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baowen
post Oct 22 2007, 09:17 PM

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lim... my team comfirm d right ?
because i see no update there, a bit curious .. biggrin.gif
and .. left 3 hour ++ is deadline
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post Oct 23 2007, 12:05 PM

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the tourney looks messy and quite dead this year
how come the biggest tourney become like that
lolz
wat a big joke
SUSFlizzardo
post Oct 23 2007, 12:18 PM

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i think because clashed with spm
TSmygaming'
post Oct 23 2007, 01:49 PM

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still left 10hour for the smm grand final confirmation time close..
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post Oct 23 2007, 05:59 PM

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eh....sino not yet confirm kah?lim,baowen said they confirmed but no update 1=/
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post Oct 23 2007, 06:33 PM

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Chill guys dont so kan cheong if worried just call Lim up lor cause he 1 person cant do so many thing lol smile.gif
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post Oct 23 2007, 07:19 PM

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aaron u din help him....bad assistant
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am1212
post Oct 23 2007, 07:38 PM

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how come so many team forfeited
lolz
Rev.G | Limly`
post Oct 23 2007, 10:11 PM

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Lim I Had Send Rev.G Confirmation Letter For You, Please Help Us Check For It, Thanks
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post Oct 24 2007, 12:53 AM

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Team Confirmation deadline is over. Please await for further announcements


Added on October 25, 2007, 3:55 pmAdditional information is available at the first post. All teams that is participating in the Grand Final are required to take note of the latest announcements

This post has been edited by mygaming': Oct 25 2007, 03:55 PM
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post Oct 25 2007, 03:59 PM

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Additional information is available at the first post. All teams that are participating in the Grand Final are required to take note of the latest announcements

There will be also an LCD screen showcasing selected ongoing games live for spectators at the stage area. Do drop by to have a look.
baowen
post Oct 25 2007, 08:15 PM

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QUOTE(mygaming' @ Oct 14 2007, 02:39 AM)

We will also be using a seeding system to ensure a much balanced group stage than previous tournaments. The seedings will be given to 16 teams in which a maximum 2 seeded teams will be facing off in each of the groups. The basis of the seedings will be based on the 13 winners of each stage of the SMM Qualfiiers + 3 (or more) special seedings.

The order of the seedings will be as follows :

SMM Champion > 3 Special Tournament Champion , 1st , 2nd , 3d runner up (In order) > SMM 1st , 2nd , 3rd runner up

The special seedings will be based on the performance of teams in selected 3 tournaments in this order :

1. R-Matrix competition,Rawang.
2. Batu Pahat Dota Tournament.
3. ACG Malaysian Qualifiers.

*Added info #2*

The 16 seeded teams have been drawn into their respective groups. Most of them are drawn by their team leaders at the Rawang tournament and while the rest has been drawn by the marshalls to facilitate planning. The teams seeded are 12 winners of the various qualifiers + 4 special seeds ( INC-DOP , mKvL , DNA-SK , E-NSP )

*Added info #3*

Teams not seeded will have to go through a qualifier to get themselves in the group stage. The qualifiers will be played with each team playing 2 games with the same opponent. In the event of a 1 win 1 lose situation , the team that took the shortest time required to win will qualify.

*Added info #4*

Registration of teams at the 27th of October is 7.30 a.m. - 8.30 a.m. Teams that failed to register themselves at that time period will be Disqualified from the tournament.
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Thank for the update, but there something i not very clear about it..
**Teams not seeded will have to go through a qualifier to get themselves in the group stage, The qualifiers will be played with each team playing 2 games with same opponent** << that mean ? very confuse because my english is poor.

There is total of 37 team.
16 team seeded = 16 slot left
21 team need to go through the knockout stage for the last 16 slot in group stage.

As i know, 10 major SMM stage qualifier have better seeding then the Revenge Revival stage, this is what Mr.Lim told me biggrin.gif Last year SMM will give priority to the Stage qualifer first, if there is slot left, only go for Revenge stage.
But this year, Revenge stage are same with Stage qualify... and it totally different from Mr.Lim told me.
Rules are subject to change, but I got no idea why it happen like this, none seeded team still need go for qualifier match in order to play in group stage. Like that what is the purpose of having 10 stage qualifer?
I hope my understanding is wrong, and please... someone please explain this... icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Oct 26 2007, 12:45 AM

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In an ideal situation , the 10 SMM stage qualifier should be placed much more emphasis. But with the various rules changes since the start of the tournament , we decided to place the same emphasis for all tournaments by priotising the winner and the runners-up in order for all 13 stages.

Basically we are trying to preserve the format that Ian Mok devised last year by creating 8 groups in which 2 from each group will advance to playoffs in a single elimination format.
Due to the severe time constraints placed on us , we cant afford to put 5 teams in a group (10 matches needed to finish the group) but can only put in 4 teams (6 matches needed to finish the group). So we devised a plan to fit in all teams into the 8 groups of 4 where the teams that played the least matches , which are the qualifiers will at least play 2 games before going home . Sad as it may sound , but its the best we can come out with based on the circumstances here.


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baowen
post Oct 26 2007, 02:16 AM

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QUOTE(underminer @ Oct 26 2007, 12:45 AM)
In an ideal situation , the 10 SMM stage qualifier should be placed much more emphasis. But with the various rules changes since the start of the tournament , we decided to place the same emphasis for all tournaments by priotising the winner and the runners-up in order for all 13 stages.

Basically we are trying to preserve the format that Ian Mok devised last year by creating 8 groups in which 2 from each group will advance to playoffs in a single elimination format.
Due to the severe time constraints placed on us , we cant afford to put 5 teams in a group (10 matches needed to finish the group) but can only put in 4 teams (6 matches needed to finish the group). So we devised a plan to fit in all teams into the 8 groups of 4 where the teams that played the least matches , which are the qualifiers will at least play 2 games before going home . Sad as it may sound , but its the best we can come out with based on the circumstances here.
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As i thought, "Rules changes" will be your explaination.
like that is Mr.Lim bluff me jor sad.gif
Anyways, it's unfair for State Qualifier. Who don't know State qualifier having more pro team competeting, where Revenge stage are having some team forms by those "already qualified player inside?".
Like that everyone should wait until the last SMM qualify stage only go, because before that already have alot high ranked team qualify jor.

Thing you have to know, there have different between State qualifier and Revenge state, Standard at this two stage are different, some team try many times at state qualify and they failed, but they can get champion at Revenge stage. ( i am sorry to say that, no hard feeling, not pointing anyone, just an example )
If State Qualify = Revenge Stage, why the prize money decrease to 50% while the registration money only reduce RM40 ?
can't understand Revenge Stage also can get seeded.

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post Oct 26 2007, 02:29 AM

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QUOTE(baowen @ Oct 26 2007, 02:16 AM)
As i thought, "Rules changes" will be your explaination.
like that is Mr.Lim bluff me jor sad.gif
Anyways, it's unfair for State Qualifier. Who don't know State qualifier having more pro team competeting, where Revenge stage are having some team forms by those "already qualified player inside?".
Like that everyone should wait until the last SMM qualify stage only go, because before that already have alot high ranked team qualify jor.

Thing you have to know, there have different between State qualifier and Revenge state, Standard at this two stage are different, some team try many times at state qualify and they failed, but they can get champion at Revenge stage. ( i am sorry to say that, no hard feeling, not pointing anyone, just an example )
If State Qualify = Revenge Stage, why the prize money decrease to 50% while the registration money only reduce RM40 ?
can't understand Revenge Stage also can get seeded.
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Actually, i think they won't expected that got 4 revenge state proposed this year smile.gif But i quite agree your point.
Anyway, gd luck for all of the participant! Who's gonna be the real-time REPORTER then? biggrin.gif
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post Oct 26 2007, 03:28 AM

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QUOTE(baowen @ Oct 26 2007, 02:16 AM)
As i thought, "Rules changes" will be your explaination.
like that is Mr.Lim bluff me jor sad.gif
Anyways, it's unfair for State Qualifier. Who don't know State qualifier having more pro team competeting, where Revenge stage are having some team forms by those "already qualified player inside?".
Like that everyone should wait until the last SMM qualify stage only go, because before that already have alot high ranked team qualify jor.

Thing you have to know, there have different between State qualifier and Revenge state, Standard at this two stage are different, some team try many times at state qualify and they failed, but they can get champion at Revenge stage. ( i am sorry to say that, no hard feeling, not pointing anyone, just an example )
If State Qualify = Revenge Stage, why the prize money decrease to 50% while the registration money only reduce RM40 ?
can't understand Revenge Stage also can get seeded.
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As we know Malacca is the Final stage for the Grand Final.
Due to SMM survey and request by many contestants, SMM decided to held the Revenge.
Revenge is not a certainty for this Grand Final and the prize money and regisration money is all determine by SMM and we have no right whatsoever to determine it. We hope for ur understanding and Lim didn't cheat u lor cause what he told u was told to him by SMM previously and we only know that there is a Revenge after the Final Stage.

As u think that it is not fair and dont wan to join the last stage for state qualifier and decided to wait for the Revenge.
What if SMM decided not to make the Revenge?? Do u think u can still join the grand final as u are able to now??

This post has been edited by MyGaming-Aaron: Oct 26 2007, 03:33 AM
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post Oct 26 2007, 03:39 AM

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QUOTE(MyGaming-Aaron @ Oct 26 2007, 03:28 AM)
As we know Malacca is the Final stage for the Grand Final.
Due to SMM survey and request by many contestants, SMM decided to held the Revenge.
Revenge is not a certainty for this Grand Final and the prize money and regisration money is all determine by SMM and we have no right whatsoever to determine it. We hope for ur understanding and Lim didn't cheat u lor cause what he told u was told to him by SMM previously and we only know that there is a Revenge after the Final Stage.

As u think that it is not fair and dont wan to join the last stage for state qualifier and decided to wait for the Revenge.
What if SMM decided not to make the Revenge?? Do u think u can still join the grand final as u are able to now??
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FYI, last year also got revenge stage smile.gif
what i point out is.. revenge stage champion also count seeded team, that's unfair.
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post Oct 26 2007, 04:15 AM

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QUOTE(baowen @ Oct 26 2007, 03:39 AM)
FYI, last year also got revenge stage smile.gif
what i point out is.. revenge stage champion also count seeded team, that's unfair.
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Last year got doesn't mean that it is a sure thing.
If it is assured that there will be revenge dont u think they will have mention it?

Even though it is a revenge but they are still the Champion ><

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post Oct 26 2007, 06:48 AM

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If suddenly wanted to change players isit possible?
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i agree with baowen......wat ever smm say doesnt mean u have to follow.....didnt u guys propose this issue to the person incharge? if really the revenge champion has the same ranking with state champion i feel is pointless we play the state qualifiers. Is so dam unfair!!

Btw if this is the case means premier league has the same standard with the rest of the england league?.....omg! This kinda lame. I feel everyone going to be dissapointed bout this.

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