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BravoZeroTwo
post Mar 10 2023, 04:45 PM

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RAV 4 is C segment proper.
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post Mar 10 2023, 05:14 PM

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QUOTE(BravoZeroTwo @ Mar 10 2023, 04:45 PM)
RAV 4 is C segment proper.
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Looks like UMWT axed this (not offered from Toyota Malaysia website)
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post Mar 10 2023, 05:16 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Mar 10 2023, 06:14 PM)
Looks like UMWT axed this (not offered from Toyota Malaysia website)
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Big blunder should have CKD this model.
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post Mar 10 2023, 05:20 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Mar 10 2023, 05:14 PM)
Looks like UMWT axed this (not offered from Toyota Malaysia website)
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too expensive to be competitive. RAV4 is dropped from all SEA markets (except SG) iinm. Basically for our region and other developing markets, Cross would be the replacement for RAV4. Though in other first world markets like Europe and US the Cross is offered alongside with the RAV4 as well, however their Cross is spec'ed much better than us (latest hybrid system, electronic parking brake, full digital speedo, double wishbone rear suspension etc)

European Cross



Sad Malayian / SEA market Cross


the difference is obvious

What I can say for the Cross is this (having drove the Hybrid variant). for its price, its almost a no brainer if you are looking for practicality, comfort, fuel efficiency and some decent handling. Power? Look elsewhere.

QUOTE(BravoZeroTwo @ Mar 10 2023, 05:16 PM)
Big blunder should have CKD this model.
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no chance at all when its not even made in Thailand

This post has been edited by ZeneticX: Mar 10 2023, 05:45 PM
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Mar 10 2023, 03:27 PM)
agree and further emphasis on having an open mind > in a very competitive and ever changing automotive landscape today, what we knew 5 years ago, or even 1 year ago, may not be applicable today.
example: Proton today vs Proton pre Geely? post Geely?
Toyota reliability?
Mitsubishi relevance?

etc.

and imho most conti interiors are, while "snug" (lol) or "small", they aren't claustrophobic at the least. the outer huge ass shell also should be a decent indication.

Mazda cars are small, outside and inside, that much is obvious lol.
but still, despite know this, i too am surprised how the CX5 is based on Mazda 6, and Mazda 6 is Civic size. and having an open mind, i get to learn about it laugh.gif
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How do I know if a car is small? Me or my wife knock our head while egress or ingress the car.

I knock my head while leaning out of the window to take parking ticket for mazda 6

My wife knock her hear when getting into hrv and mazda 6 (both reat seats)

My friend wife and mother in law knock their head while getting into mazda3.

These are the few cars that we knock our heads on. Haha

QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Mar 10 2023, 03:27 PM)
but the competition also bigger wo, how? lol
i'd still go back to not thinking about space la.
look at their weight, look at their power, then look at gearing.
what i'm trying to say, Corolla cross is fairly underpowered being 1.8 unless you get the hybrid which have battery assist (but then again, lol added weight)

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Sounds like altis and civic again. Size and power, civic wins.
Other things comparable. Although the main put off in the altis for me, is the lumbar support.
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post Mar 11 2023, 01:11 AM

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QUOTE(Aaron212 @ Mar 9 2023, 02:37 PM)
Malaysians still prefer space over all

Fuel economy also
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Yes, those family uncles and familymen.

Car enthusiasts and car guys do not give a crap about space and FC.
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post Mar 11 2023, 01:31 PM

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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Mar 10 2023, 05:20 PM)
too expensive to be competitive. RAV4 is dropped from all SEA markets (except SG) iinm. Basically for our region and other developing markets, Cross would be the replacement for RAV4. Though in other first world markets like Europe and US the Cross is offered alongside with the RAV4 as well, however their Cross is spec'ed much better than us (latest hybrid system, electronic parking brake, full digital speedo, double wishbone rear suspension etc)

European Cross

Sad Malayian / SEA market Cross


the difference is obvious

What I can say for the Cross is this (having drove the Hybrid variant). for its price, its almost a no brainer if you are looking for practicality, comfort, fuel efficiency and some decent handling. Power? Look elsewhere.
no chance at all when its not even made in Thailand
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I drove the Hybrid one, it's super comfortable as well. I know my peer keeps telling me about power, horsepower that it sucks and all. But then how many times do you actually drive up to genting? And I'm not a racer even when i drive long distance, i just want to cruise nicely and be comfortable! And mostly the car is going to be travelling around the cities.

Also on top of that, my peer forgets that i am a woman, i really don't care about the horsepower unless it's severely underpowered. But based what I tested, the car seems quite responsive and powerful enough....

Sad on the older technology though. sad.gif But oh well, it's Toyota. As long as I care for it properly, I don't think i need to visit the mechanics that often?

QUOTE(tctham @ Mar 10 2023, 07:19 PM)
How do I know if a car is small? Me or my wife knock our head while egress or ingress the car.

I knock my head while leaning out of the window to take parking ticket for mazda 6

My wife knock her hear when getting into hrv and mazda 6 (both reat seats)

My friend wife and mother in law knock their head while getting into mazda3.

These are the few cars that we knock our heads on. Haha
Sounds like altis and civic again. Size and power, civic wins.
Other things comparable. Although the main put off in the altis for me, is the lumbar support.
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OMG. I was thinking about Mazda CX-30 a lot since the prices are almost similar with Cross and I'm looking for something like that.
I am almost convinced about Mazda for its sexiness of course, but now that I think that about it, it's true. When I sat on my colleague's Mazda 3 car during lunchtime, all of us seems to always struggle with the space. it's really tight. And i did hit my head once or twice, and I am not even 160CM ffs.

This post has been edited by miyakochan89: Mar 11 2023, 01:31 PM
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QUOTE(tctham @ Mar 10 2023, 07:19 PM)
How do I know if a car is small? Me or my wife knock our head while egress or ingress the car.

I knock my head while leaning out of the window to take parking ticket for mazda 6

My wife knock her hear when getting into hrv and mazda 6 (both reat seats)

My friend wife and mother in law knock their head while getting into mazda3.

These are the few cars that we knock our heads on. Haha
Sounds like altis and civic again. Size and power, civic wins.
Other things comparable. Although the main put off in the altis for me, is the lumbar support.
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Lol I'm fairly surprised you still go Mazda 6 despite the ingress egress . Then again not like the Civic is any better.

I'm about 178cm but it wasn't an issue for me/wife because of my own car (much worse, lol) that we both gotten used to

QUOTE(miyakochan89 @ Mar 11 2023, 01:31 PM)
I know my peer keeps telling me about power, horsepower that it sucks and all. But then how many times do you actually drive up to genting?

OMG. I was thinking about Mazda CX-30 a lot since the prices are almost similar with Cross and I'm looking for something like that.
I am almost convinced about Mazda for its sexiness of course, but now that I think that about it, it's true.
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Actually, on the contrary, hybrids generally have more power and especially torque because of electrification. Electric is instant, combustion engines need to wait for explosions, RPM to build up, wait... Wait... Lol.
In case you didn't realize, the bleeding edge hyper cars are either electric or hybrids.

But they still lose out on traditional sports cars in longevity/durability/consistency in a race track.
Battery capacity,Weight and heat management is still a big hurdle electric needs to overcome before it can fully replace combustion engines. (Then there's synthetic fuels)

Keep an open mind and go try out the CX30 Then

From my current understanding now after this thread,
The CX30 is like Mazda pantang 4 and use 30 lol
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QUOTE(littlefire @ Mar 10 2023, 10:13 AM)
Subaru Xv eyesight - Quietly passing all on the side off the road, bad weather no need worry much (AWD), Eyesight ACC system, space (better than CX30), safety features & reliability ratings still top the range.. yawn.gif chao first..
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Just bought the last CBU CX30 AWD Ignite edition last wk to replace subaru xv for the wife. Chose AWD as I can’t get over the feeling of AWD of Subaru. Thought it felt about the same, i still prefer subaru drive & torque though. Even considering buying the newest xv as I love the AWD drive so much but the interior was too simple as per subaru standard. If they improved it, would’ve been a dealbreaker.

Still bought CX30 cbu though despite knowing ckd coming as ckd version doesn’t come with same trim & features as per cbu japan.
Likes about CX30: looks gorgeous esp the backside, interior is super comfy, luxurious & insulated, complete advance safety feature for current standard, hud display on windscreen, beautiful large central and dash ? oled display, great sound system, stable n smooth enjoyable drive with soft suspension.
Dislikes : higher rev / rpm at low gear ( can we tune the ratio?) electronics not consistent, hold on stop doesn’t always work, fuel consumption not great ( too early to say though ), lane assist radars useless in heavy rain, as well as camera system.

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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Mar 10 2023, 05:20 PM)
too expensive to be competitive. RAV4 is dropped from all SEA markets (except SG) iinm. Basically for our region and other developing markets, Cross would be the replacement for RAV4. Though in other first world markets like Europe and US the Cross is offered alongside with the RAV4 as well, however their Cross is spec'ed much better than us (latest hybrid system, electronic parking brake, full digital speedo, double wishbone rear suspension etc)

European Cross

Sad Malayian / SEA market Cross


the difference is obvious

What I can say for the Cross is this (having drove the Hybrid variant). for its price, its almost a no brainer if you are looking for practicality, comfort, fuel efficiency and some decent handling. Power? Look elsewhere.
no chance at all when its not even made in Thailand
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As long as Toyota under UMW here, dont expect best features on our market. That's too much difference in features for the Cross in our region vs abroad. Why we can't get digital speedometer and electric parking brake as minimum here.
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QUOTE(romuluz777 @ Mar 11 2023, 01:11 AM)
Yes, those family uncles and familymen.

Car enthusiasts and car guys do not give a crap about space and FC.
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Those China car give us more features, DCT, better NVH for our market. Hopefully other manufacturers take this and fight, so customer can take advantage. Last time under UMW, they keep supplying us car with 2 airbag and if need 6 need to pay more, thank goodness other rival start giving 6 as standard, now everyone put it as that
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QUOTE(tctham @ Mar 10 2023, 11:59 AM)
Chose mazda 6
2nd hand price too keras d, feel like buying a stock that kena goreng till high high. Sked buy liao suddenly price drop then i veli sad.
Accord 1.5: cvt and small turbo (for d seg) minus some marks, seats rather low too. But is still a very good all rounder car for that price. (I'm willing to top up, hence i chose another but this really not that bad)
Camry: good seats, good interior, na + 8spd (my preference, so add some marks) but that price hike. From 199k -> 219k in 12 mths. Sitting above mazda 6 d. Another deal breaker is that headunit. Ppl say open waze/maps + spotify confirm will hang. Even normal usage also sluggish d. And the show unit i was looking at, had out of focus HUD.

P/s: what influenced my choice?
1. I'm replacing my wife's aging car. The current car has barely any safety features. 1 airbag, no abs. So i wanna have some form of ADAS..
2. A large cruiser so can fetch my family comfortably and can go on highways (house only have b segments)
3. Both of us is 173cm tall so thigh support and leg room need extra focus also.

So while accord and camry yield a much happier space, it's more of a passenger car and my wife will likely drive the car alone more frequently than I use it to ferry my mom. So i dowan to find a car that sacrifices the driver too much. Example,imagine the prev gen camry, it's comfortable, but probably sleepy to drive. Haha
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No consider Arteon ? It’s quite the looker lol

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QUOTE(doczane @ Mar 11 2023, 08:36 PM)
Just bought the last CBU CX30 AWD Ignite edition last wk to replace subaru xv for the wife. Chose AWD as I can’t get over the feeling of AWD of Subaru. Thought it felt about the same, i still prefer subaru drive & torque though. Even considering buying the newest xv as I love the AWD drive so much but the interior was too simple as per subaru standard. If they improved it, would’ve been a dealbreaker.

Still bought CX30 cbu though despite knowing ckd coming as ckd version doesn’t come with same trim & features as per cbu japan.
Likes about CX30: looks gorgeous esp the backside, interior is super comfy, luxurious & insulated, complete advance safety feature for current standard, hud display on windscreen, beautiful large central and dash ? oled display, great sound system, stable n smooth enjoyable drive with soft suspension.
Dislikes : higher rev / rpm at low gear ( can we tune the ratio?) electronics not consistent, hold on stop doesn’t always work, fuel consumption not great ( too early to say though ), lane assist radars useless in heavy rain, as well as camera system.
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Hi there. What are your takes on the XV, or Subaru in general in terms of reliability and maintenance?

I hear some users say the after-sales services by Subaru were below par, with poor services and availability of spares. But how reliable is the XV? and how much damages for the routine maintenance of the XV?
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Mar 11 2023, 07:56 PM)
From my current understanding now after this thread,
The CX30 is like Mazda pantang 4 and use 30 lol
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These are two different cars, bro.

CX4 is CX4. CX30 is CX30. Lol!

CX4 is produced and sold exclusively in/for China only.
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QUOTE(IvanWong1989 @ Mar 12 2023, 07:28 PM)
No consider Arteon ? It’s quite the looker lol
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Wallet tak boleh. Mazda 6 already stretching it.
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QUOTE(tctham @ Mar 13 2023, 07:51 AM)
Wallet tak boleh. Mazda 6 already stretching it.
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Brand new? 2.0,2.2 or 2.5?
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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Mar 13 2023, 08:34 AM)
Brand new? 2.0,2.2 or 2.5?
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New 2.5
2.2 heard too many scary stories
2.0 a little empty. Would rather drive civic at that point.
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QUOTE(tctham @ Mar 13 2023, 08:50 AM)
New 2.5
2.2 heard too many scary stories
2.0 a little empty. Would rather drive civic at that point.
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yes. google mazda diesel blown head gasket, happening at all around the world. what is Bermaz's action? Detune to lower the torque of it and remove it from the line-up? as per Cx30 CKD losing out the diesel variant. luckily u don't take 2.2
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QUOTE(HeReLiSm @ Mar 12 2023, 11:02 PM)
Hi there. What are your takes on the XV, or Subaru in general in terms of reliability and maintenance?

I hear some users say the after-sales services by Subaru were below par, with poor services and availability of spares. But how reliable is the XV? and how much damages for the routine maintenance of the XV?
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I used subaru xv for 9 years but my mileage is only 60k becos of daily bike use n xv only for long distance. But I love it. Its spacious yet not too big on the outside, versatile on our malaysian road, powerful for it’s class, AWD drive & boxster engine is enjoyable & stable. Feels safe & reliable whether on or slight offroad eg beaches, riversides etc. The turning radius is impressive. Overall I love it & would’ve bought just the newer edition of it if it had better interior as I’m looking for a different feel. I even sold it at a good price.

Within that use, i had minimal issue. Noise / wind insulation not great. Aircond compressor problematic after 3 or 4 yrs only but was under warranty & replaced FOC. Otherwise nothing else. Service centre as I was in KB & Tganu which had no subaru sc, was subbed to Nissan/ Ford. No issue as most are routine scheduled maintenance. As long as you follow it obediently according to mileage / time based appt, you wouldn’t lose out anything. Otherwise nothing major. Highly recommended.
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QUOTE(HeReLiSm @ Mar 13 2023, 12:02 AM)
Hi there. What are your takes on the XV, or Subaru in general in terms of reliability and maintenance?

I hear some users say the after-sales services by Subaru were below par, with poor services and availability of spares. But how reliable is the XV? and how much damages for the routine maintenance of the XV?
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Rubbish claims regarding the availability of spares, i can assure you new, OEM, imitation (Yes, a lot of fake in market nowadays) & aftermarket (especially half-cut items) are a lot nowadays.

Regarding after-sales service if you did not mod and follow as per what recommend usually there is no issues, join Subaru XV group in FB (If possible join the close group) and get internal team member help and advice of which service center can provide better service. If one service center cannot solve your issue, you can go to other authorize center and do your service and claim if within the warranty period.

You can ask in the fb group, world wide forum or even SC regarding the latest Xv2 (also knew as GT edition) warranty claims & issues, i can assure you it is way lesser compare to the last generation and overall improved a lot thus why in US alone the reliability status in crossover category leading the pack & even beat CX30. The only good reliability status in Mazda now is the old CX-5, the rest with the new CX body/chassis all went down and would be better to wait another facelift to go back up again.

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