try drive both, check both NVH.

if space not an issue to you. i personally will go for the cx30..

This one I agree with you. I just went for a run to think about it, i think my choice would be Toyota, simply because of its reliability and peace of mind that it will last a long time, since I don't change cars often and also I am a woman, if i could avoid going to a mechanic apart from annual maintenance, that would be great!

What's NVH?

What is your reasoning?

This post has been edited by miyakochan89: Mar 16 2023, 06:16 PM

what is my reasoning?

if i want space, i go for tcc.
if i dont mind narrow space, i go for cx30.

i dont know how to explain this reason

The CX-30 would give you more driving pleasure as compared to a Cross.
However that comes as a sacrifice of space the -30 has a tighter interior than a Cross.
If you can afford it, buy both.

if you want both, get a CX-8 or CX-9 or wait for CX-50 or CX-60

Dude, you are buying first car? NVH acronym is quite common across car ownership. Test drive each different car and feel with your own senses, if want go into details measure the sound decimal and vibration in car using your phone or special device.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noise,_vibrat...,_and_harshness

https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/engine...n-and-harshness

This post has been edited by littlefire: Mar 17 2023, 01:55 PM

Yes I’m buying my first car.
Cause I never needed to get one before.

Dude, not to say bad. But do you got any knowledge in driving or maintaining 1 car before? For this kind of vehicle you need to have some at least basic car technical knowledge, if totally none you will be in a lot of trouble identifying issues and also being chop/took advantage by workshop or sales office. Mazda is not exactly entry level car for beginners, if your totally zero in car knowledge is better to get something easier or common to take care like Toyota. Unless willing to learn the 'expensive' way, got someone (trusted mechanic) to help in case of anything then go for it.

This post has been edited by littlefire: Mar 17 2023, 02:14 PM

Please don’t put yourself on a high horse. And yes I have been maintaining my current car very well that even the mechanic told me that it would be such a waste if I sell it away. Thank you very much.

and that's why your initial choice is a Toyota, no?
if no knowledge, it is ok. no issue in that. no one wins anything having car knowledge, btw.

now, in regards to Mazda, i think the most glaring "issue" here is Bermaz and Mazda Japan think the ATF (just in case, since you don't know what's NVH, ATF = Automatic transmission fluid) is lifetime fluid. meaning to say, there is no need for an oil change on the transmission.
changing ATF WILL void your warranty.

do you believe in that?
are you knowledgeable enough to make a decision whether to believe in that or not?

and to add in my personal opinion, and with experiences test driven latest Mazda 3 , Mazda CX5 and slightly older 1 facelift ago ND1 MX5 - Mazda power train, BOTH engine and transmission, are slightly underpowered. the transmission logic isn't very intelligent either for power applications, it is really geared and programmed more towards fuel economy (since it is already having disadvantage of being traditional NA + planetary gears, not advanced enough to BMW/ZF8 speed)
if you want power, you'll need to work through it and doing so, may further stress both the engine and transmission.

this is applicable to all 3 cars, and yes even the Mazda MX5 - The MX5 is a 3 pedal manual 6 speed and you determine its power or fuel economy.
so logic wise, obviously the MX5 is much better cuz i determine the logic. can't say the same for the Mazda 3 and CX5 until you use the pedal shift and have some patience on shifts (again, it isn't a ZF or a sportier Aisin 6 speed on the 86 BRZ platform)

CX30 is a nice car but the height of 1.54m bothers me a lot due to ingress/egress issue.

My friend 186cm and this car just nice for him lol
Of course the front seat have to move backwards more

Saw this car side by side, cz parking besides my car. The things that i dislike are the huge plastic trim. Best practices iiho are the facelifted last gen HRV where they paint it metallic black for the parts

Same.. i believe down the years will the plastic oxidized and become grey.

What I plan to do is to buy the Machine grey variant and then have those massive claddings sprayed in gloss black (cost approx $2K), the dealer can settle it prior to delivery.

i saw one modded cx30 with the plastic cladding painted grey/gunmetal gloss..so niceeeeee lowered a bit sumore with wide tyre and rims..

I too hate the plastic trim done my most manufacturers. We are hot country and that make it faded asap. Had my idea to copy HRV metallic black paint for x70 plastic trim.

One good example are the black plastic claddings on the RM-series Honda CRV, those faded really badly until they turned grey.

copy paste from fb, he paint the plastic trim, looks nice