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post Mar 10 2023, 12:02 AM

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QUOTE(miyakochan89 @ Mar 9 2023, 10:08 PM)
yeah that's true. I'm in the market for Segment C smaller sized SUV. Toyota Cross even with its older tech, I still prefer it because of its reliability. LOL!
Though CX-30 is sexy of course. But can't deal with the small space at the back, and tiny boot space. sad.gif
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Then time to go cx5 if you really like mazda. Else, try and see other choices. Seriously if you looking for suv, you can be spoilt with choices (as long as you not constrained by very specific criteria like must be japan/conti, must not be cvt / dct, must be / not turbo, must be cheapest within segment.

Try with an open mind, check out all available choices, then evaluate which ticks the most boxes and what's the compromise.

I was hunting for a d segment sedan and god the choices are scarce.
Tried 2018 accord 2.4, 2023 accord 1.5, 2023 camry 2 4, 2014 e250, 2023 mazda 6, 2014 lexus es250, 2020 hyundai sonata, 2019 kia optima, 2014 328i. Also tried 2022 altis, 2023 civic and 2022 hyundai elantra.

I think i hunt for almost half a year.

QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Mar 9 2023, 10:28 PM)
How the F
My sis owns a CX5 and it's about HRV size driver passenger and rear passenger.

Mazda 6 being d segment can't be that small?!
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I think it's safe to assume mazda interior is a segment smaller than competitor. Imagine it as a conti interior.

Mazda 6 is only slightly larger than civic. With camry, you got some room to shuffle around, with accord you can sit like a boss, even cross your legs without touching the front seat. Despite them being all d segment, they all feel different.

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post Mar 10 2023, 02:11 AM

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When you buy mazda, you don’t think about space first…

But things might change when they bring in CX50 to CX90. Those are big.
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post Mar 10 2023, 07:42 AM

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QUOTE(tctham @ Mar 10 2023, 12:02 AM)
Then time to go cx5 if you really like mazda. Else, try and see other choices. Seriously if you looking for suv, you can be spoilt with choices (as long as you not constrained by very specific criteria like must be japan/conti, must not be cvt / dct, must be / not turbo, must be cheapest within segment.

Try with an open mind, check out all available choices, then evaluate which ticks the most boxes and what's the compromise.

I was hunting for a d segment sedan and god the choices are scarce.
Tried 2018 accord 2.4,  2023 accord 1.5, 2023 camry 2 4, 2014 e250, 2023 mazda 6, 2014 lexus es250, 2020 hyundai sonata, 2019 kia optima, 2014 328i. Also tried 2022 altis, 2023 civic and  2022 hyundai elantra.

I think i hunt for almost half a year.
I think it's safe to assume mazda interior is a segment smaller than competitor. Imagine it as a conti interior.

Mazda 6 is only slightly larger than civic. With camry, you got some room to shuffle around, with accord you can sit like a boss, even cross your legs without touching the front seat. Despite them being all d segment, they all feel different.
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CX5 is too big for me. Also I feel that unless i go for the higher specs at 2.5litre and above, it will be underpowered? Cross is actually the perfect size, not too small and not too big, that’s why I see mostly women drivers.
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post Mar 10 2023, 07:59 AM

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QUOTE(miyakochan89 @ Mar 9 2023, 08:47 PM)
Why not Toyota? Even more space.
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Same category tier and segment Honda is leading in space

In all competed segments and tier
Maybe exception in the bread loaf category (huge MPV like Alphard Vellfire etc)
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post Mar 10 2023, 08:03 AM

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The rear is ugly to me

Prefer CX3 rear design
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post Mar 10 2023, 08:13 AM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Mar 10 2023, 07:59 AM)
Same category tier and segment Honda is leading in space

In all competed segments and tier
Maybe exception in the bread loaf category (huge MPV like Alphard Vellfire etc)
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Erm, Honda HRV is smaller than Cross.
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post Mar 10 2023, 08:22 AM

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QUOTE(miyakochan89 @ Mar 10 2023, 08:13 AM)
Erm, Honda HRV is smaller than Cross.
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You also said c segment SUV
You know Honda's C is CRV right? Lol
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post Mar 10 2023, 08:29 AM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Mar 10 2023, 08:22 AM)
You also said c segment SUV
You know Honda's C is CRV right? Lol
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Ok my bad but I keep comparing HRV and Cross cause they are the most obvious comparison between the 2.
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post Mar 10 2023, 08:36 AM

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QUOTE(tctham @ Mar 10 2023, 12:02 AM)
Then time to go cx5 if you really like mazda. Else, try and see other choices. Seriously if you looking for suv, you can be spoilt with choices (as long as you not constrained by very specific criteria like must be japan/conti, must not be cvt / dct, must be / not turbo, must be cheapest within segment.

Try with an open mind, check out all available choices, then evaluate which ticks the most boxes and what's the compromise.

I was hunting for a d segment sedan and god the choices are scarce.
Tried 2018 accord 2.4,  2023 accord 1.5, 2023 camry 2 4, 2014 e250, 2023 mazda 6, 2014 lexus es250, 2020 hyundai sonata, 2019 kia optima, 2014 328i. Also tried 2022 altis, 2023 civic and  2022 hyundai elantra.

I think i hunt for almost half a year.
I think it's safe to assume mazda interior is a segment smaller than competitor. Imagine it as a conti interior.

Mazda 6 is only slightly larger than civic. With camry, you got some room to shuffle around, with accord you can sit like a boss, even cross your legs without touching the front seat. Despite them being all d segment, they all feel different.
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U end up choosing which d segment? If u really particular about NVH, dont take Accord even with 2.4. Wind and roof sounds similar to Perodua cars. Iiwu, VW Passat Highline, W212 E250 Facelift or wildcard F10 528, all used. Price wise drop a lot for all model.
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QUOTE(miyakochan89 @ Mar 10 2023, 07:42 AM)
CX5 is too big for me. Also I feel that unless i go for the higher specs at 2.5litre and above, it will be underpowered? Cross is actually the perfect size, not too small and not too big, that’s why I see mostly women drivers.
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Based on several time drive CX5 2.0Na, it will feel underpower at Karak highway, vs my x70 ckd. Boot size CX5 also not really big, rear passenger slightly cramped feeling for long distance drive, vs my Accord for rear. Cross, it just too much plastic interior for me, and outdated leg parking brake. Exterior maybe ok and refreshing, interior for Cross just mehh
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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Mar 10 2023, 08:40 AM)
Based on several time drive CX5 2.0Na, it will feel underpower at Karak highway, vs my x70 ckd. Boot size CX5 also not really big, rear passenger slightly cramped feeling for long distance drive, vs my Accord for rear. Cross, it just too much plastic interior for me, and outdated leg parking brake. Exterior maybe ok and refreshing, interior for Cross just mehh
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Looking at it now, my choice is still going to be cross cause it fits all my criteria. I don’t really want a Honda car cause I have been driving one since forever and Toyota is really more comfortable. This Mazda CX-30 is really sexy but the back seats are really small. When I want to bring my parents around they will definitely not be comfortable…. If I ever got Mazda it would only be for its sexy design. Hahah!
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Subaru Xv eyesight - Quietly passing all on the side off the road, bad weather no need worry much (AWD), Eyesight ACC system, space (better than CX30), safety features & reliability ratings still top the range.. yawn.gif chao first..
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QUOTE(miyakochan89 @ Mar 10 2023, 09:53 AM)
Looking at it now, my choice is still going to be cross cause it fits all my criteria. I don’t really want a Honda car cause I have been driving one since forever and Toyota is really more comfortable. This Mazda CX-30 is really sexy but the back seats are really small. When I want to bring my parents around they will definitely not be comfortable…. If I ever got Mazda it would only be for its sexy design. Hahah!
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I find that the B pillar and the rest seats make it difficult to ingress and egress foot will always hit the B pillar fue to narrow space. Also the dashboard design in such a way it protrude towards our knees if not care will easily hit the protruding part of the dashboard. Because of this strange design it also makes opening of the glove compartment becomes a tight spot.
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post Mar 10 2023, 11:59 AM

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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Mar 10 2023, 08:36 AM)
U end up choosing which d segment? If u really particular about NVH, dont take Accord even with 2.4. Wind and roof sounds similar to Perodua cars. Iiwu, VW Passat Highline, W212 E250 Facelift or wildcard F10 528, all used. Price wise drop a lot for all model.
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Chose mazda 6
2nd hand price too keras d, feel like buying a stock that kena goreng till high high. Sked buy liao suddenly price drop then i veli sad.
Accord 1.5: cvt and small turbo (for d seg) minus some marks, seats rather low too. But is still a very good all rounder car for that price. (I'm willing to top up, hence i chose another but this really not that bad)
Camry: good seats, good interior, na + 8spd (my preference, so add some marks) but that price hike. From 199k -> 219k in 12 mths. Sitting above mazda 6 d. Another deal breaker is that headunit. Ppl say open waze/maps + spotify confirm will hang. Even normal usage also sluggish d. And the show unit i was looking at, had out of focus HUD.

P/s: what influenced my choice?
1. I'm replacing my wife's aging car. The current car has barely any safety features. 1 airbag, no abs. So i wanna have some form of ADAS..
2. A large cruiser so can fetch my family comfortably and can go on highways (house only have b segments)
3. Both of us is 173cm tall so thigh support and leg room need extra focus also.

So while accord and camry yield a much happier space, it's more of a passenger car and my wife will likely drive the car alone more frequently than I use it to ferry my mom. So i dowan to find a car that sacrifices the driver too much. Example,imagine the prev gen camry, it's comfortable, but probably sleepy to drive. Haha

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QUOTE(tctham @ Mar 10 2023, 11:59 AM)
Chose mazda 6
2nd hand price too keras d, feel like buying a stock that kena goreng till high high. Sked buy liao suddenly price drop then i veli sad.
Accord 1.5: cvt and small turbo (for d seg) minus some marks, seats rather low too. But is still a very good all rounder car for that price. (I'm willing to top up, hence i chose another but this really not that bad)
Camry: good seats, good interior, na + 8spd (my preference, so add some marks) but that price hike. From 199k -> 219k in 12 mths. Sitting above mazda 6 d. Another deal breaker is that headunit. Ppl say open waze/maps + spotify confirm will hang. Even normal usage also sluggish d. And the show unit i was looking at, had out of focus HUD.
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this model also suffers from poor NVH, part and finishing (depending on luck?), and annoying cvt. Mazda 6 2.5 straight, roadtax not too much, the long driving will feel less tiring. Agreed on camry, too expansive, better choose Conti then
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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Mar 10 2023, 12:27 PM)
this model also suffers from poor NVH, part and finishing (depending on luck?), and annoying cvt. Mazda 6 2.5 straight, roadtax not too much, the long driving will feel less tiring. Agreed on camry, too expansive, better choose Conti then
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Yea lo. Read review the overall accord is jack of all trades, master of space. It really wins in terms of space only. Jz feel, already paying almost 200k, why not consider mazda 6. See can live with the lack of space or not lo. Interior wise definitely more premium than accord / camry, although a little dated. The analog speedometer is actually a plus for me though(i love analog stuff)
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QUOTE(tctham @ Mar 10 2023, 01:42 PM)
Yea lo. Read review the overall accord is jack of all trades, master of space. It really wins in terms of space only. Jz feel, already paying almost 200k, why not consider mazda 6. See can live with the lack of space or not lo. Interior wise definitely more premium than accord / camry, although a little dated. The analog speedometer is actually a plus for me though(i love analog stuff)
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BTW, Camry is a rebadge downgrade of ES250. If talk about electronic control or features to play with Camry now is the top range, it is more toward the rear passenger comfort and not driver car.

If prefer to drive - Mazda 6
If prefer to sit behind and enjoy - Toyota Camry
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post Mar 10 2023, 03:24 PM

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QUOTE(littlefire @ Mar 10 2023, 02:44 PM)
BTW, Camry is a rebadge downgrade of ES250. If talk about electronic control or features to play with Camry now is the top range, it is more toward the rear passenger comfort and not driver car.

If prefer to drive - Mazda 6
If prefer to sit behind and enjoy - Toyota Camry
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Yeap agreed. Very boss like sitting behind (except the space, space honda almost always wins)

But that 20k hike in 12 mths. Aikz.. and that out of focus HUD, which the sales keep tell me, "no problem wan. You start driving then it looks alright d." Sked later i get lemon and sc keep tell me no issues. Oh and that sluggish head unit.

But the soft leather interior, and the boss control behind, really very tempting.
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QUOTE(tctham @ Mar 10 2023, 12:02 AM)
Try with an open mind, check out all available choices, then evaluate which ticks the most boxes and what's the compromise.

Imagine it as a conti interior.

Mazda 6 is only slightly larger than civic.
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agree and further emphasis on having an open mind > in a very competitive and ever changing automotive landscape today, what we knew 5 years ago, or even 1 year ago, may not be applicable today.
example: Proton today vs Proton pre Geely? post Geely?
Toyota reliability?
Mitsubishi relevance?

etc.

and imho most conti interiors are, while "snug" (lol) or "small", they aren't claustrophobic at the least. the outer huge ass shell also should be a decent indication.

Mazda cars are small, outside and inside, that much is obvious lol.
but still, despite know this, i too am surprised how the CX5 is based on Mazda 6, and Mazda 6 is Civic size. and having an open mind, i get to learn about it laugh.gif

QUOTE(Leo the Lion @ Mar 10 2023, 02:11 AM)
When you buy mazda, you don’t think about space first…

But things might change when they bring in CX50 to CX90. Those are big.
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but the competition also bigger wo, how? lol
i'd still go back to not thinking about space la.

QUOTE(miyakochan89 @ Mar 10 2023, 07:42 AM)
CX5 is too big for me. Also I feel that unless i go for the higher specs at 2.5litre and above, it will be underpowered? Cross is actually the perfect size, not too small and not too big, that’s why I see mostly women drivers.
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look at their weight, look at their power, then look at gearing.
what i'm trying to say, Corolla cross is fairly underpowered being 1.8 unless you get the hybrid which have battery assist (but then again, lol added weight)

heck, you could just use back the common comparison vs older HRV 1.8, it was OK OK. (hence your perception cross power is ok)
but HRV was much lighter (and smaller) than corolla Cross.
by comparison, Corolla cross have less power or more under powered than HRV.
and today, HRV gets either 1.5Turbo or hybrid, both far surpasses Corolla cross power. laugh.gif

QUOTE(miyakochan89 @ Mar 10 2023, 08:29 AM)
Ok my bad but I keep comparing HRV and Cross cause they are the most obvious comparison between the 2.
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won't blame you cuz Toyota is trying to tap that "in between" B and C market
they are uncontested.
their larger SUV is Harrier and smaller is the Rush and bigger is Fortuner (or Harrier) la

though, strangely, yes Corolla Cross is officially classified as C
both Harrier and Fortuner as D, fortuner being a dual purpose off roader/pickup object or people mover, while Harrier pushing towards luxury before pushing upwards to Lexus.

QUOTE(BravoZeroTwo @ Mar 10 2023, 10:33 AM)
I find that the B pillar and the rest seats make it difficult to ingress and egress foot will always hit the B pillar fue to narrow space. Also the dashboard design in such a way it protrude towards our knees if not care will easily hit the protruding part of the dashboard. Because of this strange design it also makes opening of the glove compartment becomes a tight spot.
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which car?

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Mar 10 2023, 04:27 PM)
agree and further emphasis on having an open mind > in a very competitive and ever changing automotive landscape today, what we knew 5 years ago, or even 1 year ago, may not be applicable today.
example: Proton today vs Proton pre Geely? post Geely?
Toyota reliability?
Mitsubishi relevance?

etc.

and imho most conti interiors are, while "snug" (lol) or "small", they aren't claustrophobic at the least. the outer huge ass shell also should be a decent indication.

Mazda cars are small, outside and inside, that much is obvious lol.
but still, despite know this, i too am surprised how the CX5 is based on Mazda 6, and Mazda 6 is Civic size. and having an open mind, i get to learn about it laugh.gif
but the competition also bigger wo, how? lol
i'd still go back to not thinking about space la.
look at their weight, look at their power, then look at gearing.
what i'm trying to say, Corolla cross is fairly underpowered being 1.8 unless you get the hybrid which have battery assist (but then again, lol added weight)

heck, you could just use back the common comparison vs older HRV 1.8, it was OK OK. (hence your perception cross power is ok)
but HRV was much lighter (and smaller) than corolla Cross.
by comparison, Corolla cross have less power or more under powered than HRV.
and today, HRV gets either 1.5Turbo or hybrid, both far surpasses Corolla cross power. laugh.gif
won't blame you cuz Toyota is trying to tap that "in between" B and C market
they are uncontested.
their larger SUV is Harrier and smaller is the Rush and bigger is Fortuner (or Harrier) la

though, strangely, yes Corolla Cross is officially classified as C
both Harrier and Fortuner as D, fortuner being a dual purpose off roader/pickup object or people mover, while Harrier pushing towards luxury before pushing upwards to Lexus.
which car?
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Cross, sir.

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