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post Jan 9 2023, 10:33 AM, updated 3y ago

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post Jan 9 2023, 10:34 AM

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higher quality?

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post Jan 9 2023, 10:35 AM

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Yes, higher quality and cheaper than Starbucks.
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post Jan 9 2023, 10:35 AM

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Sumpah never try. Still love CBTL
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post Jan 9 2023, 10:36 AM

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i use the app. nice UI, easy to use. Zus coffee also taste better
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post Jan 9 2023, 10:36 AM

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tak pernah try

sedap ka?


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post Jan 9 2023, 10:36 AM

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honestly speaking lah.... Zus coffee all taste bad becoz of the sugar they used... but i think they actually do earn more... becoz a lot of their outlet just sell coffee and no seats for ppl to lepak whole day.

Starbuck need expensive rental and always full of ppl that actually buy 1 coffee RM16++ and sit there 8 hrs.
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post Jan 9 2023, 10:36 AM

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Lol how come it looks like an MLM presentation instead?
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QUOTE(Raddus @ Jan 9 2023, 10:33 AM)
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Misleading chart is misleading.
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post Jan 9 2023, 10:38 AM

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QUOTE(0300078 @ Jan 9 2023, 10:36 AM)
honestly speaking lah.... Zus coffee all taste bad becoz of the sugar they used... but i think they actually do earn more... becoz a lot of their outlet just sell coffee and no seats for ppl to lepak whole day.

Starbuck need expensive rental and always full of ppl that actually buy 1 coffee RM16++ and sit there 8 hrs.
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yup, their latte without any sugar is good.
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post Jan 9 2023, 10:38 AM

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QUOTE(poweredbydiscuz @ Jan 9 2023, 10:36 AM)
Misleading chart is misleading.
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Very elon and steve jobs way of using buzzwords
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post Jan 9 2023, 10:38 AM

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Zus so so only. I think because it is “new” ?

Anyway, we should have our own national starbucks
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post Jan 9 2023, 10:38 AM

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between SUS and other coffee retails

personally, still prefer Starbucks alternative coffee is GiGi coffee.

tasted SUS and GiGi both before.. SUS taste super sweet and can't really taste coffee at all... boikot terus..

hahaha
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post Jan 9 2023, 10:39 AM

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ZUS less sweet = Setapak regular sweet = CBTL extra sweet
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QUOTE(Taikor.Taikun @ Jan 9 2023, 10:38 AM)
Zus so so only. I think because it is “new” ?

Anyway, we should have our own national starbucks
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post Jan 9 2023, 10:39 AM

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i am gigi supporter. sorry zus
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post Jan 9 2023, 10:39 AM

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it failed big time in china.
next step they have is to give tons of vouchers like buy one free one, extreme discounts, etc.

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post Jan 9 2023, 10:39 AM

eMPtiNess =`(
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Dunno y still prefer Starbucks LOL
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post Jan 9 2023, 10:40 AM

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Contribute more to diebetes number
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post Jan 9 2023, 10:40 AM

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U percaya that kind of graph ?
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tak pernah try

sedap ka?


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post Jan 9 2023, 10:40 AM

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zus cheap coffee taste like starbucks
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post Jan 9 2023, 10:41 AM

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Regular Zus coffee drinker here. Price wise, much better than Costa and Starbuck, obviously.

Taste wise, Zus is a bit burn but still taste a bit better than Starbuck. Tried GiGi before and I find it to be quite nice. Costa is stale nowadays. Others don't want to mention because there are not many branches of other brands around.

I drink coffee with no sugar btw.

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post Jan 9 2023, 10:41 AM

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i just dont get a cafe/restaurant that focus more on tech than the food/service itself.
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post Jan 9 2023, 10:41 AM

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Throw your life savings now?

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post Jan 9 2023, 10:42 AM

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starbucks blh sue Zus tak? using they logo without consent for public presentation?
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post Jan 9 2023, 10:42 AM

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Did zus kopi go in starbuck and get the numbers correct? Or sendiri draft based on hype ?
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post Jan 9 2023, 10:43 AM

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Never try before actually
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post Jan 9 2023, 10:43 AM

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their cake sucks ass tho
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post Jan 9 2023, 10:44 AM

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people just want cheap alternative sometimes

so ZUS and gigi are underdog
but if u buy coffee for the environment, of course setarbuck lah

for me, i'm cheap
i'd usually go for ZUS or sometimes wait MCD promo RM3 coffee

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post Jan 9 2023, 10:45 AM

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Zus nicer and cheaper
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QUOTE(Guenhwyvar @ Jan 9 2023, 10:36 AM)
Lol how come it looks like an MLM presentation instead?
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bagi chance la. malaysia company. new one sommore
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post Jan 9 2023, 10:45 AM

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QUOTE(rummage @ Jan 9 2023, 10:36 AM)
i use the app. nice UI, easy to use. Zus coffee also taste better
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so??? mcd byebye??
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post Jan 9 2023, 10:46 AM

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syok sendiri ada.
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QUOTE(0300078 @ Jan 9 2023, 10:36 AM)
honestly speaking lah.... Zus coffee all taste bad becoz of the sugar they used... but i think they actually do earn more... becoz a lot of their outlet just sell coffee and no seats for ppl to lepak whole day.

Starbuck need expensive rental and always full of ppl that actually buy 1 coffee RM16++ and sit there 8 hrs.
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Starbuck stick to their policies like comfy environment with elegant design thus it make ppl willing to pay premium price.
Zus going the mass opening strategy with kopitiam style environment. Work or not is very subjective depends on market acceptance.
Btw, most of the coffee lover I know, they prefer self-brew
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customer service kinda meh

too slow
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post Jan 9 2023, 10:47 AM

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Kinda skeptical on the 23 million cups served.

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post Jan 9 2023, 10:47 AM

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Both are trash. Disgrace to coffee drinkers
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post Jan 9 2023, 10:48 AM

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Need more states to ban 4d so berjaya can refocus on Starbucks business. wink.gif
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post Jan 9 2023, 10:48 AM

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QUOTE(Randomization @ Jan 9 2023, 10:39 AM)
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I got a mamak nearby served by robots. High tech liao
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post Jan 9 2023, 10:49 AM

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Why reviews on ZUS so polarizing one.

Some say not sweet some say super sweet.
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post Jan 9 2023, 10:49 AM

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QUOTE(0300078 @ Jan 9 2023, 10:36 AM)
honestly speaking lah.... Zus coffee all taste bad becoz of the sugar they used... but i think they actually do earn more... becoz a lot of their outlet just sell coffee and no seats for ppl to lepak whole day.

Starbuck need expensive rental and always full of ppl that actually buy 1 coffee RM16++ and sit there 8 hrs.
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Starbucks is a cybercafe but laptop self prepare.
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post Jan 9 2023, 10:50 AM

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the graph shows no number, only high and low

syok sendiri i guess
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post Jan 9 2023, 10:50 AM

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QUOTE(St0rmFury @ Jan 9 2023, 10:49 AM)
Why reviews on ZUS so polarizing one.

Some say not sweet some say super sweet.
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as a coffee lover, if all u can describe in a coffee is sweet or not sweet then u r better off drinking something else.
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post Jan 9 2023, 10:51 AM

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The graph correct la. It is not sales.
They are saying they do more delivery than starbucks which is correct.
Starbucks , people go and sit and drink at the store.


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post Jan 9 2023, 10:51 AM

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QUOTE(St0rmFury @ Jan 9 2023, 11:49 AM)
Why reviews on ZUS so polarizing one.

Some say not sweet some say super sweet.
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maybe those complain not sweet probably tongue already desensitized (read: cacat) from over indulgement in sweet food.



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post Jan 9 2023, 10:51 AM

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Too bad I don't see pipu queuing for zus.


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Macam luckin coffee je.
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post Jan 9 2023, 10:53 AM

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Zus so sweet and the amount they give is actually very little.

Good that Zus saw the opportunity and seized it.
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post Jan 9 2023, 10:53 AM

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All in into ZUS Coffee now, don't regret, year end 2023 = multi coffee lover addicted 101%...
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post Jan 9 2023, 10:56 AM

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QUOTE(toughguy @ Jan 9 2023, 10:35 AM)
Yes, higher quality and cheaper than Starbucks.
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You sure on the quality? I tried once and never the 2nd. I wonder its coffee or sweetener i had?

Starbuck still can find good outlets with good barista, specially stand alone

I don't mind paying more for a better seating environment sipping my coffee. Else, nothing beats making one at home

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most unicorn start up in malaysia wont last long.
Especially once investor money dry up.

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Zus ceo coffee is ok, others not worthy for my money

Gigi is better
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Used to like Zus, only because it was the relatively cheaper option compared to Starbucks and Coffeebean, but their quality of late (at my place at least) has been dropping, bad customer service at outlets, also that whole fiasco with their team responding to customer complaint on soc media just left a sour taste overall.
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Tried Zus but end up return to CBTL... Don't like the milk they are using at the moment.

I drink only latte/flat white so the taste of milk is very important
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post Jan 9 2023, 10:59 AM

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kopi uncang cap tubik besting. ZUS price will be same level as setarbak in near puture
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post Jan 9 2023, 11:01 AM

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used to be avid customer of starbucks when fraps was below RM8
now not any more. no longer patronize any coffee or boba tea chain

so i'm highly sus about their data
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QUOTE(thankyou @ Jan 9 2023, 10:57 AM)
Tried Zus but end up return to CBTL... Don't like the milk they are using at the moment.

I drink only latte/flat white so the taste of milk is very important
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post Jan 9 2023, 11:03 AM

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thanks too MCO , zus delivery sky rocketed and those waiting to pickup also pack during that’s time. But now seems to be slow to maybe half from their peak

and Tealive even worse

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post Jan 9 2023, 11:03 AM

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Actually if you think Zus makes good coffee, then you should just switch to McCafe. Zus latte is RM10.95, McCafe large latte is RM10.85. McCafe actually tastes better
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post Jan 9 2023, 11:04 AM

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QUOTE(frossonice @ Jan 9 2023, 10:41 AM)
Regular Zus coffee drinker here. Price wise, much better than Costa and Starbuck, obviously.

Taste wise, Zus is a bit burn but still taste a bit better than Starbuck. Tried GiGi before and I find it to be quite nice. Costa is stale nowadays. Others don't want to mention because there are not many branches of other brands around.

I drink coffee with no sugar btw.
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Different target market

Cannot compare

Setarbak still win
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QUOTE(Taikor.Taikun @ Jan 9 2023, 10:38 AM)
Zus so so only. I think because it is “new” ?

Anyway, we should have our own national starbucks
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zus is local
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post Jan 9 2023, 11:07 AM

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I went to coffee outlet just to order Americano or Cold Brew

I rarely ordered those fancy fancy like Green tea, machiatto nonsense.

If I want to judge whether the coffee is good or not, I tried their Americano first
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QUOTE(Justice Supreme @ Jan 9 2023, 11:06 AM)
zus is local
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Yes, we should at least support a local company, cost less, less capital outflow, more environmentally friendly
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Chek Hup > Coffee Bean > McCafe > Mamak (yang tiptop) > Starbucks > Mamak (yang kureng) > Zus

Edit: added McCafe, tertinggal tadi

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quality so-so with SBUX, but price is superb!!
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QUOTE(0300078 @ Jan 9 2023, 10:36 AM)
honestly speaking lah.... Zus coffee all taste bad becoz of the sugar they used... but i think they actually do earn more... becoz a lot of their outlet just sell coffee and no seats for ppl to lepak whole day.

Starbuck need expensive rental and always full of ppl that actually buy 1 coffee RM16++ and sit there 8 hrs.
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I drink my coffee black only.
If compared normal no sugar americano.
I prefer zus.


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QUOTE(kembayang @ Jan 9 2023, 10:39 AM)
ZUS less sweet = Setapak regular sweet = CBTL extra sweet
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Whether Starbucks coffee is better or not is irrelevant. The best margins come from branding and they're already way ahead.
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No good if you want to sit down and do work with laptop or maybe business chat.....
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2x tried. Tak sedap. Prefer Starbucks.
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QUOTE(Guenhwyvar @ Jan 9 2023, 10:36 AM)
Lol how come it looks like an MLM presentation instead?
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Seeking investor and IPO la tu.. typical la
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the problem with retail coffee shop is consistency

espresso needs to be calibrated, i think most of barista there dont give a damn about it but i could be wrong.

gigi can be great but it will differ from outlet to outlet.

so if you really want good coffee, go support your local cafe that knows how to run a cafe.

else just go to mynews or family mart. their coffee miles better than starbucks
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anyone can beat Starbucks at 3 damansara easily

just add more coffee beans and less sugar.
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ZUS sux. Even worst than SBUX.
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Usually I drink they cafe latte saja, I think better than Starbucks
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gigi > zus
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QUOTE(poweredbydiscuz @ Jan 9 2023, 10:36 AM)
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QUOTE(RagingCandy @ Jan 9 2023, 11:19 AM)
ZUS sux. Even worst than SBUX.
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Yeah as someone said sbux offers the Third place as a place to socialize mostly serving terrible or mediocre coffee
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But Zus coffee so so only. Gigi coffee is better and cheaper.
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compare ZUS and richiamo probably better..
cheaper solution is still mekdi, e-mart, cu mart or family mart..
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QUOTE(Taikor.Taikun @ Jan 9 2023, 11:10 AM)
Yes, we should at least support a local company, cost less, less capital outflow, more environmentally friendly
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if possible
else i support whoever has better quality with the most affordable pricing
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QUOTE(Guenhwyvar @ Jan 9 2023, 10:36 AM)
Lol how come it looks like an MLM presentation instead?
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they actually copy exactly like what lurkin coffee doing, just more moderate
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post Jan 9 2023, 11:29 AM

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Tealive coffee better
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i vouch this.

last time i used to frequent starbucks.
now more to ZUS. i like its app. very easy to use and got great rewards too.

ZUS ice latte NO SUGAR is the best for my tastebud.
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starbucks mcm mcdonalds. they are everywhere. they are huge. u sure zus can compete?

i see 20 starbucks before i see 1 zus.
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Make espresso or latte at home better


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but I do hope they put more on R&R tho, malaysia R&R is seriously crap
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post Jan 9 2023, 11:30 AM

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Lmao drinking beverage in order to continue slaving.
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post Jan 9 2023, 11:30 AM

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actually CBTL>ZUS>SBUX
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post Jan 9 2023, 11:31 AM

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Where is the news of Zus RIP?
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QUOTE(sanosizo @ Jan 9 2023, 10:34 AM)
higher quality?

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QUOTE(toughguy @ Jan 9 2023, 10:35 AM)
Yes, higher quality and cheaper than Starbucks.
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tried zus. really not my taste. starbucks is ok. but it has the best environment to sit and do work than any other places.
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post Jan 9 2023, 11:36 AM

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based on Apps, ZUS > Starbucks way alot,

Starbucks apps is pain in ass to use
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post Jan 9 2023, 11:37 AM

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Gigi coffee cheaper...i like their buttercream and indonesia bean
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post Jan 9 2023, 11:38 AM

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QUOTE(Ttbatdtptsm @ Jan 9 2023, 10:40 AM)
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no lol.

could be just like another wework or shopee.
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post Jan 9 2023, 11:39 AM

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post Jan 9 2023, 11:39 AM

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Omnichannel marketing is the new trend and ZUS is the perfect example

Even McD is doing that with app constantly pulling you to their store
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post Jan 9 2023, 11:40 AM

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Never heard of zus before. But the purpose of Starbucks ismmore than just coffee....

It's also a place to relax, chit chat and surf net etc...
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post Jan 9 2023, 11:40 AM

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QUOTE(Raddus @ Jan 9 2023, 10:33 AM)
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who's the owner of this company that can open so many branches in such a short time?
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post Jan 9 2023, 11:41 AM

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QUOTE(0300078 @ Jan 9 2023, 10:36 AM)
honestly speaking lah.... Zus coffee all taste bad becoz of the sugar they used... but i think they actually do earn more... becoz a lot of their outlet just sell coffee and no seats for ppl to lepak whole day.

Starbuck need expensive rental and always full of ppl that actually buy 1 coffee RM16++ and sit there 8 hrs.
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Mana Ada sugar?
Drink coffee without sugar la.
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post Jan 9 2023, 11:43 AM

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post Jan 9 2023, 11:43 AM

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It's never about the taste of the beverage.

Ppl go Starbucks to flaunt their Apple logo product, stare at syt openly, and get the 'atasan' feeling.
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post Jan 9 2023, 11:44 AM

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The Zus did it
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post Jan 9 2023, 11:46 AM

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post Jan 9 2023, 11:48 AM

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stopped supporting zus after finding out that points expire. and i also don't like being forced to use an app to order a drink. why can't take my order over the counter?

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post Jan 9 2023, 11:50 AM

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For me the ranking will be

1. Kopenhagen Coffee
2. Baristar
3. Gigi Coffee
4. CBTL
5. Starbucks
6. ZUS
7. Bask Bear
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QUOTE(Letmetellu @ Jan 9 2023, 11:17 AM)
No wonder so many obese ppl..
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How is drinking coffee makes you fat? Berapa kalori je pun...
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Lmao they talked as if those are groundbreaking advantages/ values laugh.gif
Starbucks can easily provide/outperform whatever ZUS is doing/trying to achieve, it's just a matter of whether Starbucks want to go full force into it (
Just brand power alone, Starbucks >>>> ZUS

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QUOTE(scorgio @ Jan 9 2023, 11:43 AM)
It's never about the taste of the beverage.

Ppl go Starbucks to flaunt their Apple logo product, stare at syt openly, and get the 'atasan' feeling.
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Yup. Starbucks is actually selling workspace not coffee.
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QUOTE(scorgio @ Jan 9 2023, 11:43 AM)
It's never about the taste of the beverage.

Ppl go Starbucks to flaunt their Apple logo product, stare at syt openly, and get the 'atasan' feeling.
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post Jan 9 2023, 11:52 AM

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He who sell sugarest drink wins!
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post Jan 9 2023, 11:54 AM

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I spend RM 200 a month on Starbucks.. ZUS coffee opened an outlet in front of my house... Tried it yesterday.. Ok lah, half price of Starbucks

RM 6.90 for Americano.. Starbucks is RM 12.90 for Americano (depending on location)

Got a cute and friendly amoi working in that ZUS outlet too. Maybe can convert from Starbucks to ZUS
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post Jan 9 2023, 11:57 AM

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havent try zus yet, lost interest to try after tried gg, wat kind of junk coffee..lol
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post Jan 9 2023, 11:58 AM

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Zus coffee reminds me of Luckin Coffee.

read up on luckin coffee on your own. i dont want to get LOD-ed.
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post Jan 9 2023, 11:59 AM

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QUOTE(iamSUSUman @ Jan 9 2023, 11:58 AM)
Zus coffee reminds me of Luckin Coffee.

read up on luckin coffee on your own. i dont want to get LOD-ed.
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And that's a bad thing?
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post Jan 9 2023, 11:59 AM

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save urself some money for the long-term, make ur own coffee.

buy a decent grinder, then pair with tools of ur preferences; aeropress, french press, moka pot, pour-over, drip, etc etc.

want espresso; got automatic machine like delonghi, some italian machines or manual hand-lever ones like Flair.
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post Jan 9 2023, 12:00 PM

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ZUS cafe design is horrible. Dont feel can lepak2 there do work with laptop. laugh.gif
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LMAO

I went to ZUS. That was the first and last time

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post Jan 9 2023, 12:00 PM

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cheaper price kopi but not quality .
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post Jan 9 2023, 12:01 PM

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QUOTE(toughguy @ Jan 9 2023, 10:35 AM)
Yes, higher quality and cheaper than Starbucks.
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Wtf lol. Coffee is just average. Still i wont pay for that price
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Business always have ups and downs , so no need to show off especially young company

We need Amazon coffee in Malaysia
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QUOTE(JasonTheGreat @ Jan 9 2023, 10:35 AM)
Sumpah never try. Still love CBTL
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post Jan 9 2023, 12:04 PM

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post Jan 9 2023, 12:04 PM

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QUOTE(iamSUSUman @ Jan 9 2023, 11:58 AM)
Zus coffee reminds me of Luckin Coffee.

read up on luckin coffee on your own. i dont want to get LOD-ed.
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Wow..macam 96% similarity
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post Jan 9 2023, 12:06 PM

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I'm just a tongkat ali power root drinker. Never a fan tos Setapak or sus.
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post Jan 9 2023, 12:08 PM

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zus not even real coffee, just another sugar laden crap like starbucks
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QUOTE(0300078 @ Jan 9 2023, 10:36 AM)
honestly speaking lah.... Zus coffee all taste bad becoz of the sugar they used... but i think they actually do earn more... becoz a lot of their outlet just sell coffee and no seats for ppl to lepak whole day.

Starbuck need expensive rental and always full of ppl that actually buy 1 coffee RM16++ and sit there 8 hrs.
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Agreed, they serve different market needs - Starbucks is more towards co-working space and lepak place. ZUS cannot sit very long one (except perhaps the one at Datum Jelatek).
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Habislah TS this is confidential information and presentation. Waiting to kena sue by ZUS
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post Jan 9 2023, 12:11 PM

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dunkin' iced coffee ftw
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QUOTE(Ttbatdtptsm @ Jan 9 2023, 10:40 AM)
U percaya that kind of graph ?
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nowadays ppl easily believe whatever they see online or whatever that's shown to them. too lazy to do fact check
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QUOTE(0300078 @ Jan 9 2023, 10:36 AM)
honestly speaking lah.... Zus coffee all taste bad becoz of the sugar they used... but i think they actually do earn more... becoz a lot of their outlet just sell coffee and no seats for ppl to lepak whole day.

Starbuck need expensive rental and always full of ppl that actually buy 1 coffee RM16++ and sit there 8 hrs.
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go Starbuck, much more good sounding
go Zus, Sus, no nice rhymes
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I just rank cafes based on the mabience and how cosy it is to do work in. Zus doesnt have much of that.

If i want good coffee i just make it myself. Like a simple boncafe brazilian is better than most of the coffee out there which are either burnt or are just sugar water.
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Kesian….ownself drink sugary sweetened coffee mau blame Zus. Can opt for iced Americano or latte without sugar what
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QUOTE(herpaderp @ Jan 9 2023, 12:11 PM)
dunkin' iced coffee ftw
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Dunkin donuts coffee? my sister drink all sorts of fast food coffee. but seems she like its too, really looks lstrange and out of nowhere. does it really good hmm.gif
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Dunkin donuts coffee? my sister drink all sorts of fast food coffee. but seems she like its too, really looks lstrange and out of nowhere. does it really good  hmm.gif
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yes, give it a try.
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QUOTE(Catter Mint @ Jan 9 2023, 12:15 PM)
Dunkin donuts coffee? my sister drink all sorts of fast food coffee. but seems she like its too, really looks lstrange and out of nowhere. does it really good  hmm.gif
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For me dunkins coffee tak la sedap mana. Gigi coffee macam better
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QUOTE(vapanel @ Jan 9 2023, 11:59 AM)
And that's a bad thing?
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there's good and there's bad, some people here ask about their modus operandi, which I found quite similar to luckin, even the color, theme, outlet type, etc is pretty spot on.
as for a deeper and more complicated answer, you have to read news about luckin coffee. aint risking my ass to get LOD-ed since its too early of a stage to be linking them to anything of the sort. so im just saying their outlet theme is pretty similar icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(-PuPu^ZaPruD3r- @ Jan 9 2023, 11:54 AM)
I spend RM 200 a month on Starbucks.. ZUS coffee opened an outlet in front of my house... Tried it yesterday.. Ok lah, half price of Starbucks

RM 6.90 for Americano.. Starbucks is RM 12.90 for Americano (depending on location)

Got a cute and friendly amoi working in that ZUS outlet too. Maybe can convert from Starbucks to ZUS
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A few years ago I ordered a flat white from Starbucks.

The staff gave me a latte instead of flat white 😒🙄

The coffee tasted terrible. So diluted and watered down.
No coffee taste.
I never go to Starbucks since then.

Now I make my own coffee at home.
I have a hand grinder and an espresso maker.
I even went the extra mile and learned to roast my own coffee beans.

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I've tried. Honestly, oklah boleh compete with starbucks but price-wise like no difference. Most people would just go starbucks.
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post Jan 9 2023, 12:24 PM

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cheaper, yes.

higher quality, dont think so.

but ayam not super pro in kopi.

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QUOTE(Ttbatdtptsm @ Jan 9 2023, 10:40 AM)
U percaya that kind of graph ?
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Made by intern with no context at all.
It’s the in thing like Apple presentation
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QUOTE(latipbogiba @ Jan 9 2023, 12:17 PM)
For me dunkins coffee tak la sedap mana. Gigi coffee macam better
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i like gigi's buttercream latte.
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QUOTE(doremon @ Jan 9 2023, 10:39 AM)
Dunno y still prefer Starbucks LOL
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QUOTE(kesvani @ Jan 9 2023, 12:33 PM)
Starbuck can relax and enjoy the ambient. The rest is grab and go
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QUOTE(CoffeeDude @ Jan 9 2023, 12:22 PM)
A few years ago I ordered a flat white from Starbucks.

The staff gave me a latte instead of flat white 😒🙄

The coffee tasted terrible. So diluted and watered down.
No coffee taste.
I never go to Starbucks since then.

Now I make my own coffee at home.
I have a hand grinder and an espresso maker.
I even went the extra mile and learned to roast my own coffee beans.
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QUOTE(herpaderp @ Jan 9 2023, 12:11 PM)
dunkin' iced coffee ftw
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One of my favorites. Cheap and sedap.
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QUOTE(Guenhwyvar @ Jan 9 2023, 10:36 AM)
Lol how come it looks like an MLM presentation instead?
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QUOTE(rummage @ Jan 9 2023, 10:36 AM)
i use the app. nice UI, easy to use. Zus coffee also taste better
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I will stick with SB
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just make your own damn coffee at home la
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QUOTE(CoffeeDude @ Jan 9 2023, 12:22 PM)
A few years ago I ordered a flat white from Starbucks.

The staff gave me a latte instead of flat white 😒🙄

The coffee tasted terrible. So diluted and watered down.
No coffee taste.
I never go to Starbucks since then.

Now I make my own coffee at home.
I have a hand grinder and an espresso maker.
I even went the extra mile and learned to roast my own coffee beans.
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Different Starbucks has different QC.. Also, they have 5 tier pricing if not mistaken.. Can't remember during my previous job

U are unlucky to get lousy Starbucks.. Maybe go to another outlet and try again?

Usually I will drink Nescafe Black Roast tin if I can't find Starbucks nearby

My brain can't function without coffee LOL
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QUOTE(frossonice @ Jan 9 2023, 11:50 AM)
How is drinking coffee makes you fat? Berapa kalori je pun...
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Black coffee yala

But these are sugar potong kaki level. Coffee itself can be addictive. Add sugar/sweetener/milk/cream/chocolate gg
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pergi ikea beli barang sikit
claim coffee free
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ikea coffee not bad
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i vote gigi and copi bean
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jan 9 2023, 10:44 AM)
people just want cheap alternative sometimes

so ZUS and gigi are underdog
but if u buy coffee for the environment, of course setarbuck lah

for me, i'm cheap
i'd usually go for ZUS or sometimes wait MCD promo RM3 coffee
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the graph can trusted or not lol can openly show that xus is so better tahan starbuck,
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QUOTE(latipbogiba @ Jan 9 2023, 12:52 PM)
pergi ikea beli barang sikit
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ikea coffee not bad
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i haven try.
but i can comfirm zues packing for delivery is the bestest of all...
starbuck pulak veli degil...tell many times also dont wan to improve..fak em...now suffer jer la
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QUOTE(0300078 @ Jan 9 2023, 10:36 AM)
honestly speaking lah.... Zus coffee all taste bad becoz of the sugar they used... but i think they actually do earn more... becoz a lot of their outlet just sell coffee and no seats for ppl to lepak whole day.

Starbuck need expensive rental and always full of ppl that actually buy 1 coffee RM16++ and sit there 8 hrs.
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both also many people, lack of privacy and noisy bro
I prefer san fransisco
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QUOTE(JeremyLord @ Jan 9 2023, 01:00 PM)
Topkek. Tried once and never again. It was like I drank a cup of milk je.
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One americano already rm10-12 crazy
if no aircond can get rm7-8
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Misleading chart is misleading.
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Value proposition is subjective and not something that can be objectively measured like sales figure, aggregate user review on Google etc

So yes syok sendiri ma chart
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QUOTE(sanosizo @ Jan 9 2023, 10:34 AM)
higher quality?

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Like sugar with coffee flavour.
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QUOTE(latipbogiba @ Jan 9 2023, 12:52 PM)
pergi ikea beli barang sikit
claim coffee free
letak creamer
settle.

ikea coffee not bad
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ikea let u drink their drink...coffee/tea/carbonated drink until u puke for RM2.50
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i haven try.
but i can comfirm zues packing for delivery is the bestest of all...
starbuck pulak veli degil...tell many times also dont wan to improve..fak em...now suffer jer la
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Starbuck never target delivery market, thats why they don't want to change the way they pack. They focus on dine-in.

I beli starbucks for dine-in cos the price has included the environment cost, if we don't sit down to enjoy it's not worth it.
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QUOTE(0300078 @ Jan 9 2023, 10:36 AM)
honestly speaking lah.... Zus coffee all taste bad becoz of the sugar they used... but i think they actually do earn more... becoz a lot of their outlet just sell coffee and no seats for ppl to lepak whole day.

Starbuck need expensive rental and always full of ppl that actually buy 1 coffee RM16++ and sit there 8 hrs.
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QUOTE(thankyou @ Jan 9 2023, 10:57 AM)
Tried Zus but end up return to CBTL... Don't like the milk they are using at the moment.

I drink only latte/flat white so the taste of milk is very important
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Zus also doesn’t use the real fresh milk
They use those packed ones cheaper

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Zus Latte Vs Starbucks Latte, cheaper and nicer to me. But Starbucks has nicer environment overall.
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QUOTE(la bella @ Jan 9 2023, 01:23 PM)
Starbuck never target delivery market, thats why they don't want to change the way they pack. They focus on dine-in.

I beli starbucks for dine-in cos the price has included the environment cost, if we don't sit down to enjoy it's not worth it.
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got many people just happy to carry the cup around
then take photo with background and a starbucks in hand
dont understand those folks, but to each his own...
if me id be doing some work or reading a book in starbucks
of if CNY whole family go there have tea time chit chat abit

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It's really worth if you go Starbucks sit down for hours for its environment.

Starbucks itself is a "style" so I think why ppl is happy to upload photo of them having Starbucks.

Plus its prime location it's a big win compared to ZUS. I always see ZUS operate as a kiosk only in shopping mall or a intermediate shoplot in a business area.

I actually buy both Starbucks and ZUS depends on what I need at that moment.

But I think ZUS really syiok sendiri want to compare delivery market with Starbucks. Starbucks is not into delivery.

ZUS can compare with Gigi they are similar I think. I like Gigi more cos I can choose what beans I want (Indonesia/Columbia).

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Never try before .. how is this different than kopi kenangan?
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QUOTE(la bella @ Jan 9 2023, 01:47 PM)
It's really worth if you go Starbucks sit down for hours for its environment.

Starbucks itself is a "style" so I think why ppl is happy to upload photo of them having Starbucks.

Plus its prime location it's a big win compared to ZUS. I always see ZUS operate as a kiosk only in shopping mall or a intermediate shoplot in a business area.

I actually buy both Starbucks and ZUS depends on what I need at that moment.

But I think ZUS really syiok sendiri want to compare delivery market with Starbucks. Starbucks is not into delivery.

ZUS can compare with Gigi they are similar I think. I like Gigi more cos I can choose what beans I want (Indonesia/Columbia).
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Exactly. I will never order takeout from Starbucks or drive thru. The whole point of buying overpriced coffee is for the customers to sit down to read a book or use a computer for hours. Can I do that at ZUS?
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Starbucks uses super automatic. ZUS uses semi-automatic.

I seen that Christine Pavilion BKt Jalil uses a Slayer.
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jan 9 2023, 01:15 PM)
no need to even claim
ikea let u drink their drink...coffee/tea/carbonated drink until u puke for RM2.50
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Ikea coffee no design big big face logo, so they dont like.. brows.gif
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QUOTE(frossonice @ Jan 9 2023, 10:41 AM)
Regular Zus coffee drinker here. Price wise, much better than Costa and Starbuck, obviously.

Taste wise, Zus is a bit burn but still taste a bit better than Starbuck. Tried GiGi before and I find it to be quite nice. Costa is stale nowadays. Others don't want to mention because there are not many branches of other brands around.

I drink coffee with no sugar btw.
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Which Costa you drink? The machine one, or cafes like in Sunway Pyramid? The later one is marginally better than Starbucks. Machine one.....
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QUOTE(frossonice @ Jan 9 2023, 10:41 AM)
Regular Zus coffee drinker here. Price wise, much better than Costa and Starbuck, obviously.

Taste wise, Zus is a bit burn but still taste a bit better than Starbuck. Tried GiGi before and I find it to be quite nice. Costa is stale nowadays. Others don't want to mention because there are not many branches of other brands around.

I drink coffee with no sugar btw.
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I'm a americano coffee drinker too.

You really know how to differentiate the taste of these chains coffee.

The first time I had ZUS it tasted burned. No joke I had to throw the americano coffee away in trash bin! Then one year latter it getting better, but it is just a normal dark-roasted coffee.

Starbucks Americano I think the water-coffee ratio is wrong, too much water makes the americano too watery. I actually tell barista please don't add the hot water too full. Customise a bit it tasted good. At least it has stronger coffee taste. Or just add extra 1 shot lagi senang.

Costa coffee I no longer drink. Used to drink at Shell petrol station. Same problem like starbucks the coffee-water ratio is wrong. Too much water. Worst is it's a dispenser machine cannot ask barista to customize.

I think Gigi coffee americano is good. They let you choose what beans to use either Indonesia or Columbia. Must choose the Indonesia bean it has a very bold coffee taste. thumbup.gif
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sendiri chart sendiri syok

zus's black coffee just so so only rather top up a bit buy sb
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QUOTE(Ichibanichi @ Jan 9 2023, 10:46 AM)
Starbuck stick to their policies like comfy environment with elegant design thus it make ppl willing to pay premium price.
Zus going the mass opening strategy with kopitiam style environment. Work or not is very subjective depends on market acceptance.
Btw, most of the coffee lover I know, they prefer self-brew
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Dont think that extra RM6 is enough to justify someone occupying a seat in your store for 3 - 6hrs.
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QUOTE(mw1980 @ Jan 9 2023, 03:10 PM)
sendiri chart sendiri syok

zus's black coffee just so so only rather top up a bit buy sb
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ZUS american coffee tasted like cigarette ash. Smoker sure like it.
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whao, mimum kopi pun perlu high tech one.
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QUOTE(la bella @ Jan 9 2023, 03:16 PM)
ZUS american coffee tasted like cigarette ash. Smoker sure like it.
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i smoke and i don't like it, i tasted a lot of coffee before and none of it gave me bad aftertaste like zus did
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i smoke and i don't like it, i tasted a lot of coffee before and none of it gave me bad aftertaste like zus did
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They choose the beans which is too dark roast that left only ash taste.

See post#207 I review chains coffee, I throw the ZUS americano coffee into trash bin the first time I drink. It just tasted bad. Haha. Their coffee with milk I think it is better, you won't tasted that much of burned taste.
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I think Zus coffee is more like Malaysia’s luckin coffee instead of Malaysia’s Setapak
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quality of amoi who patron CBTL/SB > Zus
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Its useless to compare taste of big chain coffee. Because the taste will differ a lot depending on which shop you go to. I've been to CBTL that served me piping hot coffee-flavored milk when I ordered latte, but I cannot generalize that CBTL sucks, because what sucks is the barista that made that drink on that particular day. Also espresso is very precise, so if you happen to visit a shop with barista that doesn't give a shit about calibrating the grinder, it doesn't matter how quality the beans they use, the coffee will taste like shit.

I usually only go to these big chain coffee shops to do adhoc work, so I will pick whichever has the best wifi and environment.
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Starbucks is better and the service is way better than what others mentioned here like Gigi.

Sometimes you pay not just for the drink but the service as well. If I ask SB to remake my drink for whatever reasons, 10/10 times they'll do it for me no questions asked.

Also, Gigi obviously cheap out on their drinks. I ordered regular and butter cream latte once. Damn a lot of ice. Not the same for Starbucks (IMO).

Gigi obviously can sell cheaper. Most of their stalls are pop-up unlike SB which is actual store.

Taste wise is completely your preference. I like Starbucks better because I prefer bitterness and the slight burn taste. Unsurprisingly I love grilled foods too lol.

PS: Fun facts about Gigi. This is actually their second or third try. Previously they tried with Caffe Bene which failed and another one I do not recall which failed. Now they try pop-up style because their previous style which has actual stores failed.

The founder is Latexx founder's son who cashed out back in 2012. You can google Google "Low Bok Tek". Recently Low Bok Tek tried to re-enter glove industry "One Glove" which is obviously not doing well now due to glove glut. He's also former cofounders of KBES (Konsortium Bas Express) with his brothers. They have all cashed out their stake long ago. Actually, KBES already collapsed some time ago and Low Bok Tek bought substansial shares recently and rebranded it to One Glove. This is likely to take advantage of its already existing listing status in Bursa.

Anyway, if you want, you can stalk the founder's (the son) IG profile @marcus_low

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i find both brand also super sweet and no coffee taste. even i order americano with no sugar, no syrup, no glucose, no sweet but still end up with some sort of sweet. still hawker shop uncle kopi O kosong kaw best.
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Have to concur CBTL is best out of the three... wonder why ZUS's presentation never compare against CBTL?
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I drink zeus coffee last time, straight headache.
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ZUS need to have more option

Always the same
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Starbucks is obviously still more supporter because Marehsian generally like to potong kaki
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wait till bigger one like luckin come in to sapu both
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i tried ZUS, glucose shoot up 10mmol/l LOL
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QUOTE(JasonTheGreat @ Jan 9 2023, 10:35 AM)
Sumpah never try. Still love CBTL
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for rm12 it is worth the money and yummy too!

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Have to concur CBTL is best out of the three... wonder why ZUS's presentation never compare against CBTL?
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unker sumpah never try....
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Anyone swear by any brand of 3-in-1 white coffee that is so much cheaper n better than all these designer coffee?
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QUOTE(trojandude @ Jan 9 2023, 04:44 PM)
Starbucks is better and the service is way better than what others mentioned here like Gigi.

Sometimes you pay not just for the drink but the service as well. If I ask SB to remake my drink for whatever reasons, 10/10 times they'll do it for me no questions asked.

Also, Gigi obviously cheap out on their drinks. I ordered regular and butter cream latte once. Damn a lot of ice. Not the same for Starbucks (IMO).

Gigi obviously can sell cheaper. Most of their stalls are pop-up unlike SB which is actual store.

Taste wise is completely your preference. I like Starbucks better because I prefer bitterness and the slight burn taste. Unsurprisingly I love grilled foods too lol.

PS: Fun facts about Gigi. This is actually their second or third try. Previously they tried with Caffe Bene which failed and another one I do not recall which failed. Now they try pop-up style because their previous style which has actual stores failed.

The founder is Latexx founder's son who cashed out back in 2012. You can google Google "Low Bok Tek". Recently Low Bok Tek tried to re-enter glove industry "One Glove" which is obviously not doing well now due to glove glut. He's also former cofounders of KBES (Konsortium Bas Express) with his brothers. They have all cashed out their stake long ago. Actually, KBES already collapsed some time ago and Low Bok Tek bought substansial shares recently and rebranded it to One Glove. This is likely to take advantage of its already existing listing status in Bursa.

Anyway, if you want, you can stalk the founder's (the son) IG profile @marcus_low
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marcus claimed that caffebene is a korean brand lel

but ok lah, gigi coffee is doing ok now ( from what I see, youngster like em )
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Starbucks is obviously still more supporter because Marehsian generally like to potong kaki
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Can request less sugar. Now I no more buying the frappes. It is either Americano or Latte.
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jan 9 2023, 01:15 PM)
no need to even claim
ikea let u drink their drink...coffee/tea/carbonated drink until u puke for RM2.50
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QUOTE(nebula87 @ Jan 9 2023, 02:33 PM)
Ikea coffee no design big big face logo, so they dont like..  brows.gif
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I dont know if u guys notice it or not, but the last time I drink the rm2.50 coffee at the cafeteria, they already switch it to some kind of kopi o variant

so no, no more Patar coffee for rm2.50

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Not a coffee drinker, but i tried taste Zus before, not that bad ekcelli, Starbuck go for free internet nia
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Anyone swear by any brand of 3-in-1 white coffee that is so much cheaper n better than all these designer coffee?
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3-in-1 coffee all also too sweet for me.
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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Jan 9 2023, 05:29 PM)
I dont know if u guys notice it or not, but the last time I drink the rm2.50 coffee at the cafeteria, they already switch it to some kind of kopi o variant

so no, no more Patar coffee for rm2.50

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but RM2.5 unlimited drinks....u can't really complain anything already laugh.gif
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saupei la.. zus only tackle mareshian market, starbucks is worldwide.. do they even give a shiat
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jan 9 2023, 05:49 PM)
not sure about that
but RM2.5 unlimited drinks....u can't really complain anything already laugh.gif
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they already kira

only couple of cheapskate uncles/aunties who can wallop so much drinks vs 1000 other customers who can drink one cup

cost price probably 20 sen and under

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for a good cup of coffee, try Antipodean

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Haha is that chain or indie coffee shop? If I'm serious about good coffee (e.g., wanting to bring friend from out of town go minum kopi) I'll bring them to small indie shops like Ome or Meraki in Penang.
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QUOTE(KingArthurVI @ Jan 9 2023, 06:12 PM)
Haha is that chain or indie coffee shop? If I'm serious about good coffee (e.g., wanting to bring friend from out of town go minum kopi) I'll bring them to small indie shops like Ome or Meraki in Penang.
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currently only got 4 branches. I think I started went there back in 2014

good coffee defnitely, you can read their google review then

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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Jan 9 2023, 05:16 PM)
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Starbucks revenue was around rm900mil in 2022.

This is Zus one.
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They are doing well, but I'd still say Starbucks don't even put them in category of contenders.
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Starbucks is not impossible to beat. They have failed in several markets like Australia, Israel and Sweden due to local competitors and failure to adapt to local taste. Starbucks is generally overpriced, not that good and also easy to copy.
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QUOTE(0300078 @ Jan 9 2023, 10:36 AM)
honestly speaking lah.... Zus coffee all taste bad becoz of the sugar they used... but i think they actually do earn more... becoz a lot of their outlet just sell coffee and no seats for ppl to lepak whole day.

Starbuck need expensive rental and always full of ppl that actually buy 1 coffee RM16++ and sit there 8 hrs.
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Wtf kind a shit taste of their coffee mang
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I am super old school bizman..

I really cant brain these type of "crowd funding" biz..

Recently spoken to a company representative..

Their are making losses, 2022 revenue around 8mil, and their 4 yo company "value at 48Mil" and crowd funded 10M last year.

Damn my company did 20+m revenue, made 4M+, year to year growth more than 100% (partly due to 2021 covid year), then ma worth more 100M liao!
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Lai half price 50m siapa nak beli please PM. 😂😂

PS: not to boast but really cant brain crowd funding biz, allllll not making money one.. I think they only make money from investors.

Old schooler like me still making honest profit from consumers.

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Zus tasted like shit also peole love

Guess they never tasted good coffee before, without syrup or sugar, of course.


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QUOTE(KingArthurVI @ Jan 9 2023, 06:12 PM)
Haha is that chain or indie coffee shop? If I'm serious about good coffee (e.g., wanting to bring friend from out of town go minum kopi) I'll bring them to small indie shops like Ome or Meraki in Penang.
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antipodean is famous worldwide for good food and drinks

but prepare to pay
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I tried ZUS coffee 1 time and thats the last time.

Starbucks is way better, the coffee is rich n thicke.
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QUOTE(incubus69 @ Jan 9 2023, 06:58 PM)
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marcus claimed that caffebene is a korean brand lel

but ok lah, gigi coffee is doing ok now ( from what I see, youngster like em )
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zus i ask for less sweet also still taste sweet huhu

really potong kaki

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QUOTE(fuzzy @ Jan 9 2023, 06:42 PM)
Starbucks revenue was around rm900mil in 2022.

This is Zus one.
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They are doing well, but I'd still say Starbucks don't even put them in category of contenders.
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Yep. As for GIGI Coffee, they had a profit of 700k based on end-2021 Financial Result.

Starbucks is way bigger than any of them.
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zus i ask for less sweet also still taste sweet huhu

really potong kaki

but their cbeans are kinda good
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I'm going to state the obvious.

GIGI Coffee is obviously targeted to Malays. Malays generally have a sweeter tooth IMO. Not surprisingly GIGI drinks are sweeter than other brands. It's also the cheapest. At least according to statistics, Malays have the least buying power.

GIGI is definitely not competing with Starbucks. Different market segment. IMO they won't be stealing Starbucks share of cake.

edit: misread gigi for zus

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Kelantan got many homegrown cafe. Ada Nasken for starters. Never got the chance to try though.
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QUOTE(Volfeed @ Jan 9 2023, 09:18 PM)
Kelantan got many homegrown cafe. Ada Nasken for starters. Never got the chance to try though.
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I also never got the chance to try it, got a few hipster cafe around KB but the amount of Nasken outlets way more than others. Even starbucks got 2 outlets now.
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QUOTE(fuzzy @ Jan 9 2023, 06:42 PM)
Starbucks revenue was around rm900mil in 2022.

This is Zus one.
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They are doing well, but I'd still say Starbucks don't even put them in category of contenders.
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They are doing well, but I'd still say Starbucks don't even put them in category of contenders.
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blockbuster once laughed off netflix, they don't consider netflix in the category of contenders. now they went bankrupt
yahoo once laughed off google and don't consider their algorithm to be able to compete with them. now their search engine is barely used

don't always look down on the small guys because many giants in history was defeated by the small guys

personally, in this case i don't think zus will bring down starbucks though smile.gif


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QUOTE(DarkAeon @ Jan 9 2023, 11:17 PM)
blockbuster once laughed off netflix, they don't consider netflix in the category of contenders. now they went bankrupt
yahoo once laughed off google and don't consider their algorithm to be able to compete with them. now their search engine is barely used

don't always look down on the small guys because many giants in history was defeated by the small guys

personally, in this case i don't think zus will bring down starbucks though smile.gif
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Except Blockbuster didn't laugh Netflix off. Even Hastings book mentioned as such. Netflix was a failing business with 50mil in debt, they went to Blockbuster and ask them to pay 50mil for Netflix, so meaning a deal to buy a company that let people rent DVDs online and they shipped it to the houses.

It made no sense when Blockbuster also have their own website, own stores and customers doing the same thing.

Of course Netflix took off when they were able to do streaming while Blockbuster was not able to pivot as fast.
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QUOTE(fuzzy @ Jan 9 2023, 11:31 PM)
Except Blockbuster didn't laugh Netflix off. Even Hastings book mentioned as such. Netflix was a failing business with 50mil in debt, they went to Blockbuster and ask them to pay 50mil for Netflix, so meaning a deal to buy a company that let people rent DVDs online and they shipped it to the houses.

It made no sense when Blockbuster also have their own website, own stores and customers doing the same thing.

Of course Netflix took off when they were able to do streaming while Blockbuster was not able to pivot as fast.
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thats where blockbuster laughed at netflix, $50 million for a failing business? are u kidding me? u go sell a failing business for 50 million, of course other ppl will laugh at u la
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blockbuster once laughed off netflix, they don't consider netflix in the category of contenders. now they went bankrupt
yahoo once laughed off google and don't consider their algorithm to be able to compete with them. now their search engine is barely used

don't always look down on the small guys because many giants in history was defeated by the small guys

personally, in this case i don't think zus will bring down starbucks though smile.gif
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If Zus can invade USA and China then Starbucks can consider gg
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ZUS only can beat starbuck in coffee. However food & merchandise ZUS sucks to max. Seating comfort, ambient also sucks
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An investor pitch like this really fail. A lot of buzzwords and promises, very little data that matters. Seems like following footsteps of Luckin Coffee. Starbucks is not successful because of one dimension, they have great supply chain, locations, marketing etc.
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QUOTE(Obosh @ Jan 10 2023, 12:05 AM)
An investor pitch like this really fail. A lot of buzzwords and promises, very little data that matters. Seems like following footsteps of Luckin Coffee. Starbucks is not successful because of one dimension, they have great supply chain, locations, marketing etc.
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The entire session was blowing hot air only

Big ego u see spike his hair wear white shirt u know just talk big

Can roll eyes when he said best quality coffee beans

Anyway all the best to Zus

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Dono why all the sudden mesmerizing deli france/paris cappuccino and croissant aroma from the oven.

Hmm.....
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ZUS only can beat starbuck in coffee. However food & merchandise ZUS sucks to max. Seating comfort, ambient also sucks
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And the color lol.. who is their creative director 😂
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If Zus can invade USA and China then Starbucks can consider gg
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China biggest coffee chain is homegrown, 'Luckin Coffee'. If they invade Maresia, very fast Zus tapau.
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jan 9 2023, 07:31 PM)
antipodean is famous worldwide for good food and drinks

but prepare to pay
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Antipodean Coffee is a Kiwi owned and operated Cafe and Coffee Roasting company. The cafe business began in 2009 (Jakarta, Indonesia), the roasting business 2003 (Jakarta, Indonesia). We now have cafes in Kuala Lumpur, Hong Kong, Jakarta and Manila.
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F&B is never easy. Thats about 3% profit margin. Also according to google (dunno can trust or not), average margin for coffee shop is 2.5% - 6%
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QUOTE(The Retailer @ Jan 9 2023, 07:09 PM)
I am super old school bizman..

I really cant brain these type of "crowd funding" biz..

Recently spoken to a company representative..

Their are making losses, 2022 revenue around 8mil, and their 4 yo company "value at 48Mil" and crowd funded 10M last year.

Damn my company did 20+m revenue, made 4M+, year to year growth more than 100% (partly due to 2021 covid year), then ma worth more 100M liao!
😂😂

Lai half price 50m siapa nak beli please PM. 😂😂

PS: not to boast but really cant brain crowd funding biz, allllll not making money one.. I think they only make money from investors.

Old schooler like me still making honest profit from consumers.
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their valuation is always 5x
so this year 8mil in 5 years time should be earning 40mil liao lol ...
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just came to sabah kk couple months ago opening 1 outlet and within 2-3 months already open 4-5 outlets. crazy..

drinks are ok for the price la.. buy 1 free 1 for first time user.. got 2 numbers/phone can use 2 times lol
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recently less patronize zus already coz they also price hike.

used to buy around 3-4 times per week.. zero latte w/ soymilk or oatly depending on mood.
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Lol how come it looks like an MLM presentation instead?
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QUOTE(Pulltea88 @ Jan 10 2023, 01:33 AM)
Antipodean Coffee is a Kiwi owned and operated Cafe and Coffee Roasting company. The cafe business began in 2009 (Jakarta, Indonesia), the roasting business 2003 (Jakarta, Indonesia). We now have cafes in Kuala Lumpur, Hong Kong, Jakarta and Manila.
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I know the Antipodean guys- modest not say how much they make but I reckon 20%NP. ZUS is 3%NP? This doesn't make sense to me. Unless the principles taking money out before the bottom line. 3-5% is the model you would see in Sydney or Melbourne on a cafe/resto- ZUS should be hitting 25% NP
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QUOTE(whoopa @ Jan 10 2023, 01:49 AM)
their valuation is always 5x
so this year 8mil in 5 years time should be earning 40mil liao lol ...
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Valuation is tricky. When appealing to crowd funding you can be emotive promise the world. Actually in retailing we say a brand is 8-12x NP. So assuming a 500,000rm 4-6,000,000. I cant see the brand being worth 40,000,000 - this is pipedream stuff and as several people have already said- beware the Luckin model. Look- I am not trashing ZUS they have done well but what does the brand offer that is unique? Nothing. This is the barrier for taking on the giants of the business and I am not talking Starbucks. I am talking Indian competition. Need to make unique.
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QUOTE(trojandude @ Jan 10 2023, 01:49 AM)
F&B is never easy. Thats about 3% profit margin. Also according to google (dunno can trust or not), average margin for coffee shop is 2.5% - 6%
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Good point- but not correct. In Malaysia a cafe model- not a complicated one like Yeast or Breakfast Thieves - but a coffee/wrap/cake system based on T/A and a customer count of +/- 100 pax/day should be able to hit a NP of 25-28%. In Indonesia the same model 38-42%. Philippines 12-15%. Only in Singapore. HK and the like would you ever expect a 3% NP - I would expect in Zus case (unless its being mismanaged which you would doubt) the low NP is because they are minimizing tax exposure. That makes sense on one hand- but can adversely affect investor confidence on the other. The appeal to these expanding new players is a potential institutional investor interest in the business- this isn't necessarily because of high NP or EBITDA % but more the coverage they have through Malaysia and the proven trackrecord of attracting massive crowdfunding interest.
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QUOTE(The Retailer @ Jan 9 2023, 07:09 PM)
I am super old school bizman..

I really cant brain these type of "crowd funding" biz..

Recently spoken to a company representative..

Their are making losses, 2022 revenue around 8mil, and their 4 yo company "value at 48Mil" and crowd funded 10M last year.

Damn my company did 20+m revenue, made 4M+, year to year growth more than 100% (partly due to 2021 covid year), then ma worth more 100M liao!
😂😂

Lai half price 50m siapa nak beli please PM. 😂😂

PS: not to boast but really cant brain crowd funding biz, allllll not making money one.. I think they only make money from investors.

Old schooler like me still making honest profit from consumers.
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QUOTE(Retailer101 @ Jan 10 2023, 12:09 PM)
I know the Antipodean guys- modest not say how much they make but I reckon 20%NP. ZUS is 3%NP? This doesn't make sense to me. Unless the principles taking money out before the bottom line. 3-5% is the model you would see in Sydney or Melbourne on a cafe/resto- ZUS should be hitting 25% NP
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QUOTE(Retailer101 @ Jan 10 2023, 12:09 PM)
I know the Antipodean guys- modest not say how much they make but I reckon 20%NP. ZUS is 3%NP? This doesn't make sense to me. Unless the principles taking money out before the bottom line. 3-5% is the model you would see in Sydney or Melbourne on a cafe/resto- ZUS should be hitting 25% NP
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Because they are earning more from investor side. And they are more interested to do so.

Just my pov. Recently got more and more investors find me.. Maybe one day my biz NP 20+% become 2% also lmao.

But personal income x50
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https://lkcoffee.com/
sooner or later zus will be like them
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Go to https://petakopi.my to see the list of freshly brewed coffee around you. Lots of small shops who are trying their best to serve real coffee
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QUOTE(Retailer101 @ Jan 10 2023, 12:30 PM)
Good point- but not correct. In Malaysia a cafe model- not a complicated one like Yeast or Breakfast Thieves - but a coffee/wrap/cake system based on T/A and a customer count of +/- 100 pax/day should be able to hit a NP of 25-28%. In Indonesia the same model 38-42%. Philippines 12-15%. Only in Singapore. HK and the like would you ever expect a 3% NP - I would expect in Zus case (unless its being mismanaged which you would doubt) the low NP is because they are minimizing tax exposure. That makes sense on one hand- but can adversely affect investor confidence on the other. The appeal to these expanding new players is a potential institutional investor interest in the business- this isn't necessarily because of high NP or EBITDA % but more the coverage they have through Malaysia and the proven trackrecord of attracting massive crowdfunding interest.
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I was gonna say the same thing. Considering how fast Zus is expanding, I think they might be reinvesting the profit hence the lowered profit margins?


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I also tatse sekali jer zus and never went back anymore.nothing special,many other shop taste better.

As far as business point , couldn't see the potential.if all based on investor pumping money in instead of generating healthy profit .
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come to think about this, if their product is really great, then why they need to be so aggressive in gaining fundings? if they have a great product, then surely they will be able to grow and capture the market
if they so aggressive in gaining more fundings to expand, then most likely their product sucks and they are just finding waterfishes to fund the expansion of their company or brand

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post Jan 11 2023, 01:52 AM

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QUOTE(Ttbatdtptsm @ Jan 9 2023, 10:40 AM)
U percaya that kind of graph ?
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It's to con investors lah
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post Jan 11 2023, 03:47 AM

wattttt!!
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QUOTE(whoopa @ Jan 10 2023, 01:43 AM)
16mil revenue only 500k profit sure mou lol
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gross profit maybe but i dont trust
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post Jan 11 2023, 08:12 AM

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post Jan 11 2023, 08:20 AM

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ZUS latte 200ML RM9.90 vs Starbucks Latte 590ML RM16.80

Zus is more expensive and taste horrible
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post Jan 11 2023, 08:31 AM

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lol zus. their coffee didn't even taste good.
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post Jan 11 2023, 08:35 AM

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Lucky for me not a caffeine drinker, not really "dgaf" biggrin.gif
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post Jan 11 2023, 08:51 AM

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I've had the worst coffees with Zus. Will stick to Gigi and Starbucks /CB...
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post Jan 11 2023, 08:57 AM

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Starbucks is the lowest benchmark for coffee
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post Jan 11 2023, 09:24 AM

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tenum kopi ftw
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post Jan 11 2023, 10:05 AM

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QUOTE(blissd @ Jan 11 2023, 08:51 AM)
I've had the worst coffees with Zus. Will stick to Gigi and Starbucks /CB...
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I only drink black coffee, based on my coffee experience with the coffee chains you mentioned, I agreed with your opinion.

CBTL has the best black coffee among the coffee chains you mentioned above, it is the most balanced taste coffee I ever had in coffee chains

Gigi 2nd place cos they are better with the type of bean they offer (they let you choose choose indonesia or columbia beans)

Followed by Starbucks, their fresh brew coffee (not from espresso machine) seasonal beans is really good, bold and flavorful. Need patient to wait cos the barista need time to start the brewing machine so it takes time. Starbucks americano coffee I commented many times it's too diluted with water.

The worst black coffee i have to vote ZUS cos I throwed it into thrash bin the first time I minum.
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post Jan 12 2023, 02:44 PM

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post Jan 12 2023, 08:26 PM

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QUOTE(sanosizo @ Jan 9 2023, 10:34 AM)
higher quality?

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starbucks quality very inconsistent lately. orders wrong, tastes inconsistent.
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post Jan 12 2023, 08:27 PM

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Gigi pecan >>>>>>>>>>> all
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post Jan 13 2023, 02:13 AM

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doesnt need much to have better quality than starbucks
just fancy mamak kopi
the branding though, it really depends on marketing

 

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