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TSlowyat101
post Mar 3 2023, 01:14 PM, updated 3y ago

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Hi,

Below is the sketch for my dry kitchen. The total width is about 9ft, where left with about 5ft corridor after deducting the cabinets on both sides. Length is about 17ft.

Planning to put 3 downlight spots as indicated by the red circle.

Questions:
1) What's the size of the downlight needed? I'm planning to get the 5" light (around 900-950lm each). Is it sufficient?
2) What shall be the positioning distance? Shall I take 17ft/4 as the center to center distance to place the 3 downlights?

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ikeiyou
post Mar 3 2023, 01:19 PM

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speaking from own experience. thats not enough.
you need lights from the cabinets too.
the work top is too dark due to shadow from cabinets.

like this example:

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post Mar 3 2023, 01:26 PM

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QUOTE(ikeiyou @ Mar 3 2023, 01:19 PM)
speaking from own experience. thats not enough.
you need lights from the cabinets too.
the work top is too dark due to shadow from cabinets.
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oh ya, will have T5 below the top cabinet (the one on the right hand side)

the cabinet on the left hand side will be tall cabinet with fridge

actually i'm thinking to put the 6" downlight but worry that it might look too big for the small area hmm.gif

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post Mar 3 2023, 01:31 PM

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QUOTE(lowyat101 @ Mar 3 2023, 01:26 PM)
oh ya, will have T5 below the top cabinet (the one on the right hand side)

the cabinet on the left hand side will be tall cabinet with fridge

actually i'm thinking to put the 6" downlight but worry that it might look too big for the small area  hmm.gif

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just my sugestion, again, use 4 or maybe 6 smaller downlights instead.
those 3 large downlights will cause ugly shadows.


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post Mar 3 2023, 01:32 PM

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post Mar 3 2023, 01:41 PM

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QUOTE(ikeiyou @ Mar 3 2023, 01:31 PM)
just my sugestion, again, use 4 or maybe 6 smaller downlights instead.
those 3 large downlights will cause ugly shadows.
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i see, ok noted your suggestion. will ask the contractor to loop 2 more points then

too bad the contractor is saying that nowadays, looping like this short distance is also counted as 1 new light point price, no more separation between new point vs loop point doh.gif doh.gif

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post Mar 3 2023, 01:58 PM

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What is the height of the ceiling?

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post Mar 3 2023, 02:03 PM

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same size with yours, i put 6" 18W 6 downlight with two switch, sometimes i just walk in drink water just turn on 1 switch
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post Mar 3 2023, 02:07 PM

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QUOTE(lowyat101 @ Mar 3 2023, 01:41 PM)
i see, ok noted your suggestion. will ask the contractor to loop 2 more points then

too bad the contractor is saying that nowadays, looping like this short distance is also counted as 1 new light point price, no more separation between new point vs loop point  doh.gif  doh.gif
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Its always been liddat lah.

Ownself diy lor.


U need min 6 lights best is 8 lights.

If u fancy add few more smaller spotlight to shine on the hanging cabinet
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post Mar 3 2023, 02:08 PM

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QUOTE(brutus @ Mar 3 2023, 01:58 PM)
What is the height of the ceiling?
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slightly more than 9ft

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post Mar 3 2023, 02:08 PM

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QUOTE(Autocountstick @ Mar 3 2023, 02:03 PM)
same size with yours, i put 6" 18W 6 downlight with two switch, sometimes i just walk in drink water just turn on 1 switch
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wow 6 lights, in 1 row?
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post Mar 3 2023, 02:10 PM

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QUOTE(WaCKy-Angel @ Mar 3 2023, 02:07 PM)
Its always been liddat lah.

Ownself diy lor.
U need min 6 lights best is 8 lights.

If u fancy add few more smaller spotlight to shine on the hanging cabinet
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ok noted with thanks, didn't expect need to have so many lights.

btw since the width is only 5ft, shall i put all the lights in a row?

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post Mar 3 2023, 02:19 PM

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QUOTE(lowyat101 @ Mar 3 2023, 02:08 PM)
slightly more than 9ft
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Then 3 pcs is sufficient (900-1200lm). Ensure you get quality downlights like Philips/Osram as their stated lumen output is true output.
Have seen Philips 1200lm beat those China branded so claimed 1440lm when we use a lux meter to measure. (122lx vs 100lx).
Also the Philips 1200lm only consume 12W whereas the China branded needs 18W.
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post Mar 3 2023, 03:27 PM

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QUOTE(brutus @ Mar 3 2023, 02:19 PM)
Then 3 pcs is sufficient (900-1200lm). Ensure you get quality downlights like Philips/Osram as their stated lumen output is true output.
Have seen Philips 1200lm beat those China branded so claimed 1440lm when we use a lux meter to measure. (122lx vs 100lx).
Also the Philips 1200lm only consume 12W whereas the China branded needs 18W.
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noted with thanks. i think i will try with the 3 first, if not enough then only make another 2 holes in between the 3.

for 1200lm i believe it's the 6" light, jus wondering if it will look ok based on my corridor width of only 5ft?

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post Mar 3 2023, 03:29 PM

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QUOTE(lowyat101 @ Mar 3 2023, 02:08 PM)
wow 6 lights, in 1 row?
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oi... dont lah in a single row. LOL!!!
also get bulbs with good CRI.
nothing makes the house look haunted than a poor CRI led light
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post Mar 3 2023, 04:42 PM

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QUOTE(ikeiyou @ Mar 3 2023, 03:29 PM)
oi... dont lah in a single row. LOL!!!
also get bulbs with good CRI.
nothing makes the house look haunted than a poor CRI led light
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ya looking for CRI 80 based on the advices from the bosses here tongue.gif

btw i see a brand called Pila which based on the specs has the CRI 80 but pricing is lower than Ledvance/Philips. Not sure if anyone has the experience with this Pila brand? reviews on lzd/shp seems positive

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QUOTE(lowyat101 @ Mar 3 2023, 04:42 PM)
ya looking for CRI 80 based on the advices from the bosses here  tongue.gif

btw i see a brand called Pila which based on the specs has the CRI 80 but pricing is lower than Ledvance/Philips. Not sure if anyone has the experience with this Pila brand? reviews on lzd/shp seems positive

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never worked with this Pila brand before. I only trust older brands because I lazy to change bulbs regularly.
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post Mar 3 2023, 10:01 PM

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QUOTE(lowyat101 @ Mar 3 2023, 04:42 PM)
ya looking for CRI 80 based on the advices from the bosses here  tongue.gif

btw i see a brand called Pila which based on the specs has the CRI 80 but pricing is lower than Ledvance/Philips. Not sure if anyone has the experience with this Pila brand? reviews on lzd/shp seems positive

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Pila is a low cost solution from Philips. For own house use, I only go for Philips with at least 30KHrs (3-Year Warranty) for downlights. No point to skimp for a few pcs as the installation cost is way higher.
If you are concern with energy savings, look for downlights with efficacy of >95lm/W.
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post Mar 3 2023, 10:31 PM

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QUOTE(ikeiyou @ Mar 3 2023, 04:47 PM)
I lazy to change bulbs regularly.
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Same here which is the reason why I changed all my older downlights to LED downlights. Typical LED bulbs lasts 8-10KHrs offering 1-Year warranty. Better quality lasts 15KHrs and better efficacy.

Example as below:

PHILIPS E27 LED Bulbs:

10Khrs 1055lm 11W
15KHrs 1055lm 9.5W

To replace these E27 LED Bulbs downlight, we only need to replace it with 900lm LED downlight that is brighter and higher efficacy.

 

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