Hi,
How would you choose of Ativa vs X50? In terms of Price, Performance and the most important thing - Maintenance Fees 😅

Japanese car to me for reliability.

There are two different segments of these cars

if maintenance fee concern you, choose ativa

I wonder if the X50 X70 spare parts still takes months as heard before

It's 1L with Turbo, right? Wouldn't the Turbo hard and expensive to be maintained? (Like Exora does ðŸĪŠ)

I would go for Ativa in this case. Ativa still based on Japanase engine from Toyota I think.

not really expensive but whatever adds on pero offer during service, just decline =x

make sure service the car on time and use genuine oil you should be fine

X50 bad fc, wont comment about Ativa since i'm not join Ativa FB group



This post has been edited by croydon: Feb 27 2023, 09:48 AM

Blind also know x50 is much better la

Ativa completely not the same level

This post has been edited by TanahGagal: Feb 27 2023, 04:35 PM

Small car of course has low fc and low maintenance

If you want low maintenance get Sedan

Both of these options have super expensive tire that cost you above 1.5k to change all

And if you concern about Turbo, then get a N/A engine car instead, Turbo fuel consumption quite high for city drive.

Proton FC is so horrible until I feel like ppl that sewel only buy ( except for saga )

both are different segments.

Richman club- X50 (High Price, Standard Safety, High Power, Petrol hungry, full reliability, etc)
Savings club - Ativa (Medium Price, Standard Safety, medium power, semi reliabilty, etc)

Totally different segment... Should not compare...

This post has been edited by danielmckey: Feb 27 2023, 09:55 AM

For practicality and lower cost, Ativa, for drivibility x50.

Are you really considering these 2 cars? Sounds like you arent

i have both cars, but the answer is depending on what you use that car mostly for.
if city traffic - get the ativa.
if regularly long distance - the x50 (the seats are far far better)

in terms of reliability, both are good. they've never given me problems, at all.
cars are just tools. get the one that fits your use.

For overall driving experience, I believe the X50 is much better. For a more budget friendly option, get the Ativa.

TBH, both cars are not expensive to own.
But if buyer is concerned about saving money, then avoid SUVs entirely.
The tyre costs itself will make you hurt.
Like I said above, cars are just tools. If you need an SUV, then you get one. If you dont, there are other options.

Want power get X50
Want good FC get Ativa

ativa

X50

Purely due to the driving dynamics n experience

Tekan sure vroom damn syok

Run over bumps also no rasa

Keep in mind high FC and exp tyres

But Myr still cheap fuel so yolo

x50 la. spareparts can buy from taobao je

ativa

Reconsider both choices if money is tight. SUV maintenance is higher than sedan car.

maintenance fee: ativa > x50

even x50 can go far, i will pick ativa.

wait for s50 and new vios?

x50 active cruise control is still not as refined as toyota.

sometimes the car steer itself too close to the other lane.

tested both on mrr2

I see! Any examples?

X50 Bad FC? shocked ðŸ˜ē

Maybe Perodua light weight that's why good in FC?

WOW... I might be able to get the satisfied ideas from you 😁
70% KL & Selangor Drive. And maybe once a month outstation!
My concern still surrounded to maintenance wise — parts (price and durability), fees (overall).

How about performance and power (5 persons + luggages)?

This post has been edited by mactreouser: Feb 27 2023, 11:12 AM

for 5 person + luggage, even the x50 is too small.
If short distance still bearable. If you go long distance, its uncomfortable.

Very Honest Suggestions and advice! Appreciate!
Does it mean, New Alza also should be avoided?
Actually how expensive is the SUV's Tyre compare to Sedan?

High FC really shocking me! Nowadays, what a technologies!

Wow.... Can't imagine! Roughly, how much difference? Like how many percentage higher than a Sedan maintenant fees?

sound like axia vs vios..... but the new vios now has some features brought from ativa... lol

This post has been edited by kevintth: Feb 27 2023, 11:20 AM

They are not sewel, they just not cheapskate like Perodua owner. They know what they paid for. They rather pay extra money for fuel than have to endure the feeling like 'naik sampan' at the highway or road with lots of corners.

I used to own both (MyVi & Persona) and have to travel almost 100-150km daily for my previous job, and seriously the fuel difference just around RM30 per month. But the comfort and handling of Proton over Perodua, even if the FC difference is RM100 per month i still willing to choose Proton. MyVi gave me body ache all over after just 2 months of travelling and the problem settled when i changed to Persona.

If avoided those SUV like X50 , Ativa, Alza... What's your advices and suggestions for a better maintenance and good FC with spacious' vehicle?

What a great user reviews! Appreciate!
So. Which car are driving now?

i support this,
i know is diff segment, given u got the budget to buy any of this..

thats the main diff

Fixed

actually, Alza is a good idea too.
It also uses regular sized tyres.

Civic

If no budget then it’s City

Advance and H model’s tyre is on the pricier side, changing 4 will cost you upwards of RM1k too.



This post has been edited by msacras: Feb 27 2023, 11:38 AM

Alza is different from X50, Ativa
Its a spacious 7 seater with claimed 22km/l

Lower maintenence naturally aspirated proven Myvi engine. Lowest variant X has 15" rims so tyres cost 200+ each (for those worried about tyre cost over 3-4 years)

For Ativa... RM paid for my myvi when service by pero is almost identical
an example of it is they will ask you to install that magnet >>https://www.wapcar.my/news/magnetic-trap-on-oil-filters--do-they-really-work-or-is-it-just-a-quack-remedy-57377 <<
or some battery thingy to prevent leak, IDK what is that so cannot find the source

anyway, just say no to all those nonsense


for driving... if you are fetching people a lot... back sit is not so comfortable...

Driving alone is good but not on corner.

edit - some typo

This post has been edited by blindmutedeaf: Feb 27 2023, 11:37 AM

New or old myvi?

the x50 still rather new. but when the time comes shouldn't be too far from what i paid for 4pcs on the older x70

This post has been edited by ikeiyou: Feb 27 2023, 11:54 AM

Changed to new Persona. FC wise better than old Persona but of course not as much as Bezza/MyVi. But as the reason i stated before, drive comfort and handling is my priority that's why still stick with Proton.

if ur main priority is maintenance, operating cost, go for ativa.
but bear in mind these 2 cars not really in the same category.
ativa engine is weak, which makes it doesn't feel like a SUV, more like a jacked up myvi feel.
driving vise, grip, handling, speed, responsiveness, cornering, ativa doesn't hold a candle against x50.

TLDR:
care about cost - go for Ativa
care about driving experience - x50

till this day, myvi is the only car i'll pening when i sit in 1.

Maintenance cost wise, Ativa is more friendlier

u have money or not.

have money, go x50.

no money, ativa.

Want power and better interior go x50
Want fc and lower maintenance go ativa

Activa tak sedap, x50 tebu best gile, spec to spec comparison, Tapi spare part tarak

This post has been edited by johnnycp: Feb 28 2023, 08:42 AM

asal bukan proton

ouch! might rethinking my plans to upgrade to an SUV.

buy both. settle.

Cannot comment so much...those x50 or x70 lovers will condemn you for raise up thier loved car problem....
For me I will choose perodua for their servis .spare part available or chop shop for the part...

True.i own a proton persona ...regard fc proton will thirst a bit more only compare myvy ..but hey 1.6 sure consume more fuel then 1.5 a bit more....long distant drive sure proton better ..can't be wrong..
For sparepart available both brand sure perodua win..

One more thing not sure how Ativa's gearbox in terms of maintainence compares to the x50. The x50 dual clutch gearbox clutch changes might be on the higher side. If you take the advance model for x50 electronics over the long term might be in question. No doubt the x50's ride quality power etc better then Ativa considering its in a different segment but that said there are a lot more things to consider for long term reliability then to just think change engine oil and jalan kinda mentality.

This is just Alza, not even remotely classified as SUV.

If budget allow, X50. Ativa build quality quite sad, but for it's price, still ok. I very much prefer a X50 for daily drive.

Don't dream on it too much. B segment MPV 3rd row very jeebye. Best is c segment like exora..

Have you fetched passengers in Alza 3rd row from PJ to Langkawi and asked their opinion?

Hint: Alza wheelbase > Exora

X50 is overall a much superior car...albeit pricier

If you don't mind the spare part issues (which proton is trying to solve by opening a new regional part center in east m'sia), definitely go for X50. No brainer

Old one yes. New one not yet. Old one not for adults

How not to mind X50 sparepart issues???

Hi, i want to know how much does ativa number plate casing cost? Spoke to the Perodua dealer says that number plate is RM40 but not including the casing? Does normally Perodua give for free the casing or I have to buy from them or should I buy outside and ask them to fix it? Sounds weird pay for number plate but no casing ? Thanks..newbie here.

How about the H WRV ? Thats a cute lil crossover.

Ativa cheaper to maintain

Honda wrv

This is what I noticed as an Ativa owner. Inside the car the vibration from the 3-cylinder engine is definitely more than the X50. But, if you stand outside with the hood open on both car, you can see the X50 3-cylinder makes much more noise with bigger vibration. I can only say the insulation is better on the X50 but that amount of noise and vibration will really put a big question mark on the X50 in the longer term. Toyota on the other hand has been making reliable 3-cylinder engine for ages while Geely in China already switched back the X50 engine back to 4-cylinder and rumours X50 face-lift in Malaysia next year will also switch back to 4-cylinder.engine.

Usually the car showroom company adds the plate number holder for free with their company branding at the bottom as some sort of advertisement.

Can go any showroom sit test drive car. Their cars should be 2-3 years old now

That's what I thought. I think they are just taking advantage of me maybe?... sounds really weird that I have to buy the casing separately. thanks!

passive safety, isnt x50 is better than ativa?
ativa body looks soft.

Wait for rebadged Yaris cross ?

2024 still got people see car safety from looks and knock on door panel ka? You know we have crash tests for that right?
And even if worried also worried about X50 more. Geely not an international car maker, they only design their cars to CNCAP standard which is very very low compared to even Asean NCAP, don't even talk about EURO NCAP. Proton had to redesign so many things to pass Asean NCAP, orignal Geely Binyue would have failed. Chery is a much better China brand because their cars designed and passed Euro NCAP and Australia NCAP

I own ativa and my dad own x50..

Refinement wise, x50 way better

Ativa Better, Low Maintaince and FC is Cheap.

X50 Maintaince slightly high but the major is FC very High, if u buy X50

use for 10 years, u FC Cost can make u buy 1 Ativa.

X50 coz aktiva sampan ride

Take this byd m6 instant torque


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let's say it doubles ativa fc which is not.. rm50 per tank.. 1 month rm200... 1 year rm2400.. 10 years rm24k... buy mat lan ativa? u got calculate before simply spew shit?

This post has been edited by kidmad: Dec 1 2024, 05:49 AM

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This post has been edited by ayamxxx: Nov 30 2024, 10:44 PM

He used total fuel cost instead of the difference in fuel cost, which is wrong lo.

As i heard my friend said X50 Full Tank RM 100, Ativa full Tank 65, the different is Rm 35, and X50 Full Tank can go 320Km, Ativa Full Tank can go 380km so i roughly calculate the Different RM 50, if 1 month 4 time pump Fuel is Different RM 200 for Petrol 12 month is Rm 2400, 10 year is Rm 24,000

the 2nd thing different is Maintenance Cost, Ativa yearly Maintain Cost is RM 700, X50 year maintain Cost is Rm 1200, 1 year different Rm 500, 10 year is Rm 5,000

The 3rd Thing Different is Proton is make in China, u also know China Quality after use 5 year , sini rosak situ rosak, expect repair cost will be Rm 8000 for 10 year

The 4th Thing is Tyre, Ativa 17 inch, X50 18 Inch, the different cost for 4 tyre total is 170 x 4 = Rm 680 , if 10 year change 5 time will be different RM 3,400

The 5th Thing, Resell Value after 10 years, we can refer CARRO website after 3 years car for X50 Flagship VS 3 years Car ATIVA AV Version

2021 X50 Selling price - Rm 78,800 - Buying Price Rm 106,000 = Total Lose Rm 27,200

https://carro.co/my/en/cars/proton/x50/2021...1-5l/29N5RLN141

2021 ATIVA AV Selling price - Rm 61,800 - Buying Price RM 72,000 - Total Lose Rm 10,200

https://carro.co/my/en/cars/perodua/ativa/2...1-0l/1P263XKV4V

So the Different Total Lose is Rm 27,200 - Rm 10,200 = Rm 17,000

ok, now we see how much the total cost different for ATIVA and X50 after use for 10 years

1st Petrol Different = RM 24,000
2nd Maintenance Cost Differnt = Rm 5,000
3rd Repair Cost Different = Rm 8,000
4th Tyre Cost Different = RM 3,400
5th Resell Value Cost Different = RM 17,000

Total Cost Different = RM 57,400

Can buy 1 More Myvi Already

I never understood why Ativa is so popular, for what it offers its actually very pricey car. Top up a bit you can already get top range proton or top range Perodua.

Obviously u pay for 98hp fuel consumption vs 175hp, sure that higher hp need more fuel. But from what i tested, it will more than 320km per tank, more km range if ride on highway

Maintenance services as attached, how u got rm1.2k annually? Unless u believe all those optional service quoted by SA, engine oil additive, fuel cleaner, brake cleaner thingy, paid car wash then sure can hit rm1.2k annually.

Point 3, any proof? What items u need to replace for rm8k, can details a bit? AC compressor? Alternator? First 5 years is under warranty.

Point 4, suggest you go change at Oscar Bukit Kemuning for better price of tyre, brand new tyre. They quoted the cheapest tyre price in KL/ Selangor

RV, obviously a more car price will drop price more vs lower priced car. Take Conti how much they loss for RV, cz the initial price is higher


This post has been edited by ayamxxx: Dec 2 2024, 05:54 AM

You need to own one to know one.

Not sure how you deduce, after even reading 80 replies here.

Since this is not Kopitiam...

1) for city drives, Ativa is much more powerful at lower revs pulling a lighter load giving a better driving experience for the average driver (from one of reply)

2) cheaper to maintain

3) high resell value.

4) Japanese reliability Vs China brand

There’s also the size considerations that this sort of topic never really considers. Some people just prefer a compact car and want something higher end than myvi, then ativa is pretty much the only cheapest options before you go to Rm100k range.

As an owner of proton x50, and drive mostly 90% city drive - which resulted in worse FC possible, I can say this is bullshit

Typical I heard from atok nenek cousin friend kucing

yes, I'm one of the sewel ones cause I never bought a Proton for the FC thou.

Gotta stop speculating based on hearsay,

I have both cars in my family, your calculations above quite far off. Can refer to ayamxxx response

the moment i saw those figures he spew can see how much bullshit he is throwing up in serious /k.. maybe should report da fellow for imaginary figures.

point 1. stop posting nonsense when u dont even bother googling.. x50 tank got 50l? ativa vs x50 tank size is only 9 liters.
go to proton x50 sub section some members do get 6.5l/100km but alot are getting approx 11km/l.. 40l how many km? to be honest ativa fuel consumption is no where good..

point 2. go to da damn sites lookup 0-120k km how much is the total cost of service la. Pauline tan already do comparison with hrv.. in total to 100k km x50 only cost you rm4.3k.. where u pull up rm5k difference?

point 3. some stupid random number from no where.

point 4. u every 2 year change tyre? smart.. salesman eh?

point 5. base on your poor mindset and comparison why drive ativa? get a bezza or axia la. there's reason ppl driving bmw and yr still stuck with illogical comparison.

This post has been edited by kidmad: Dec 2 2024, 08:59 PM

LOL, you need to admit it, X50 Resell Value is Lower Than ATIVA... THIS IS TRUE, please refer the link I Send, here will make u total lose Rm 17k Different

My Friend Said it was True, X50 Full Tank RM 100 only can Jalan 320km like that