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TSrogue
post Jan 24 2023, 07:55 AM, updated 3y ago

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Hi and Gong Xi Fa Cai to everyone.. this topic is about Fiber Broadband/FTTH ISP with IPv6 support. I'm only aware that TM Unifi/Maxis hands out IPv6 addresses. So let's talk about the rest.

Digi | Celcom | Allo | TIME

Base on your experience and usage on any of the above Fiber broadband ISPs, do they have the following criteria:-

1. IPv6 address on WAN
2. Public IP or CGNAT IP on WAN
3. Do they use PPPoE, DHCP or Static on the WAN interface
4. Static or Dynamic Prefix Delegation for LAN (/56 or /64)
5. In terms of speed and stability, how good or bad is their IPv6 routing
6. Own router with custom firmware with their service (Merlin, Mikrotik, OpenWRT, DD-WRT, PFSense, OPNSense, etc)

Please provide feedback below. Thanks.

This post has been edited by rogue: Jan 24 2023, 07:57 AM
joeyrm
post Jan 25 2023, 02:04 PM

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This is my observation for Digi Home fiber on TM infra.

1. IPv6 address on WAN
Yes
2. Public IP or CGNAT IP on WAN
CGNAT for IPv4 only.
3. Do they use PPPoE, DHCP or Static on the WAN interface
PPPoE
4. Static or Dynamic Prefix Delegation for LAN (/56 or /64)
/64 for WAN (IPv6 Prefix), another /64 for LAN (IPv6 delegate prefix)
5. In terms of speed and stability, how good or bad is their IPv6 routing
Honestly not sure, seems to be ok for local websites
6. Own router with custom firmware with their service (Merlin, Mikrotik, OpenWRT, DD-WRT, PFSense, OPNSense, etc)
Used previously with ZTE router, eventually upgraded to TPLink and now using AsusWRT. No issue getting ipv6 assignment

failed.hashcheck
post Jan 25 2023, 08:51 PM

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Celcom Fiber.

1. IPv6 address on WAN
Yes and No. incomplete or broken implementation. Router gets functional ipv6 when requested, but it's not delegated to lan. (dhcp pd not responding? idk never did wireshark)

2. Public IP or CGNAT IP on WAN
Both.

3. Do they use PPPoE, DHCP or Static on the WAN interface
PPPoE

4. Static or Dynamic Prefix Delegation for LAN (/56 or /64)
nil (/64 wan)

5. In terms of speed and stability, how good or bad is their IPv6 routing
On par with v4 when tested in router. But since it's broken on lan anyway so its moot.

6. Own router with custom firmware with their service (Merlin, Mikrotik, OpenWRT, DD-WRT, PFSense, OPNSense, etc)
Merlin

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papyrous
post Jan 25 2023, 09:03 PM

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QUOTE(failed.hashcheck @ Jan 25 2023, 08:51 PM)
Celcom Fiber.

1. IPv6 address on WAN
Yes and No. incomplete or broken implementation. Router gets functional ipv6 when requested, but it's not delegated to lan.

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how is your IPv6 setup like?
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post Jan 25 2023, 09:17 PM

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QUOTE(papyrous @ Jan 25 2023, 09:03 PM)
how is your IPv6 setup like?
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Similar to Unifi. SLAAC, DHCP-PD with RA enabled.
osxchd
post May 22 2023, 09:34 AM

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TIME Fibre

1. IPv6 address on WAN
No idea
2. Public IP or CGNAT IP on WAN
No idea
3. Do they use PPPoE, DHCP or Static on the WAN interface
PPPoE IPv4, DHCP IPv6
4. Static or Dynamic Prefix Delegation for LAN (/56 or /64)
Can't even confirm
5. In terms of speed and stability, how good or bad is their IPv6 routing
Not setup yet
6. Own router with custom firmware with their service (Merlin, Mikrotik, OpenWRT, DD-WRT, PFSense, OPNSense, etc)
pfSense


I got into a chat with TIME support yesterday, the reply was the tech support will call me.

Tech support called but they were not able to answer me simple question with IPv6 setup. I asked IPv6 Delegation? He replied either 48/64.

Anyway, is there any kind soul be able to guide me to set it up?

Thank you.
Anime4000
post May 23 2023, 09:04 AM

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TIME and Maxis

1. IPv6 address on WAN
> YES and each device have own public IPv6

2. Public IP or CGNAT IP on WAN
> Pubic IPv4 is Available (Maxis need request with additional RM10)

3. Do they use PPPoE, DHCP or Static on the WAN interface
> PPPoE

4. Static or Dynamic Prefix Delegation for LAN (/56 or /64)
> Dynamic /64 with 3 days lease

5. In terms of speed and stability, how good or bad is their IPv6 routing
> Both are good, fewer IX/Hops to 1.1.1.1 server compared with IPv4

6. Own router with custom firmware with their service (Merlin, Mikrotik, OpenWRT, DD-WRT, PFSense, OPNSense, etc)
> Mikrotik

TIME & Maxis
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post May 23 2023, 11:32 AM

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QUOTE(Anime4000 @ May 23 2023, 09:04 AM)
2. Public IP or CGNAT IP on WAN
> Pubic IPv4 is Available (Maxis need request with additional RM10)
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* TIME 100Mbps is Private, with Public available on request, no charge
tcwan
post May 24 2023, 03:34 PM

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As far as I know, no ISP offers /56 for home users.

IPv6 for home users is dead to me until we get better support than /64 prefixes. I run several VLANs internally and there is no good way to route them over IPv6 to the WAN side without lots of trickery.

This post has been edited by tcwan: May 24 2023, 03:36 PM
GameSky
post May 25 2023, 01:03 PM

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QUOTE(rogue @ Jan 24 2023, 07:55 AM)
Hi and Gong Xi Fa Cai to everyone.. this topic is about Fiber Broadband/FTTH ISP with IPv6 support. I'm only aware that TM Unifi/Maxis hands out IPv6 addresses. So let's talk about the rest.

Digi | Celcom | Allo | TIME

Base on your experience and usage on any of the above Fiber broadband ISPs, do they have the following criteria:-

1. IPv6 address on WAN
2. Public IP or CGNAT IP on WAN
3. Do they use PPPoE, DHCP or Static on the WAN interface
4. Static or Dynamic Prefix Delegation for LAN (/56 or /64)
5. In terms of speed and stability, how good or bad is their IPv6 routing
6. Own router with custom firmware with their service (Merlin, Mikrotik, OpenWRT, DD-WRT, PFSense, OPNSense, etc)

Please provide feedback below. Thanks.
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Just recently signup with CelcomDigi (Digi) Fibre

1. IPv6 address on WAN
Public, each device got their own ipv6

2. Public IP or CGNAT IP on WAN
CGNAT

3. Do they use PPPoE, DHCP or Static on the WAN interface
PPPOE

4. Static or Dynamic Prefix Delegation for LAN (/56 or /64)
/64

5. In terms of speed and stability, how good or bad is their IPv6 routing
Should be almost the same, just when point cloudflare/adguard it will always route via JP server instead of singapore.
For dns queries, I noticed digi will keep intercept dns request, as in dns proxy even tho you've setup manual dns to cloudflare/googledns n so on. The only other way is by using dnscrypt, dnstls or whichever encrypts your dns queries.


6. Own router with custom firmware with their service (Merlin, Mikrotik, OpenWRT, DD-WRT, PFSense, OPNSense, etc)
Merlinwrt, openwrt

This post has been edited by GameSky: May 25 2023, 01:04 PM
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post Jun 17 2023, 10:16 AM

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QUOTE(tcwan @ May 24 2023, 03:34 PM)
As far as I know, no ISP offers /56 for home users.

IPv6 for home users is dead to me until we get better support than /64 prefixes. I run several VLANs internally and there is no good way to route them over IPv6 to the WAN side without lots of trickery.
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Yeah... about that, I guess the only ways I'm aware of to give IPv6 connectivity to all the VLANs are
1. Tunnel Broker
2. VPS with a decent allocation, tunnelling to that
3. Somehow getting a PI address allocation somehow, and tunnelling to something that can route it to you.
4. NAT66

So far on my openwrt router, I've set up PD for the main LAN, and nat66 using ULA addresses for the rest. It's... not ideal.. but ISPs are being shit with the routed prefixes... I'm jealous of all those people I see online with ISPs that give a static /56. ranting.gif
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post Sep 20 2023, 03:02 PM

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QUOTE(GameSky @ May 25 2023, 01:03 PM)
Just recently signup with CelcomDigi (Digi) Fibre

1. IPv6 address on WAN
Public, each device got their own ipv6

2. Public IP or CGNAT IP on WAN
CGNAT

3. Do they use PPPoE, DHCP or Static on the WAN interface
PPPOE

4. Static or Dynamic Prefix Delegation for LAN (/56 or /64)
/64

5. In terms of speed and stability, how good or bad is their IPv6 routing
Should be almost the same, just when point cloudflare/adguard it will always route via JP server instead of singapore.
For dns queries, I noticed digi will keep intercept dns request, as in dns proxy even tho you've setup manual dns to cloudflare/googledns n so on. The only other way is by using dnscrypt, dnstls or whichever encrypts your dns queries.


6. Own router with custom firmware with their service (Merlin, Mikrotik, OpenWRT, DD-WRT, PFSense, OPNSense, etc)
Merlinwrt, openwrt
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I'm preparing to move from Maxis Fibre to CelcomDigi.
My biggest drawback was the public IP restriction.
According to your observation, does that mean that I can access from the WAN using IPv6 for my Home Assistant?
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post Feb 21 2024, 01:27 PM

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All, I'm trying to setup PFSENSE with DiGi Fiber on IPV6.
Wondering who has come across this earlier and succeeded?


 

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