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 BMW LCI G20 320i vs 330i vs 330e, BMW LCI G20

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hungrygodzilla
post Feb 15 2023, 04:48 PM

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QUOTE(bert3227 @ Feb 14 2023, 02:25 PM)
Also - I am considering both 330i and 330e and have been really indecisive about it.

330i - the only thing that I wish it has is the adaptive suspension. The passive is too stiff for my liking on 90% of the usage. If it comes with adaptive, then the choice is easy.

330e - I consider this because it has the adaptive suspension (maybe a stupid reason for a lot of people?). Not really concerned on the FC or RV but more on the reliability (more problems?) and I have a noob question - going on a long trip like 700 - 800km, start with full charge, but will it end up dragging the extra weight with absolutely no hybrid advantage if do not re-charge during the 700 - 800km drive? Or it will still have the benefit as it recharges itself? I am talking about a "normal" drive, highway maybe keeping it at 110km - 130km... occasional speed up but that might be just 10% of it....
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Yes, you might burn more petrol with the extra weight. But let's be realistic la, why are you worried about FC with the current RON95 price? If you are worried about FC then you should get proper FC efficient car. Say 2l per 100km different in FC, it's RM4+ for 100km. if you travel 2000km per month, it's RM80+ different. Given that you can afford 330i or 330e, RM80+ is barely a slightly good meal with your partner, and how many good meals you have each mth without thinking much?

RV definitely not amazing la, i'll rather buy a slightly used authorized 2nd hand, maybe demo or manager car.
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post Feb 15 2023, 05:23 PM

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QUOTE(hungrygodzilla @ Feb 15 2023, 04:48 PM)
Yes, you might burn more petrol with the extra weight. But let's be realistic la, why are you worried about FC with the current RON95 price? If you are worried about FC then you should get proper FC efficient car. Say 2l per 100km different in FC, it's RM4+ for 100km. if you travel 2000km per month, it's RM80+ different. Given that you can afford 330i or 330e, RM80+ is barely a slightly good meal with your partner, and how many good meals you have each mth without thinking much?

RV definitely not amazing la, i'll rather buy a slightly used authorized 2nd hand, maybe demo or manager car.
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yes agree with you, I think FC is not an issue, even for me as my company is paying for the fuel. But what the 330e has that the 330i doesn't is the adaptive suspension.
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post Feb 15 2023, 08:24 PM

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QUOTE(chriscym @ Feb 15 2023, 05:23 PM)
yes agree with you, I think FC is not an issue, even for me as my company is paying for the fuel. But what the 330e has that the 330i doesn't is the adaptive suspension.
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Maybe a Mercedes will be better for you if you are into comfortable drive
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post Feb 15 2023, 09:36 PM

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QUOTE(hungrygodzilla @ Feb 15 2023, 04:48 PM)
Yes, you might burn more petrol with the extra weight. But let's be realistic la, why are you worried about FC with the current RON95 price? If you are worried about FC then you should get proper FC efficient car. Say 2l per 100km different in FC, it's RM4+ for 100km. if you travel 2000km per month, it's RM80+ different. Given that you can afford 330i or 330e, RM80+ is barely a slightly good meal with your partner, and how many good meals you have each mth without thinking much?

RV definitely not amazing la, i'll rather buy a slightly used authorized 2nd hand, maybe demo or manager car.
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As mentioned, I am not concerned on the FC/RV. The question on the highway cruising without charge is for me to understand how it works under that condition/circumstance (that's why I said "benefit" rather than consumption, for example, do I still get that "instant torque" etc) smile.gif
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post Feb 15 2023, 09:57 PM

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QUOTE(BigMan123 @ Feb 15 2023, 08:24 PM)
Maybe a Mercedes will be better for you if you are into comfortable drive
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I guess sometimes it is not just purely which car/brand can overcome the shortcoming that we are concerned about (yes, it may not be a concern to another person, it could even be advantage). Merc may (I have not tried the W206) give u the comfort but it does not give you the rest of the things that a BMW offers. Sometimes it is also brand preferences to certain extend where we try to find ways to make it "work" within a brand, hoping that will be a solution (like BMW will eventually offer adaptive on 330i or get convinced that the passive is not that bad or hey... PHEV actually has no issue at all)... I guess that's the fun part about throwing the so called "concern" in the forum so others with actual experiences on either of those cars can comment or feedback if those concerns are even valid.... or if they came across the same and how they overcame it and got to the decision that they have made...

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hungrygodzilla
post Feb 16 2023, 01:24 PM

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QUOTE(BigMan123 @ Feb 15 2023, 08:24 PM)
Maybe a Mercedes will be better for you if you are into comfortable drive
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I would suggest Volvo S60 / V60 if looking for comfort drive

QUOTE(bert3227 @ Feb 15 2023, 09:36 PM)
As mentioned, I am not concerned on the FC/RV. The question on the highway cruising without charge is for me to understand how it works under that condition/circumstance (that's why I said "benefit" rather than consumption, for example, do I still get that "instant torque" etc) smile.gif
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They hybrid is pretty much useless on highway (talking about long distance highway not the KL city highway), i would switch to pure ICE mode when i go over 80km/h, unless its a short journey or journey within my hybrid / pure battery range. In fact I do charge the car with the engine when im on highway (JB - KL), to prepare the car for jam around seremban area. In jam i either go hybrid or pure EV, depending on the speed of traffic. Summary, for me, hybrid / EV useful in city, slow or jam traffic, instant torque also not super nice / fun in this scenario, just wanna find some comfort in jam. High speed just a waste of battery. Instant torque is fun only when you wanted to have some fun and the road / traffic condition allows.

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romuluz777
post Mar 16 2023, 01:15 PM

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The 330i M-Sport now comes standard with M Adaptive suspension.
Makes this a more attractive proposition as compared to the 330e hybrid, aside from the price.
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post Mar 16 2023, 06:59 PM

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330i now with adaptive suspension is a good alternative to 330e
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post Mar 20 2023, 11:50 AM

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exactly i think now the issue with 330i harsh suspension is fixed with adaptive suspension. so the option between 330i and 330e is very clear and more fairly comparable.

Besides for those who can enjoy corporate fleet discount , 330e is not eligible for it, while 330i is eligible for 4% rebate.

I tested the 330i LCI with M sport suspension, actually I think the ride is acceptable for me, knowing the fact this is a sports sedan, there should be some compromise on comfort, but I am sure also many cant accept the harshness of the ride. But the M Adaptive Suspension came in the right time that I decided to opt for 330i with M Adaptive Suspension.

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post Mar 20 2023, 03:53 PM

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QUOTE(chriscym @ Mar 20 2023, 12:50 PM)
exactly i think now the issue with 330i harsh suspension is fixed with adaptive suspension. so the option between 330i and 330e is very clear and more fairly comparable.

Besides for those who can enjoy corporate fleet discount , 330e is not eligible for it, while 330i is eligible for 4% rebate.

I tested the 330i LCI with M sport suspension, actually I think the ride is acceptable for me, knowing the fact this is a sports sedan, there should be some compromise on comfort, but I am sure also many cant accept the harshness of the ride. But the M Adaptive Suspension came in the right time that I decided to opt for 330i with M Adaptive Suspension.
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Any idea when a 330i test drive car with the M-Active Susp will be available ?
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post Mar 20 2023, 04:33 PM

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QUOTE(romuluz777 @ Mar 20 2023, 03:53 PM)
Any idea when a 330i test drive car with the M-Active Susp will be available ?
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no idea, some dealers doesnt have test drive cars also. I went to Auto Bavaria the one at Ara Damansara. U can check that dealer
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post Mar 20 2023, 09:37 PM

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QUOTE(romuluz777 @ Mar 20 2023, 03:53 PM)
Any idea when a 330i test drive car with the M-Active Susp will be available ?
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Apparently it is hard to find test drive car even before the update

Don't think they will have test car 330i with adaptive suspension so soon

I suggest u can test 330e for the suspension
And 330i for the power train

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