM

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Stupid ref. Red card ok I can accept the reasoning. But that clear handball penalty? WTF.
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post Mar 13 2023, 12:56 PM

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What the hell? We are not appealing for Case's red card?

SOS

What is in ETH's mind?
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post Mar 13 2023, 01:23 PM

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QUOTE(john_white @ Mar 13 2023, 01:21 PM)
Risk Management i think, based on my experience in FM  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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But Case's case already 4 matches ban.
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post Mar 18 2023, 12:30 AM

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Why do I get the feeling if that if the Qatari is successful in buying our club, Mbappe will come join in...
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post Mar 18 2023, 10:41 AM

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QUOTE(skylinelover @ Mar 18 2023, 09:24 AM)
lol this week match postpone WTF laugh.gif
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Our match? Takkan la 2 games in 2 days. whistling.gif

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post Mar 20 2023, 01:20 AM

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We are so disjointed. Fulham played better 1st half.
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post Mar 20 2023, 02:31 AM

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Willian should've just let that ball in. They have higher chances to win even if we equalized that moment. Now the meltdown have caused them the game. They indeed deserve to win up until that moment.
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post Mar 20 2023, 02:41 AM

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QUOTE(simmarjit @ Mar 20 2023, 02:39 AM)
Split second judgement ...dont really blame him, but Mitro and their manager should have kept their heads cool, now Mitro might be facing more than just a 3 game suspension.
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Yeah. Heat of the moment. But no excuse for Mitro and the manager.
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post Mar 23 2023, 10:42 AM

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Both Qatari and Sir Jim didn't submit their bid until now and has been given extension. Is this good or bad?


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post Mar 29 2023, 08:37 PM

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QUOTE(O-haiyo @ Mar 29 2023, 02:15 PM)
the take over macam tak jadi only. i think glazer nv want to sell. the bid is just for show off
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Glazer wants 6B but nobody want to pay that. If they don't sell they still have to pay Raine for all the services that they provided. And not to mention the stock price will plummet again.
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post Mar 31 2023, 02:04 PM

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QUOTE(don^don @ Mar 31 2023, 01:51 AM)

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Does the 500M+ includes the 200M+ lending as well?
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post Mar 31 2023, 08:33 PM

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QUOTE(don^don @ Mar 31 2023, 02:12 PM)
clearly you didnt watch, it did not. after including the 200M it's over 700M debt.
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I did watch but kinda confused by their wording. And apparently we have almost 1B worth of debt in total.
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post Apr 17 2023, 09:48 PM

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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Apr 17 2023, 09:17 PM)
BREAKING: Joel and Avram Glazer are increasingly confident of securing the outside investment that will enable them to remain as #mufc owners and potentially double the value of the club over the next decade.

Despite the confirmed bids from Sheikh Jassim and Ratcliffe, via his INEOS group, Joel and Avram believe that the potential for organic growth over the years ahead could make #mufc worth at least £10 billion.

With areas of growth anticipated in terms of broadcast revenue, streaming opportunities and a possible restructuring of the club game, there is a view within the #mufc hierarchy that it can become much more valuable with the required investment on and off the pitch.

With at least four hugely wealthy investment funds prepared to acquire a stake that would see them become minority shareholders, Joel and Avram Glazer have the opportunity to remain as owners of #mufc. [Mark Ogden]

Man...... Glazers super sucks ball
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This is just the Glazers trying to get higher bid. Everyone in the business know, if they want to secure outside investment, they will have to let go of their shares. That is akin to them putting in some of their own money into the club. Which is a big no no for their MO since the start of their acquisition. The dividend will be lesser too since they have less shares. No outside investment groups are crazy enough to give them money without having some sort of control over the club.
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post Apr 21 2023, 10:54 AM

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We are the team that played the most this season in whole of Europe. And we don't have the squad depth to maintain the consistency. With injuries and suspensions, we have no choice to play with what we have.

Plus see this as a bright side, take over price will not increase anymore since we are not potential Europa League champion. The Glazers cannot play tarik tali anymore with potential buyer.
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post Apr 28 2023, 05:19 AM

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Putting aside the result of the game, shouldn't today be the deadline for the latest bid to buy the club?
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post Apr 29 2023, 07:03 PM

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Glazers failed to inflate the price for the club. The highest bid is just over 5B pound. And that is from the Qatari's.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/new...-qatar-29790556
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post Apr 30 2023, 12:13 PM

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More insight regarding the takeover bids.

According to this, even with minority investment, the Glazers will not be in power anymore.

But like most in here, I prefer the Qatari's to takeover instead of ENEOS group.
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post Apr 30 2023, 11:07 PM

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Very nice result. We are so tumpul in front. So many chances but only 1 goal. But at least today we got 3 points and clean sheet.

Back to takeover bid topic.

Currently some side wanna push the narrative that the Qatari's bid value is inclusive of the redevelopment pledge.

This make it seems like Sir Jim's bid have more value compared to the Qatari's bid.

But the Qatari's said that the bid doesn't include the redevelopment fund pledge.

The English media really keen on Sir Jim instead of Qatari's it seems.

I am actually not sure what's the point of this narrative that is being pushed.

Anyone else have any opinion/explanation?


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post May 1 2023, 01:43 AM

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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Apr 30 2023, 11:54 PM)
Redevelopment and wipe debt got nothing benefit glazers. Now is 4b for 50% stake vs 5.5b for 100%. Valuation on share big difference.

Looks like our top 4 threat is from pool
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That is what the current narrative looks like. However, if INEOS put the valuation of the club at 4B, to buy 50% they will only pay 2B for it.

And that is only for the price of the club. Not including debt and redevelopment.

The Glazers owned 69% of the total shares. From the 50% how much of the shares are going to be from the the Glazers shares?

Could it be all 50% from the Glazers? In which case, the Glazers will no longer have voting power. And this is a bit of a good thing that the Glazers are no longer in control. And the most logical choice if someone choose to spend 2B to buy 50% of the club.

Or it could be only 20% from the Glazers and the rest is from the other shares? In which, the Glazers still hold the power. This is a bit illogical since who in the right mind is willing to spend 2B to get 50% of the club without the power to make decision.

And then after all that, the buyer would have to fork out at least another 1B to fix the issues that the club is facing. This includes debt and redevelopment.

Will INEOS group do that? Or they just want ownership and control without spending more money.

So this doesn't really looks like a straight cut and clear scenario so far.

This post has been edited by even_steven: May 1 2023, 01:44 AM

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