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 So if you got no looks and $$$,can still get girl?, Question time

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post Feb 7 2023, 02:54 PM

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QUOTE(jaycee1 @ Feb 7 2023, 12:32 PM)
Haha...right on sis.

TS needs to dig deep into what makes a girl tick. Ultimately all girls want is a father figure or what they think or wish thier father could be to thier mom. Read the musings of Carl Yung and the Electra Complex.

No point TS goes after girls that want a rich guy or a good looking man....he's playing out of his league and girls that want that hasn't really figured out what's really important in a life partner.

That said, I'm not discounting the biological and cultural  precedents of putting emphasis on wealth and appearance. It certainly helps your case to have either or both. But that's not the end of the world if you don't.

Do you have a sense of humour? are you well read and spoken? Can you whip up a Michelin star meal? Are you willing to help with house chores as a family man taking care of the household? Some people will inevitably say you are a beta to do it but I can assure you, if a girl finds an alpha willing to go to that level to do those things for her, I'm sure you find many girls wet between the legs for you.
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What book is that?
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post Feb 7 2023, 03:18 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Feb 7 2023, 02:54 PM)
What book is that?
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LOL

I wrote that as a joke.

But if you are really interested, you can just do a Google search for Carl Yung, Theory of Psychoanalysis. Jung was a swiss psychiatrist. Jung proposed this as the opposite of Freud's male Oedipus complex.


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QUOTE(jaycee1 @ Feb 7 2023, 03:18 PM)
LOL

I wrote that as a joke.

But if you are really interested, you can just do a Google search for Carl Yung, Theory of Psychoanalysis. Jung was a swiss psychiatrist. Jung proposed this as the opposite of Freud's male Oedipus complex.
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I Google and saw psychoanalysis. I think a bit deep for me. Lol.

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post Feb 7 2023, 04:03 PM

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QUOTE(sweet_pez @ Feb 7 2023, 12:04 PM)
I like the way you think.
Men who cooks and clean get the upper hand anytime! At least in my books laugh.gif
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But TS will probably say he cant show off his cooking and cleaning skills..girls already reject him for his looks.


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QUOTE(sweet_pez @ Feb 7 2023, 11:38 AM)
Hahahahaha why compare yourself to this guy who makes you feel bad? "Many girls" is just your stereotype because of 1 case that you know. What about the other 99 couples that you know?

Ever heard of the saying that goes: the best investment you can make is in yourself? So invest in yourself.
What does this mean? Upskill yourself. A man who is knowledgeable or has a variety of skills is charming. This meaning reading books that'll benefit you/ enrolling in courses with things to learn etc. Self improvement is so crucial these days if you're looking for quality lifestyle. People who don't keep up will be left behind. So yeah while looks will probably get that person halfway somewhere but still, if you're looking for long term relationship, personality and the depth of a person's character still matters imo.

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Additional points <<since you were harping about looks>>

- Grooming: Decent haircut which don't even require high expenses. Shave (or not, depending on your preference) if it's neater for you.

- Clothes: Appear neat & tidy. Fashion didn't have to be expensive or overdoing it. When you have the extra budget (ie. from bonus), get yourself some decent top or pants. Even IGR/ Tik Tok has multiple fashion tips on the kind of matching clothes you can play around with.

- Physique: If you think you're overweight, try to reduce some weight so you'll feel better about yourself and gain some confidence.

Also, even if you think you don't look good - it may not be the case for some ladies out there. Perhaps 1 tip that can help... try to enhance your appearance by making sure your face is clear from blemishes/ acne etc. Go to the dermatologist if you have skin issues and get them rectified. The more confident you feel about yourself, the more attractive you'll appear. And seriously, who doesn't like a confident person? (well, don't be overconfident though or that may seem snobbish).

Now ask yourself how much effort you're willing to put in to look better. If you're going to keep using physical trait as an excuse, then you're doomed to fall back into this loop every time you fail to meet someone.
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Let's see, where do I start this. Now, in my age and aim I am looking at finding and maintaining a long-term relationship and not just a hit and run kind. So let me being very objective and analyse this:

1. Yes, we can do everything in the world to better ourselves but are we in the running against those MUCH MUCH WAY WAY BETTER OFF people?

2. In an easy rationing, almost every man in their 30s or 20s know how to do basic house chores. Maybe 7 out of 10 from them. So if I am part of the 7, what makes me stand out? Back to either looks or money, right? Impossible it's about good character all, I find those very not logical. If then say 4 out of the 7 has good character, how does the girl choose? Eeny meeny miny mo?

3. You said that I am looking at the wrong pool, so tell me, where do we find such a pool? And also, MANY MANY BUAYA out there also looking for this pool so again, what can make normal average joes like us stand out? Looks and money again right?

4. At the end, we have to remember that if we don't stand out from others, why would a girl choose us? Simple, just to settle most probably and what happens if another better one comes knocking? Say bye bye to us.

I am not being negative here but I am seeing too many examples of girls going off with guys who are better off (in terms of looks or money) even when they had a loving partner. Yes, I don't know their story but for some I do and it ain't pretty.


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post Feb 8 2023, 07:21 PM

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TS, traditional match making is one of the a possible solution. I just don't know why the current generation is so against it. Some ppl can compete in the competitive environment, some people just can't.

If you want to display your inner beauty, you need a lot of time exposure. A lot of time exposure means your potential candidate can only comes from the places you appear daily - like work places, your living community / neighbors , religious house, hobby club, etc. Anything outside of this, you will not get your time exposure & you will not be able to display the inner beauty.


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QUOTE(nihility @ Feb 8 2023, 07:21 PM)
TS, traditional match making is one of the a possible solution. I just don't know why the current generation is so against it. Some ppl can compete in the competitive environment, some people just can't.

If you want to display your inner beauty, you need a lot of time exposure. A lot of time exposure means your potential candidate can only comes from the places you appear daily - like work places, your living community / neighbors , religious house, hobby club, etc. Anything outside of this, you will not get your time exposure &  you will not be able to display the inner beauty.
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I totally agree to this. That's why I said it's not possible to have girls look beyond our looks for the inner beauty from going socialising.
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QUOTE(gundamsp01 @ Feb 4 2023, 11:14 AM)
share my experience, to be frank, i rarely see gold digger in real life, maybe i dont mingle with people who drink.

And some girls that i friend with, they told me that, a good man as in treat gf good, can cook, spend time with partner etc. Yes, all these traits are things that most girls always say they want. But in the end, it is just added point.

The kind of points that can be added if you have a acceptable look, height and good humor.

I was enlightened that i know why i lost out in dating market. I can't even meet the minimum requirement of look and/or charm. Lol
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Wait, who defined these requirements?

You know, there is no standard requirements, everyone have their own set of “requirements”

There are saying such as beauty in the eyes of beholder, one man’s meat is another man’s poison.

So, why you think you can’t even meet the minimum requirement? When there is no standardisation of the requirements?

Additionally, you seems to know your weakness, did you strive to improve yourself on that part?

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QUOTE(MasBoleh! @ Feb 9 2023, 04:11 AM)
Wait, who defined these requirements?

You know, there is no standard requirements, everyone have their own set of “requirements”

There are saying such as beauty in the eyes of beholder, one man’s meat is another man’s poison.

So, why you think you can’t even meet the minimum requirement? When there is no standardisation of the requirements?

Additionally, you seems to know your weakness, did you strive to improve yourself on that part?[/B]
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what i think about myself is has no meaning when the opposite sex doesn't think the same way. laugh.gif
You mean improve on my look/charisma? look wise, can't really improve, ugly is ugly, only thing is making myself look ok level, but that is not enough apparently. Charisma wise, nah, hard to change personality.
inner beauty means jack shit nowadays, if inner beauty is that important, there wouldn't be so many girls complain about their "bad" bf out there.

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QUOTE(gundamsp01 @ Feb 9 2023, 08:12 AM)
what i think about myself is has no meaning when the opposite sex doesn't think the same way.  laugh.gif
You mean improve on my look/charisma? look wise, can't really improve, ugly is ugly, only thing is making myself look ok level, but that is not enough apparently. Charisma wise, nah, hard to change personality.
inner beauty means jack shit nowadays, if inner beauty is that important, there wouldn't be so many girls complain about their "bad" bf out there.
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I am sure you have girls interested in you but you are not interest at them perhaps due to them been unattractive to you?
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QUOTE(MasBoleh! @ Feb 9 2023, 09:24 AM)
I am sure you have girls interested in you but you are not interest at them perhaps due to them been unattractive to you?
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so far none, besides, my circle is small, as i only talk to colleagues, hence didn't think much about it.
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QUOTE(gundamsp01 @ Feb 9 2023, 09:33 AM)
so far none, besides, my circle is small, as i only talk to colleagues, hence didn't think much about it.
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That means your data pool is not large enough to be accurate.

Instead of accepting what you think is the reality and fact, perhaps you may try to widen your circles and hopefully your perception will change.

The thing is, once we accept we have been defeated then we really already defeated. No matter how bad the situation is, if we do not accept it, that means we are still in fight. And when we are still in fight in fighter mode, then there will always have opportunity to be ended up as winner.
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QUOTE(MasBoleh! @ Feb 9 2023, 09:44 AM)
That means your data pool is not large enough to be accurate.

Instead of accepting what you think is the reality and fact, perhaps you may try to widen your circles and hopefully your perception will change.

The thing is, once we accept we have been defeated then we really already defeated. No matter how bad the situation is, if we do not accept it, that means we are still in fight. And when we are still in fight in fighter mode, then there will always have opportunity to be ended up as winner.
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lol, but getting old (mid 30s), tried abit of dating app, didn't get any match, so i think it is sort of true?
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QUOTE(gundamsp01 @ Feb 9 2023, 09:47 AM)
lol, but getting old (mid 30s), tried abit of dating app, didn't get any match, so i think it is sort of true?
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A bit and not long, how to get result? You know what? You know you want something, then you have to be aggressive to get it. The fighting spirit!

If I am a girl, I see you so cynical. Is a huge turn off.
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QUOTE(MasBoleh! @ Feb 9 2023, 10:06 AM)
A bit and not long, how to get result? You know what? You know you want something, then you have to be aggressive to get it. The fighting spirit!

If I am a girl, I see you so cynical. Is a huge turn off.
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i would say chicken and egg situation. laugh.gif Anyway, all the best to you with the right positive mindset!
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QUOTE(gundamsp01 @ Feb 9 2023, 10:28 AM)
i would say chicken and egg situation.  laugh.gif  Anyway, all the best to you with the right positive mindset!
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Sometimes, we got no choice but to be positive. I think you shall meet me, then you know I am actually under the same situation as you.
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We do need money to survive though, marriage, houses, kids, groceries, utility bills etc.

Some just looking for shortcut, go find a rich partner, got big house, nice cars, no need to worry about bills and groceries etc.

Some willing to work together, you do your parts and I do mine, that's what they said true love. There's some LYN users here shared their stories just like this.

I believe at lease few of us here saw or witness the above scenario before, they even show this in some TV dramas.

For the look or appearance, we can't disagree that it's an advantage over those average looking.
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QUOTE(gundamsp01 @ Feb 9 2023, 09:47 AM)
lol, but getting old (mid 30s), tried abit of dating app, didn't get any match, so i think it is sort of true?
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Mid 30s is old? Lol

U young Padawans

Im late 40s. Divorced like TS. After divorce, dated girls late 20s and early 30s yo.

Now GF is 17 years younger than me. Been exclusive with her more than 6 months.





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since when women prioritise looks when looking for a husband/partner??

if u say money, then i believe la

if u say looks, it's hard to believe, unless u r really really reallyyyy ugly


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QUOTE(Blofeld @ Feb 9 2023, 11:57 AM)
since when women prioritise looks when looking for a husband/partner??

if u say money, then i believe la

if u say looks, it's hard to believe, unless u r really really reallyyyy ugly
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I think TS is saying need to get the girl out on a date first. The first step to getting the girl out on the date is girl must be attracted to you physically. If you can't attach a girl physically, how is the girl going to come out with you? Just my guess.

Btw. I am neither rich or handsome and girls still want to come out with me. Lol. For me, I just be honest and myself. I have nothing to hide unlike bossku. Hahaha...

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