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 Atf oil change for Mazda6, All mazda owner, please advice

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littlefire
post Mar 20 2023, 11:59 AM

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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Mar 20 2023, 11:54 AM)
Subaru owner also had plenty of cvt issues? What is the recommended from Subaru for cvt filter? Iinm mostly manufacturers not put it in for replacement at a shorter intervals and car owners just follow it. Or the CVT gb will getting issues once hit some high mileage?
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Depending on ownership and driving behavior, if met the correct mechanic after 5th year or 100k warranty will recommend to change the CVT Strainer/Filter. Even the Subaru specialist SBR Technic recommend owners to change it early by 4th year 80k. If you change this early usually no issues, some of the owners already way over 200~300k with every 30~40k CVT oil change.

From my understanding official SC did not list this CVT strainer/filter to change during the 5 year or 100k service interval, mostly only by owner request after warranty finish. I did my change at 110k but from outside mechanic, nowadays got OEM Thailand/Taiwan CVT filter/strainer to choose in market.

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post Mar 28 2023, 08:58 AM

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I was informed that for Mazda cars, the transmission oil pan is sealed with silicone instead of gasket.

The OEM transmission filter will come with gasket but genuine one does not.
Will the outside typical workshop apply new layer of silicone for installing genuine filter?
I asked some but they claim not needed.

I don't prefer OEM filter but it comes with gasket.
Anyone has experience?
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post Mar 28 2023, 09:47 AM

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QUOTE(Snoy @ Mar 28 2023, 08:58 AM)
I was informed that for Mazda cars, the transmission oil pan is sealed with silicone instead of gasket.

The OEM transmission filter will come with gasket but genuine one does not.
Will the outside typical workshop apply new layer of silicone for installing genuine filter?
I asked some but they claim not needed.

I don't prefer OEM filter but it comes with gasket.
Anyone has experience?
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Specialist will seal it back with the silicone. The original silicone will be a different colour than the aftermarket ones.
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post Mar 28 2023, 09:50 AM

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There is no such thing as lifetime oil.

If they say lifetime or 5 years it’s basically lifetime of the car

Similar to ford power shift dry clutch lifetime also but end up gearbox koyak Rabak

I change my dct oil every 60k km regardless what people say



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QUOTE(Snoy @ Mar 19 2023, 09:39 AM)
What is the estimated cost of replacing atf and filter outside?
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I usually only change the ATF but not the filter because it's a lot of work and SC might detect the changes. For ATF changes only it'll usually cost like 200-300.
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post Mar 28 2023, 10:10 AM

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QUOTE(Roadwarrior1337 @ Mar 28 2023, 09:50 AM)
There is no such thing as lifetime oil.

If they say lifetime or 5 years it’s basically lifetime of the car

Similar to ford power shift dry clutch lifetime also but end up gearbox koyak Rabak

I change my dct oil every 60k km regardless what people say
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Mazda. ford, bmw zf, merz old model, Volvo old model, all advertised as a seal for life for ATF but all suffer from GB malfunction once hit high mileage. ZF even against bmw seal for life and ask to change the Atf per interval. Honda DCT dry clutch on hybrid, first dct oil change at 160k km, also got owner suffer from GB issue.

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post Apr 1 2023, 02:43 PM

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This is the Mazda ATF oil picture taken today after 98k mileage in 9 years.

The mechanic shouted WTF immediately after the oil flowing out.

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post Apr 1 2023, 04:49 PM

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QUOTE(Snoy @ Apr 1 2023, 02:43 PM)
This is the Mazda ATF oil picture taken today after 98k mileage in 9 years.

The mechanic shouted WTF immediately after the oil flowing out.

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That's why seal for life is scam by manufacturers. Oil have life.
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QUOTE(Snoy @ Apr 1 2023, 02:43 PM)
This is the Mazda ATF oil picture taken today after 98k mileage in 9 years.

The mechanic shouted WTF immediately after the oil flowing out.

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wadepak..luckily gearbox not jam. btw, why owner not change fast fast. I tot mazda warranty only 5 years. or owner still send to service centre and service centre not change until reach 100k km?

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QUOTE(DM52 @ Apr 2 2023, 08:31 AM)
wadepak..luckily gearbox not jam. btw, why owner not change fast fast. I tot mazda warranty only 5 years. or owner still send to service centre and service centre not change until reach 100k km?
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I’m the owner.
The latter is the reason. 100% service in Mazda SC.
No recommendations from the service schedule.
Anyway, I’m not alone.

Btw, no issue on gear shift earlier.
In fact, no noticeable difference before and after changing.

In oversea Mazda forum, many recommend changing ATF fluid at 60k miles which is about 96k km. In term of mileage, it’s not too late. However, considering the usage duration and Malaysia climate, better change earlier.

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QUOTE(DM52 @ Apr 2 2023, 08:31 AM)
wadepak..luckily gearbox not jam. btw, why owner not change fast fast. I tot mazda warranty only 5 years. or owner still send to service centre and service centre not change until reach 100k km?
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Mazda/Bermaz advertise their gb atf as seal for life. But capped the warranty to 100k km
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QUOTE(Snoy @ Apr 2 2023, 08:57 AM)
I’m the owner.
The latter is the reason. 100% service in Mazda SC.
No recommendations from the service schedule.
Anyway, I’m not alone.

Btw, no issue on gear shift earlier.
In fact, no noticeable difference before and after changing.

In oversea Mazda forum, many recommend changing ATF fluid at 60k miles which is about 96k km. In term of mileage, it’s not too late. However, considering the usage duration and Malaysia climate, better change earlier.
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Detected any anomaly after the ATF fluid change? Thinking of changing mine too, now at 95k km / 10yrs. Concern that GB might act up weird due to re-learning process etc.
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Tumpang ask, any idea how much it cost to change condenser for cx5? Was quoted rm880 for condenser itself and rm300 for labour, not yet include other aircond service cost, is the price reasonable?
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QUOTE(euphoriaa @ Apr 4 2023, 11:01 PM)
Detected any anomaly after the ATF fluid change? Thinking of changing mine too, now at 95k km / 10yrs. Concern that GB might act up weird due to re-learning process etc.
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Believe it will do better after change the atf. Or best to flushing using machine for the atf so that it will change all atf inside to new. If u left without changing the atf, once it k.o, it will be a permanent damage
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QUOTE(euphoriaa @ Apr 4 2023, 11:01 PM)
Detected any anomaly after the ATF fluid change? Thinking of changing mine too, now at 95k km / 10yrs. Concern that GB might act up weird due to re-learning process etc.
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4 days down the road, so far so good.
Btw, I was changing filter and atf fluid together.

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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Apr 2 2023, 03:57 PM)
Mazda/Bermaz advertise their gb atf as seal for life. But capped the warranty to 100k km
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I am surprised if they are not equipped with the skills of changing the ATF.

The way I see it is they like to harp on the ATF being sealed for life but they don't have the skills to change the fluid if the customer requesting for whatever reason.

I think they could earn some extra dough if they were to provide ATF fuild change, I am sure they will be up skill with the know how and proper procedure and sop to do so properly than outside pomen.

Eg like in proton they dont mind changing for you earlier if requested for as long you paying for it. Usually they ask why are you doing this but eventually they still change it for you.

Also, does this lifetime fluid also applicable to manual mazda?

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post Apr 5 2023, 11:16 AM

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QUOTE(minizian @ Apr 5 2023, 12:10 PM)
I am surprised if they are not equipped with the skills of changing the ATF.

The way I see it is they like to harp on the ATF being sealed for life but they don't have the skills to change the fluid if the customer requesting for whatever reason.

I think they could earn some extra dough if they were to provide ATF fuild change, I am sure they will be up skill with the know how and proper procedure and sop to do so properly than outside pomen.

Eg like in proton they dont mind changing for you earlier  if requested for as long you paying for it. Usually they ask why are you doing this but eventually they still change it for you.

Also, does this lifetime fluid also applicable to manual mazda?
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They can change the ATF oil for you but warranty void for the gearbox. Already confirm with Mazda technician, if you insist to change it within 5 years or 100k they will ask you to sign a document mention that you knew about the warranty void. So better just go out.
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QUOTE(minizian @ Apr 5 2023, 11:10 AM)
I am surprised if they are not equipped with the skills of changing the ATF.

The way I see it is they like to harp on the ATF being sealed for life but they don't have the skills to change the fluid if the customer requesting for whatever reason.

I think they could earn some extra dough if they were to provide ATF fuild change, I am sure they will be up skill with the know how and proper procedure and sop to do so properly than outside pomen.

Eg like in proton they dont mind changing for you earlier  if requested for as long you paying for it. Usually they ask why are you doing this but eventually they still change it for you.

Also, does this lifetime fluid also applicable to manual mazda?
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QUOTE(littlefire @ Apr 5 2023, 11:16 AM)
They can change the ATF oil for you but warranty void for the gearbox. Already confirm with Mazda technician, if you insist to change it within 5 years or 100k they will ask you to sign a document mention that you knew about the warranty void. So better just go out.
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Unless the warranty is 5 years unlimited mileage I will follow them. But atf have life. Solution to change it outside, definitely will not leaving any trace. A normal car gb, definitely will have fresher feeling once change the ATF.
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QUOTE(saintprayer @ Apr 5 2023, 08:38 AM)
Tumpang ask, any idea how much it cost to change condenser for cx5? Was quoted rm880 for condenser itself and rm300 for labour, not yet include other aircond service cost, is the price reasonable?
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If you cheapskate ask for local, Thailand or China made condenser. So many aftermarket stuff nowadays just you want take risk of the quality. Some of them may offer 1 year warranty, so would be better to get 1 with it.

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QUOTE(littlefire @ Apr 5 2023, 11:27 AM)
If you cheapskate ask for local, Thailand or China made condenser. So many aftermarket stuff nowadays just you want take risk of the quality. Some of them may offer 1 year warranty, so would be better to get 1 with it.
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Bro, your view for oem engine mounting vs original. Price almost 1/3 original price. If it Honda, many oem made in Thai. Ok or just meh?

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