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Wedchar2912
post Feb 3 2023, 04:44 PM

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so cannot show on TV or youtube also?
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post Feb 3 2023, 04:46 PM

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He explained that these celebrations are defined as religious rituals under the fatwa as they are “exclusive” to Hindus.


So powerful statement. He gets to define the rituals are exclusive to who.
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post Feb 3 2023, 04:47 PM

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QUOTE(Wedchar2912 @ Feb 3 2023, 04:44 PM)
so cannot show on TV or youtube also?
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u also same bodoh like ts
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post Feb 3 2023, 04:48 PM

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Now it sounds more like you pray time, i dont come.

You makan time, i will come.

Effective time management.
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post Feb 3 2023, 04:49 PM

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The keyword to highlight is not to participate in the religious part of the celebration.

Setakat nak tengok tu should not be a problem.
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post Feb 3 2023, 04:49 PM

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in majilis.. also usually start with doa..
so now all-nons also muz not attend?
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post Feb 3 2023, 05:09 PM

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QUOTE(and85rew @ Feb 3 2023, 03:08 PM)
Did you even read mike?
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did u even read other thread said by sultan?

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post Feb 3 2023, 05:18 PM

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QUOTE(M4A1 @ Feb 3 2023, 05:09 PM)
did u even read other thread said by sultan?
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Do u read the other article?
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QUOTE(and85rew @ Feb 3 2023, 05:18 PM)
Do u read the other article?
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read la what sultan said

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post Feb 3 2023, 05:20 PM

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QUOTE(M4A1 @ Feb 3 2023, 05:19 PM)
read la what sultan said

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Yes..that means this article is misleading
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QUOTE(azarimy @ Feb 3 2023, 02:50 PM)
Poor translation.

Original said "not allowed to attend and participate".

Siapa kata banned from watching? Habis tu macamana nak elak perarakan nanti?
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post Feb 3 2023, 05:23 PM

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Johor Ruler to attend Thaipusam celebrations in Skudai

Friday, 03 Feb 2023

1:33 PM MYT

JOHOR BARU: Johor Ruler Sultan Ibrahim Ibni Almarhum Sultan Iskandar will attend the state-level Thaipusam celebrations at Arulmigu Sri Balasubramaniar temple in Skudai here.

It is learnt that this would be His Majesty's first visit to the temple to witness the Thaipusam celebrations, which will be held this Sunday (Feb 5).

This would also be the first time in three years following the Covid-19 pandemic that Sultan Ibrahim will attend Thaipusam celebrations.

The last time His Majesty attended the celebrations was in 2019 at Arulmigu Thendayuthapani temple in Wadi Hana here.


Sri Balasubramaniar temple chairman Datuk S. Balakrishnan confirmed Sultan Ibrahim’s attendance at the Thaipusam celebrations.

"His Majesty will be coming to the temple to witness the celebrations at 11am this Sunday. Other state leaders will also be joining Sultan Ibrahim including Mentri Besar Datuk Onn Hafiz Ghazi.

"About 10,000 devotees will be present during the celebrations, which will be held in a grand manner following the easing of Covid-19 restrictions," he said when contacted on Friday (Feb 3).

On Thursday (Feb 2), state Islamic religious affairs committee chairman Mohd Fared Mohd Khalid said Muslims in Johor were allowed to attend celebrations held by people of other faiths, but should not take part in their religious rituals.

Citing open houses, weddings and funerals as examples, he said Muslims were permitted to attend such events if they were invited.

This was based on the opinions of a number of Muslim scholars who stated that the law of accepting invitations to non-Muslim celebrations, such as open houses, was both necessary and permissible.

"In this context, organisers of non-Muslim celebrations should be sensitive and ensure the sensitivity of Muslims is respected in line with Islam’s position as the federal religion and the official religion of Johor," he said at a press conference pertaining to the fatwa.

He said the Johor Ruler had consented to the fatwa, which forbids Muslims in the state from taking part in the rituals of other faiths.

"Under the fatwa, Muslims have been banned and prohibited from participating in non-Islamic celebration rituals, which include those performed in religious houses of worship or other places.

"However, Muslims are allowed to fulfil invitations to a non-Islamic celebration but should not be involved in any ritual ceremony related to the practice of other faiths," he added.

https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2023...tions-in-skudai

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post Feb 3 2023, 05:25 PM

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QUOTE(sunami @ Feb 3 2023, 04:43 PM)
if i say...
you are not allowed to drink apple juice AND orange juice...
what does that mean?  whistling.gif  whistling.gif  whistling.gif
so...i can either attend or participate but not both at the same time?  laugh.gif
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More like order AND drink 1 juice.

I attend wedding doesn't mean I participate in getting wed. Mebbe I go there mabuk only instead of celebrate the couple wedding whistling.gif
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post Feb 3 2023, 05:26 PM

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so...do muslim get cuti this coming monday ke tak?
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post Feb 3 2023, 05:32 PM

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QUOTE(BS8110 @ Feb 3 2023, 04:49 PM)
The keyword to highlight is not to participate in the religious part of the celebration.

Setakat nak tengok tu should not be a problem.
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Non yang menggelupur doh.gif
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post Feb 3 2023, 05:36 PM

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Observe means "practice", not "watching/stand beside and watch".

"Practicing a custom" is called "observe a custom".
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QUOTE(and85rew @ Feb 3 2023, 05:20 PM)
Yes..that means this article is misleading
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post Feb 3 2023, 05:42 PM

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QUOTE(Darkspreader @ Feb 3 2023, 02:59 PM)
observe Thaipusam processions ≠ watching Thaipusam processions

observe in this context is to celebrate/partake, doesn't mean cannot watch people celebrate.
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post Feb 3 2023, 05:50 PM

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QUOTE(knumskul @ Feb 3 2023, 06:25 PM)
More like order AND drink 1 juice.

I attend wedding doesn't mean I participate in getting wed. Mebbe I go there mabuk only instead of celebrate the couple wedding  whistling.gif
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if so........just one...you are not allowed to participate...
y the redundancy with a AND? whistling.gif whistling.gif whistling.gif whistling.gif

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post Feb 3 2023, 05:56 PM

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QUOTE(failed.hashcheck @ Feb 3 2023, 04:47 PM)
u also same bodoh like ts
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you sure?

got people go to non-halal restaurant and still accidentally eat things not supposed to eat. but blame others...

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