Sony Ericsson should consider using high quality optics like Carl Zeiss.

One thing major advantage of having good optics/lense is colour reproduction and sharpness.

This is very apprarent as I've experienced in phones such as the N73 ME, N93 and testing with N95.

Most obvious is the absence of purple-fringing/abberations in the N93 (Carl Zeiss optics) while the problem happens a lot on the K800i/K810i due to poor lense.

indeed. but don't spoil the hope of people here. some people like to dream, so let them be.

K850i's design is funky and cool.

The K800i and K810i has pretty boring/standard designs.

This post has been edited by shockk: Oct 15 2007, 11:30 PM

Looks like SE is still stubborn and sticking to their stupid high compression algorithm for photos, which is the main downfall of the K800i/K810i.

As an example, this is very apparent when the file size of the original photograph is much smaller than it should be.
In the K800i/K810i, photos never go above 1MB, or even near it. Whereas phones like N73/N93/903SH all have photo files going above 1MB (sometimes even up to 1.4/1.5MB) normally.

In conclusion, high compression = smaller file size = less detail = bad photo quality.

This post has been edited by shockk: Oct 16 2007, 01:38 AM

You're right. That is one advantage (or disadvantage) of SE. But that only relates to colour accuracy.

And colour accuracy is nowhere as important as photographic detail which SE lacks, and this is a major disadvantage SE has.

LOL.

i also share the same feeling with sanook. but not angry with other people's opinion. just SE, because they can do something about it and refuse to do so. of course, they have to think about their Cybershot digicam line too.

Some people say they can reduce the compression of photos via cam mod.
However, this is seemingly a hardware thing and it's not so easy to change the settings via software, IMHO.

Until those modded firmware for K850i comes out, I'd say that the current hope for K850i is not really promising.

It's quite sad that a phone with high expectations such as the K850i needs to rely on 3rd party modifications to be good right?

Maybe those who are planning to buy this phone can start a petition to SE to ask them to quickly release a firmware that will significantly improve the camera quality. (if it is possible with the hardware, that is).

I think green looks better.

Some more it suits the Sony Ericsson logo/them.

Exactly what i'm thinkin too.

Actually, I don't think they have to.
Most of their buyers are those that don't read forums to know about the real photo quality.
A lot will be blinded by the 5MP CyberShot and Xenon flash.

Aiyo. Please.. not the digicam VS phone comparison again.

It is proven that PHONES can take good pics rivalling digicams such as the Imobile 902.

Hehe. Nowadays, can get even a brand new DSLR for about RM2k such as the Canon 350D.
But still I prefer phones.

Even though we can't expect much from phones like N95/K850i, it can still fit in our pocket well.

you cannot compare this to N95.

they belong to different category, friend.
one is mainstream phone, the other is high-end smartphone.

This post has been edited by shockk: Oct 18 2007, 02:40 PM

Please read back his question.
He was referring to 'other' specifications.

lol. i remember since last year u been telling me that.

well, you are still right as of now.

camera = imobile 902 (multi-point-in-frame Auto-Focus - trashes the competition. )
phone + camera = k850i (due to advanced Sony Ericsson proprietary UI. )

same here man. for the moment, we can completely ignore the K850i.

but i'll still keep in touch with this thread to check for any noticeable improvements in the firmware.

sounds like a serious problem, harmeet15.

perhaps you can report to Sony Ericsson about it? then ask them to rush out a firmware to fix this problem.