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 HK Model Abby Choi murdered, body cut & cooked

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mowlous
post Feb 24 2023, 11:19 PM

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Money related la ....... according to HK news she seems to want to end things with the ex ....

Most likely she married young , then join entertainment industry, manage to fish a f&b tycoon son, then end marriage with ex ..... maybe that time she think she owe them cause not faithful or something, so pay alimony to the ex to take care of their kids .... mana tau also because of this the ex-husband parents side rely on that income to live large and kept asking for more. In fact according to HK news she got a 100mil dispute with them also ..... so most likely she cannot tahan that kind of pressure that the ex's side try to eat into her new hubby pocket so wanna end things permanently and went on to confront them alone.

What happen next is either ex-husband side rage murder or accidental murder then decide using that way to dispose the body. A tragic end indeed.
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post Feb 25 2023, 12:19 AM

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QUOTE(Laguna @ Feb 24 2023, 11:41 PM)
Err I suspect more like the ex is already nuts already if want to dispose why bother cooking and eating her body parts ? Got inspired by ted bundy ? . So many ways to dispose but choose to eat her nut case already confirmed.
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They didn't say anything about eating ........ dispose body parts easiest way is to treat it as meat, chop it as parts, store them in fridge, bits by bits cooked them in a pot, then dispose them in small quantity. Most likely its the ex-husband's parents idea especially if they from kampung and experience killing cows or pigs.

when meat (no matter what meat) is cooked will prevent suspicious corpse smell as it does not give out a rotting smell.

Some criminal have experience in disposing big animal would know what to do to reduce suspicion. They didn't one shot cook everything because they are trying to discreetly ensure that those pieces are small enough to dump w/o rising the alarm.

Without cooking them the piece will rot and it will be easier for people to detect.

If you have watch china murder case news before you'd know this body cooking technique isn't something new ...... there are 15 murder case where victim is cooked last year. Just that this is blown up because she is well known.
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post Feb 25 2023, 03:03 AM

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QUOTE(Laguna @ Feb 25 2023, 01:02 AM)
Interesting I don't watch a lot of china murder case news before so this is new to me. You seem very well verse about the topic matter  biggrin.gif  and the mo for all this cases.
I know it didn't mentioned eating but when you cook something .. it is implied someone is about to eat it for food.
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I grew up watching tons of detective story books, tv series and true crime investigative stuff ....... even some of the more realistic case like actual murder record, trails, blue prints etc ....... and constantly roleplay a scenario to conjecture what could have happen.

With this many years of visual experience I can tell you, there is no perfect crime in this world, only a well thought of crime that rely on human ignorance, and time to cover the act.

For this case I can tell you roughly what happen base on the limited info that is public ......

1. Highest chance the killing wasn't intentional as if it was intentional then they are dumb beyond normal to set the killing spot at their place instead of some no man's land.

2. The kill potentially is trauma to the head. High chance as they argue she got pushed and knock on something hard, or got strike by a blunt object. If she die from bleeding all over the place the cleaning would have been hard. (Since neighbour didn't smell anything unusual means the blood wasn't on a big pool or none at all.)

3. Blood start to smell roughly 20 - 30min depending how thick and dry it is, someone among them must have been experience in blood draining because if they don't drain the blood first before chopping the whole thing will be a mess. and you can't cover that kind of smell.

4. Most likely they used a make shift tube to drain her blood and boil that first then pour down toilet or bathtub and flush with hot water. (HK pipe toilet and bathtub harder to detect because its running down sewer pipe straight and bigger pipe compare to sink pipe.)

5. They must have chop the body up on the floor cause bathtub hard to chop, kitchen table too troublesome.

6. Lastly they try to cook small portion, let it cool down, put into freezer to ice it, then dispose them into garbage bag and dump them one bowl at a time so that it will mix with the other garbage and less chance to get detected easy because of the amount.

Lastly its possible when the accident happen one or two of them wanted to call the police, but I am pretty sure one or more of them must have thought about that 100mil dispute and opt for body disposal instead. I'm not sure which member among them is the killer, but I am pretty sure the one that kill her most likely is the most greedy one ... the one that is trying to extort her the most.

If the police was slow to act ....... this could have turn into a missing person case that would never get solved.

As for cooking ....... well ...... cooking something doesn't always result in fooding them down ....... I cook bones and left overs dry then crush them and feed the remains to plants as natural fertilizer. Some items like flowers , seeds are crush and cook with house hold items like flour , oil, starch to produce paint for different purpose.

In this case the details slip past your mind, remember ...... no perfect crime ..... they all rely on our mistake in detail, ignorance and time. If you cover every inch and the news report give you enough detail you'll be able to grade most of the crime with almost a full picture of the truth.
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post Feb 25 2023, 03:18 AM

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QUOTE(MrChubbyChocobo @ Feb 25 2023, 02:14 AM)
Which actress. Can share sos?
U seem to know alot bout murder case 😨
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Just a fan of CSI la ..... not a killer don't worry ........ I'm not dexter.

QUOTE(spamfish @ Feb 25 2023, 02:15 AM)


summary
1. rented place, premediated for dissection & dispose of body
2. fridge found 2 legs, head missing, hands n torso also missing
3. tools like saw, meat grinder found on site.
4. human meat, human pot of soup found
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Well looks like my ignorance miss judge them for accidental ......... base on this info the whole ex-husband family are greedy demons ......
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post Feb 25 2023, 11:40 AM

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QUOTE(oM41GoD_ @ Feb 25 2023, 08:59 AM)
they planned to murder her la

rented the place and covered the surfaces with plastic. There were plastic/water resistant clothing, and electric saw at the scene.
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I wasn't aware of the info when I type my conjectured theories here, I'm a detective fan not a god la ..... so everything comes with a big IF.

From new info it seems like the family might have done this before, so police need to dig deeper cause there is a chance that this gang might have more then one victim they are not aware of.

QUOTE(Laguna @ Feb 25 2023, 09:58 AM)
I was thinking the same thing this guy can sign up to be a detective or potential uhmmm in the making XD. Not saying he is one of them.
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Just a fan la ...... sometimes when you watch a lot of those CSI or dexter or detective series and those youtube talk about those case and stuff your mind would sure have a lot of what if ...... both on the perspective as the person who would solve the case, point out the obvious that police might have miss ....... or play in the perspective of the murderer to catch a glimpse of what his thought process was. Police detective do that all the time and fans well verse in this genre will know when a new series come out its gonna be a good detective movie or a retarded one.

My greatest interest is jack the ripper's myth ....

Only reason why I no police is because idk what qualification needed to join or be detective in malaysia ...... and this job also dangerous cause you are poking directly against real killer that could come after you if you poach too close to their tail.
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post Feb 25 2023, 12:26 PM

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QUOTE(vhs @ Feb 25 2023, 11:57 AM)
Any insight on what happened to Canny Ong back in 2003? Why she could not escape? Got sedated by chemical? But polis saw her being conscious in the car.
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Most likely blackmail .... the one got executed prob black sheep of the mastermind .... we'll never know if police did not dig deep after "solving" her case. But majority if willing to follow the suspect is because they manage to threaten ....

When I say dig deep means after suspect confess his crime police follow up like, check the guy background, family members, relatives, then cross check to see if canny's side got associate cross path or not etc ....

There is no doubt that police can catch a murderer, sometimes its as simple as that, sometimes its something bigger and more sinister ........
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post Feb 25 2023, 03:50 PM

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QUOTE(e46 @ Feb 25 2023, 12:58 PM)
(Hong Kong, 25th Comprehensive Report) In the horror case of cooking and dismembering a corpse in Longwei Village, Tai Po, Hong Kong, the 28-year-old celebrity Abby Choi, the daughter-in-law of the founder of Tanzai Rice Noodles, was brutally murdered by her ex-husband’s family. According to news, Cai married her ex-husband surnamed Alex Kwong in her early years, and invested in the purchase of a property in Kadoorie Hill, Ho Man Tin, where she lived with her ex-husband’s family. However, in order to save stamp duty, she bought the property in the name of Kwong’s father, which is now worth about 68 million Hong Kong dollars. (approximately 38.42 million ringgits), at the end of last year, Cai Nv planned to sell the property for cash, and some people reacted greatly, suspecting that she was dominating the property and carefully planning to kill the situation.

According to sources, Kuang's father (65 years old) is a former police chief who left the police force in 2005. Cai Tianfeng comes from a wealthy family, her parents are doing business in China, and they live a luxurious life. It is reported that 10 years ago, when she was only 18 years old, she married Alex and gave birth to a pair of children who are now 10 years old and 8 years old respectively. She bought a mansion in Kadoorie Hill as a comfortable place to avoid paying huge stamp duty. Borrowing the name of Kwong's father to buy a property, Kwong's father verbally promised to return the contribution to her after selling the property in the future. Later, she divorced Alex, and her ex-husband's family continued to live at the same address. Alex's brother works as a driver and often goes home to visit his ex-husband's family and children.

However, the relationship between the two parties became tense at the end of last year. Kuang's father was dissatisfied with Cai's daughter's intention to sell the luxury house and refused to sell the property. Cai's daughter was dissatisfied with him breaking his promise and forgetting the original promise. , but as long as she shows evidence of having sold the property, she also has a chance to get the property back.

It is reported that some people are worried that the luxury house worth 68 million Hong Kong dollars will not be guaranteed. In addition, Ms. Cai and her current husband are not registered. Her own assets are as high as more than 100 million Hong Kong dollars. As the heir to the inheritance, the Kwong family will be the biggest beneficiaries, and Kwong's father is a legitimate property owner with a net worth of tens of millions of Hong Kong dollars.

The police arrested the deceased’s ex-husband’s parents and elder brother in Kadoorie Hill in the early hours of Friday. The whereabouts of the ex-husband are unknown. The investigation believes that the motive for the murder is a property dispute. Lung Mei Village in Tai Po was rented by Kwong's father. It cannot be ruled out that Kwong's father was the mastermind of the murder. Although Kwong's mother knew about it, she did not do it.

The murder case was carefully arranged. The walls and windows of the village house used for dismemberment were hung with canvas, and a batch of dismemberment tools were placed; Masks, etc., the corpse was chopped up, boiled to deodorize, and taken to a distant place to be disposed of as soup dregs, but the head, body, and hands of the deceased have not yet been found.
TLDR

1, Abby is not gold digger, she was borned rich from China.

2, Abby is not legally married with current husband, and financially independent between current husband.

3, Ex-Father in law (ex police) is the Mastermind
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QUOTE(quintesson @ Feb 25 2023, 01:19 PM)
Why ex husband side want to kill her for money? Whose money is concerning? Since she is rich then she don't need the money from the ex husband side.
Her ex husband is handsome and young but never could have imagine he can do such thing.
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QUOTE(Matchy @ Feb 25 2023, 02:27 PM)
maybe they kill her so that she can't sell the property. (since it is under her ex-FIL name)
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QUOTE(red streak @ Feb 25 2023, 03:19 PM)
Can't trust your family or even spouse when it comes to these things. Money > all.
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From all the updates to date ..... this is a classic case of convenience lead to dispute and ultimately death ........ most likely when she in good terms with ex that time wanted to avoid stamp duty, so conveniently utilize ex's family member for the deal ..... (this could be before the divorce) .....

Then when things is not so nice term d she want to take back what she view was rightfully hers ......

But to the ex's family they see her as 打完素不要和尚 (Finish pray don't wanna pay) ..... and only used them for her own benefit ..... potentially the ex's father could have use the property to borrow loan or something that tied the house down, if that is the case when she try to sell it its gonna wreck havoc financially to the ex's family. Hence the murder plot. If the ex's family don't have to rely on those money and property maybe they wouldn't reach this point of killing her.

Gold digger or not idk, self rich or not I also dk .... but one thing is for sure, married to the son of police chief, then to a tycoon's son (married but not registered?!?) .... it seems pretty clear her path is to climb to be in influential status, power as prime, money 2nd. Kinda like big mama ....
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post Feb 25 2023, 04:15 PM

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QUOTE(e46 @ Feb 25 2023, 04:00 PM)
hmnnn the ex's father just a medium ranked police, not the chief (google translate went wrong), from the latest news the ex-husband is jobless for a long time and also involved in a gold investment scam, already listed as a wanted person from police long before this murder.

from all the news gathered, abby looks like an angel, married to a useless MK boy, give him and his family a comfortable lifestyle during & after marriage. definately not gold digger. btw, she is mother of 4 (2 with ex and 2 with current husband) and she's just 28, rare gems.
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Buddy with aron kowk's wife leh ..... stand next to donny leh ..... join every fashion event leh ...... idk about gold digger, but certainly a power climber ..... as in like she will hop to next mountain that is higher then current tycoon ..... there is nothing wrong to try to climb to the top of the social ladder ..... just tellin that she is that type .....
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post Feb 25 2023, 07:10 PM

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QUOTE(iGamer @ Feb 25 2023, 06:09 PM)
Flipper soft rice king…

Anyway, divorcee with 2 kids also can marry into HK super rich family? hmm.gif
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From news seems like she also super rich ...... tycoon son where got care one, sentuh you sikit dah ready to pancut liao .....

But the weird part is wedding ceremony done .... but legally not sign as married ...... yet still bare 2 kids for tycoon son ...... maybe tycoon no accept her? Idk la her life is also complicated from the start.
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post Feb 28 2023, 03:20 AM

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They better confess and rot in jail. Any slightest chance they could get away they will be dead before they reach any escape ....... from rumors very influential rich ppl, underground mob boss ...... even taiwan mob boss is aiming for their heads. Some even offer taking them out for free ...

 

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