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Jan 9 2023, 10:33 AM, updated 3y ago
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Jan 9 2023, 10:34 AM
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higher quality? phuii xtrabite, Steponlego, and 1 other liked this post
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Jan 9 2023, 10:35 AM
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Yes, higher quality and cheaper than Starbucks.
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Jan 9 2023, 10:35 AM
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Sumpah never try. Still love CBTL Wagyuchicken, darkmusses, and 17 others liked this post
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Jan 9 2023, 10:36 AM
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i use the app. nice UI, easy to use. Zus coffee also taste better
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Jan 9 2023, 10:36 AM
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tak pernah try
sedap ka? |
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Jan 9 2023, 10:36 AM
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honestly speaking lah.... Zus coffee all taste bad becoz of the sugar they used... but i think they actually do earn more... becoz a lot of their outlet just sell coffee and no seats for ppl to lepak whole day.
Starbuck need expensive rental and always full of ppl that actually buy 1 coffee RM16++ and sit there 8 hrs. |
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Jan 9 2023, 10:36 AM
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Lol how come it looks like an MLM presentation instead?
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Jan 9 2023, 10:36 AM
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Jan 9 2023, 10:38 AM
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QUOTE(0300078 @ Jan 9 2023, 10:36 AM) honestly speaking lah.... Zus coffee all taste bad becoz of the sugar they used... but i think they actually do earn more... becoz a lot of their outlet just sell coffee and no seats for ppl to lepak whole day. yup, their latte without any sugar is good.Starbuck need expensive rental and always full of ppl that actually buy 1 coffee RM16++ and sit there 8 hrs. |
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Jan 9 2023, 10:38 AM
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Jan 9 2023, 10:38 AM
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Zus so so only. I think because it is “new” ?
Anyway, we should have our own national starbucks |
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Jan 9 2023, 10:38 AM
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between SUS and other coffee retails
personally, still prefer Starbucks alternative coffee is GiGi coffee. tasted SUS and GiGi both before.. SUS taste super sweet and can't really taste coffee at all... boikot terus.. hahaha |
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Jan 9 2023, 10:39 AM
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ZUS less sweet = Setapak regular sweet = CBTL extra sweet
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Jan 9 2023, 10:39 AM
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Jan 9 2023, 10:39 AM
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i am gigi supporter. sorry zus xpole and ImitationLiger liked this post
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Jan 9 2023, 10:39 AM
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it failed big time in china. next step they have is to give tons of vouchers like buy one free one, extreme discounts, etc. lagenda110 liked this post
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Jan 9 2023, 10:39 AM
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Dunno y still prefer Starbucks LOL ImitationLiger liked this post
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Jan 9 2023, 10:40 AM
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Contribute more to diebetes number
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Jan 9 2023, 10:40 AM
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U percaya that kind of graph ? Timber liked this post
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Jan 9 2023, 10:40 AM
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tak pernah try
sedap ka? |
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Jan 9 2023, 10:40 AM
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zus cheap coffee taste like starbucks
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Jan 9 2023, 10:41 AM
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Regular Zus coffee drinker here. Price wise, much better than Costa and Starbuck, obviously. Taste wise, Zus is a bit burn but still taste a bit better than Starbuck. Tried GiGi before and I find it to be quite nice. Costa is stale nowadays. Others don't want to mention because there are not many branches of other brands around. I drink coffee with no sugar btw. This post has been edited by frossonice: Jan 9 2023, 10:57 AM rhymeregim, fikku, and 5 others liked this post
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Jan 9 2023, 10:41 AM
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i just dont get a cafe/restaurant that focus more on tech than the food/service itself. ImitationLiger liked this post
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Jan 9 2023, 10:41 AM
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Throw your life savings now? Nbdre ImitationLiger liked this post
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Jan 9 2023, 10:42 AM
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starbucks blh sue Zus tak? using they logo without consent for public presentation? ImitationLiger liked this post
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Jan 9 2023, 10:42 AM
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Did zus kopi go in starbuck and get the numbers correct? Or sendiri draft based on hype ? ImitationLiger liked this post
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Jan 9 2023, 10:43 AM
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Never try before actually
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Jan 9 2023, 10:43 AM
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their cake sucks ass tho
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Jan 9 2023, 10:44 AM
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people just want cheap alternative sometimes
so ZUS and gigi are underdog but if u buy coffee for the environment, of course setarbuck lah for me, i'm cheap i'd usually go for ZUS or sometimes wait MCD promo RM3 coffee This post has been edited by MR_alien: Jan 9 2023, 10:44 AM |
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Jan 9 2023, 10:44 AM
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Dome still best
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Jan 9 2023, 10:45 AM
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Zus nicer and cheaper
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Jan 9 2023, 10:45 AM
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Jan 9 2023, 10:45 AM
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Jan 9 2023, 10:46 AM
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syok sendiri ada.
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Jan 9 2023, 10:46 AM
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QUOTE(0300078 @ Jan 9 2023, 10:36 AM) honestly speaking lah.... Zus coffee all taste bad becoz of the sugar they used... but i think they actually do earn more... becoz a lot of their outlet just sell coffee and no seats for ppl to lepak whole day. Starbuck stick to their policies like comfy environment with elegant design thus it make ppl willing to pay premium price.Starbuck need expensive rental and always full of ppl that actually buy 1 coffee RM16++ and sit there 8 hrs. Zus going the mass opening strategy with kopitiam style environment. Work or not is very subjective depends on market acceptance. Btw, most of the coffee lover I know, they prefer self-brew akif93, ratloverice, and 3 others liked this post
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Jan 9 2023, 10:47 AM
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customer service kinda meh
too slow |
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Jan 9 2023, 10:47 AM
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Kinda skeptical on the 23 million cups served.
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Jan 9 2023, 10:47 AM
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Both are trash. Disgrace to coffee drinkers
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Jan 9 2023, 10:48 AM
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Need more states to ban 4d so berjaya can refocus on Starbucks business. ImitationLiger liked this post
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Jan 9 2023, 10:48 AM
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Jan 9 2023, 10:49 AM
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Why reviews on ZUS so polarizing one. Some say not sweet some say super sweet. ImitationLiger liked this post
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Jan 9 2023, 10:49 AM
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QUOTE(0300078 @ Jan 9 2023, 10:36 AM) honestly speaking lah.... Zus coffee all taste bad becoz of the sugar they used... but i think they actually do earn more... becoz a lot of their outlet just sell coffee and no seats for ppl to lepak whole day. Starbucks is a cybercafe but laptop self prepare.Starbuck need expensive rental and always full of ppl that actually buy 1 coffee RM16++ and sit there 8 hrs. |
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Jan 9 2023, 10:50 AM
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the graph shows no number, only high and low syok sendiri i guess ImitationLiger liked this post
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Jan 9 2023, 10:50 AM
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QUOTE(St0rmFury @ Jan 9 2023, 10:49 AM) as a coffee lover, if all u can describe in a coffee is sweet or not sweet then u r better off drinking something else. |
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Jan 9 2023, 10:51 AM
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The graph correct la. It is not sales. They are saying they do more delivery than starbucks which is correct. Starbucks , people go and sit and drink at the store. ImitationLiger liked this post
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Jan 9 2023, 10:51 AM
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Jan 9 2023, 10:51 AM
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Too bad I don't see pipu queuing for zus. ImitationLiger liked this post
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Jan 9 2023, 10:52 AM
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Macam luckin coffee je.
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Jan 9 2023, 10:53 AM
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Zus so sweet and the amount they give is actually very little. Good that Zus saw the opportunity and seized it. ImitationLiger liked this post
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Jan 9 2023, 10:53 AM
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All in into ZUS Coffee now, don't regret, year end 2023 = multi coffee lover addicted 101%... ImitationLiger liked this post
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Jan 9 2023, 10:56 AM
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QUOTE(toughguy @ Jan 9 2023, 10:35 AM) You sure on the quality? I tried once and never the 2nd. I wonder its coffee or sweetener i had? Starbuck still can find good outlets with good barista, specially stand alone I don't mind paying more for a better seating environment sipping my coffee. Else, nothing beats making one at home This post has been edited by jojolicia: Jan 9 2023, 10:59 AM |
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Jan 9 2023, 10:57 AM
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most unicorn start up in malaysia wont last long.
Especially once investor money dry up. This post has been edited by 68 others: Jan 9 2023, 10:57 AM |
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Jan 9 2023, 10:57 AM
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Zus ceo coffee is ok, others not worthy for my money Gigi is better ImitationLiger liked this post
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Jan 9 2023, 10:57 AM
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Used to like Zus, only because it was the relatively cheaper option compared to Starbucks and Coffeebean, but their quality of late (at my place at least) has been dropping, bad customer service at outlets, also that whole fiasco with their team responding to customer complaint on soc media just left a sour taste overall. ImitationLiger liked this post
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Jan 9 2023, 10:57 AM
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Tried Zus but end up return to CBTL... Don't like the milk they are using at the moment. I drink only latte/flat white so the taste of milk is very important jojolicia liked this post
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Jan 9 2023, 10:59 AM
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kopi uncang cap tubik besting. ZUS price will be same level as setarbak in near puture Rusty Nail liked this post
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Jan 9 2023, 10:59 AM
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Kopi O kaw kosong > all Zeroxhunter liked this post
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Jan 9 2023, 11:01 AM
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used to be avid customer of starbucks when fraps was below RM8
now not any more. no longer patronize any coffee or boba tea chain so i'm highly sus about their data |
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Jan 9 2023, 11:03 AM
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thanks too MCO , zus delivery sky rocketed and those waiting to pickup also pack during that’s time. But now seems to be slow to maybe half from their peak
and Tealive even worse This post has been edited by Clement1001: Jan 9 2023, 11:04 AM |
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Actually if you think Zus makes good coffee, then you should just switch to McCafe. Zus latte is RM10.95, McCafe large latte is RM10.85. McCafe actually tastes better
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Jan 9 2023, 11:04 AM
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QUOTE(frossonice @ Jan 9 2023, 10:41 AM) Regular Zus coffee drinker here. Price wise, much better than Costa and Starbuck, obviously. Americano / Long black ftwTaste wise, Zus is a bit burn but still taste a bit better than Starbuck. Tried GiGi before and I find it to be quite nice. Costa is stale nowadays. Others don't want to mention because there are not many branches of other brands around. I drink coffee with no sugar btw. |
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5sen
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Jan 9 2023, 11:05 AM
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Different target market
Cannot compare Setarbak still win |
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Jan 9 2023, 11:06 AM
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Jan 9 2023, 11:07 AM
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I went to coffee outlet just to order Americano or Cold Brew
I rarely ordered those fancy fancy like Green tea, machiatto nonsense. If I want to judge whether the coffee is good or not, I tried their Americano first |
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Jan 9 2023, 11:10 AM
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Jan 9 2023, 11:12 AM
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Chek Hup > Coffee Bean > McCafe > Mamak (yang tiptop) > Starbucks > Mamak (yang kureng) > Zus
Edit: added McCafe, tertinggal tadi This post has been edited by Buffalo Soldier: Jan 9 2023, 11:13 AM |
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Jan 9 2023, 11:12 AM
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quality so-so with SBUX, but price is superb!!
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QUOTE(0300078 @ Jan 9 2023, 10:36 AM) honestly speaking lah.... Zus coffee all taste bad becoz of the sugar they used... but i think they actually do earn more... becoz a lot of their outlet just sell coffee and no seats for ppl to lepak whole day. I drink my coffee black only.Starbuck need expensive rental and always full of ppl that actually buy 1 coffee RM16++ and sit there 8 hrs. If compared normal no sugar americano. I prefer zus. |
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Jan 9 2023, 11:15 AM
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Whether Starbucks coffee is better or not is irrelevant. The best margins come from branding and they're already way ahead.
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Jan 9 2023, 11:16 AM
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No good if you want to sit down and do work with laptop or maybe business chat.....
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Jan 9 2023, 11:17 AM
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No wonder so many obese ppl..
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Jan 9 2023, 11:17 AM
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2x tried. Tak sedap. Prefer Starbucks.
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Jan 9 2023, 11:18 AM
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the problem with retail coffee shop is consistency
espresso needs to be calibrated, i think most of barista there dont give a damn about it but i could be wrong. gigi can be great but it will differ from outlet to outlet. so if you really want good coffee, go support your local cafe that knows how to run a cafe. else just go to mynews or family mart. their coffee miles better than starbucks |
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Jan 9 2023, 11:19 AM
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anyone can beat Starbucks at 3 damansara easily
just add more coffee beans and less sugar. |
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Jan 9 2023, 11:19 AM
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ZUS sux. Even worst than SBUX.
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Jan 9 2023, 11:22 AM
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Usually I drink they cafe latte saja, I think better than Starbucks toughguy liked this post
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Jan 9 2023, 11:23 AM
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Jan 9 2023, 11:24 AM
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Yeah as someone said sbux offers the Third place as a place to socialize mostly serving terrible or mediocre coffee
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Jan 9 2023, 11:24 AM
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compare ZUS and richiamo probably better..
cheaper solution is still mekdi, e-mart, cu mart or family mart.. |
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Jan 9 2023, 11:28 AM
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How much to buy 10,000 shares at pre IPO
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Jan 9 2023, 11:28 AM
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fuiyo...dare to make themselves higher than starbucks in the chart.
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Jan 9 2023, 11:29 AM
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Tealive coffee better
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Jan 9 2023, 11:29 AM
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i vouch this.
last time i used to frequent starbucks. now more to ZUS. i like its app. very easy to use and got great rewards too. ZUS ice latte NO SUGAR is the best for my tastebud. |
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Jan 9 2023, 11:29 AM
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starbucks mcm mcdonalds. they are everywhere. they are huge. u sure zus can compete?
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Jan 9 2023, 11:29 AM
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Make espresso or latte at home better
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Jan 9 2023, 11:30 AM
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but I do hope they put more on R&R tho, malaysia R&R is seriously crap
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Jan 9 2023, 11:30 AM
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Lmao drinking beverage in order to continue slaving.
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Jan 9 2023, 11:30 AM
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3,117 posts Joined: Jul 2005 From: Penang |
actually CBTL>ZUS>SBUX
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Jan 9 2023, 11:31 AM
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Where is the news of Zus RIP?
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Jan 9 2023, 11:36 AM
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Jan 9 2023, 11:36 AM
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based on Apps, ZUS > Starbucks way alot,
Starbucks apps is pain in ass to use |
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Jan 9 2023, 11:37 AM
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Gigi coffee cheaper...i like their buttercream and indonesia bean
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Jan 9 2023, 11:38 AM
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Jan 9 2023, 11:39 AM
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wonder got MY utuber compare them? or no do scare kena sue?
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Jan 9 2023, 11:39 AM
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8,430 posts Joined: Jul 2008 |
Omnichannel marketing is the new trend and ZUS is the perfect example
Even McD is doing that with app constantly pulling you to their store |
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Jan 9 2023, 11:40 AM
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Never heard of zus before. But the purpose of Starbucks ismmore than just coffee....
It's also a place to relax, chit chat and surf net etc... |
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Jan 9 2023, 11:40 AM
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Jan 9 2023, 11:41 AM
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QUOTE(0300078 @ Jan 9 2023, 10:36 AM) honestly speaking lah.... Zus coffee all taste bad becoz of the sugar they used... but i think they actually do earn more... becoz a lot of their outlet just sell coffee and no seats for ppl to lepak whole day. Mana Ada sugar?Starbuck need expensive rental and always full of ppl that actually buy 1 coffee RM16++ and sit there 8 hrs. Drink coffee without sugar la. |
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Jan 9 2023, 11:43 AM
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Kluang rail ftw…owai
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Jan 9 2023, 11:43 AM
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It's never about the taste of the beverage.
Ppl go Starbucks to flaunt their Apple logo product, stare at syt openly, and get the 'atasan' feeling. |
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Jan 9 2023, 11:44 AM
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The Zus did it
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Jan 9 2023, 11:46 AM
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game changing coffee lmao
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Jan 9 2023, 11:48 AM
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stopped supporting zus after finding out that points expire. and i also don't like being forced to use an app to order a drink. why can't take my order over the counter?
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Jan 9 2023, 11:50 AM
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For me the ranking will be
1. Kopenhagen Coffee 2. Baristar 3. Gigi Coffee 4. CBTL 5. Starbucks 6. ZUS 7. Bask Bear |
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Jan 9 2023, 11:50 AM
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Jan 9 2023, 11:51 AM
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Lmao they talked as if those are groundbreaking advantages/ values
Starbucks can easily provide/outperform whatever ZUS is doing/trying to achieve, it's just a matter of whether Starbucks want to go full force into it ( Just brand power alone, Starbucks >>>> ZUS |
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Jan 9 2023, 11:51 AM
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Jan 9 2023, 11:52 AM
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QUOTE(scorgio @ Jan 9 2023, 11:43 AM) It's never about the taste of the beverage. "Coffee a Necessity, not a Luxury. For many, coffee is a daily need. Specialty coffee, however, is often seen as a luxury. We want to change this!"Ppl go Starbucks to flaunt their Apple logo product, stare at syt openly, and get the 'atasan' feeling. |
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Jan 9 2023, 11:52 AM
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He who sell sugarest drink wins!
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Jan 9 2023, 11:54 AM
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I spend RM 200 a month on Starbucks.. ZUS coffee opened an outlet in front of my house... Tried it yesterday.. Ok lah, half price of Starbucks
RM 6.90 for Americano.. Starbucks is RM 12.90 for Americano (depending on location) Got a cute and friendly amoi working in that ZUS outlet too. Maybe can convert from Starbucks to ZUS |
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Jan 9 2023, 11:57 AM
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havent try zus yet, lost interest to try after tried gg, wat kind of junk coffee..lol
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Jan 9 2023, 11:58 AM
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Zus coffee reminds me of Luckin Coffee. read up on luckin coffee on your own. i dont want to get LOD-ed. AbbyCom liked this post
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Jan 9 2023, 11:59 AM
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Jan 9 2023, 11:59 AM
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save urself some money for the long-term, make ur own coffee. buy a decent grinder, then pair with tools of ur preferences; aeropress, french press, moka pot, pour-over, drip, etc etc. want espresso; got automatic machine like delonghi, some italian machines or manual hand-lever ones like Flair. AbbyCom liked this post
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Jan 9 2023, 12:00 PM
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2,263 posts Joined: Dec 2006 From: In your head... |
ZUS cafe design is horrible. Dont feel can lepak2 there do work with laptop.
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Jan 9 2023, 12:00 PM
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LMAO
I went to ZUS. That was the first and last time This post has been edited by bananajoe: Jan 9 2023, 12:00 PM |
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Jan 9 2023, 12:00 PM
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cheaper price kopi but not quality .
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Jan 9 2023, 12:01 PM
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1,523 posts Joined: Apr 2005 From: too far to see |
hahaha...
no... |
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Jan 9 2023, 12:01 PM
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Jan 9 2023, 12:01 PM
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Kek shiok sendiri
Business always have ups and downs , so no need to show off especially young company We need Amazon coffee in Malaysia |
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Jan 9 2023, 12:03 PM
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Jan 9 2023, 12:04 PM
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What I'd like to know is how much are they bleeding
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Jan 9 2023, 12:04 PM
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Jan 9 2023, 12:06 PM
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Got a new player Kenangan
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Jan 9 2023, 12:08 PM
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I'm just a tongkat ali power root drinker. Never a fan tos Setapak or sus.
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Jan 9 2023, 12:08 PM
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zus not even real coffee, just another sugar laden crap like starbucks
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Jan 9 2023, 12:09 PM
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QUOTE(0300078 @ Jan 9 2023, 10:36 AM) honestly speaking lah.... Zus coffee all taste bad becoz of the sugar they used... but i think they actually do earn more... becoz a lot of their outlet just sell coffee and no seats for ppl to lepak whole day. Agreed, they serve different market needs - Starbucks is more towards co-working space and lepak place. ZUS cannot sit very long one (except perhaps the one at Datum Jelatek).Starbuck need expensive rental and always full of ppl that actually buy 1 coffee RM16++ and sit there 8 hrs. |
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Jan 9 2023, 12:10 PM
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Habislah TS this is confidential information and presentation. Waiting to kena sue by ZUS xiaomoon liked this post
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Jan 9 2023, 12:11 PM
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dunkin' iced coffee ftw
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Jan 9 2023, 12:11 PM
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Jan 9 2023, 12:11 PM
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QUOTE(0300078 @ Jan 9 2023, 10:36 AM) honestly speaking lah.... Zus coffee all taste bad becoz of the sugar they used... but i think they actually do earn more... becoz a lot of their outlet just sell coffee and no seats for ppl to lepak whole day. go Starbuck, much more good soundingStarbuck need expensive rental and always full of ppl that actually buy 1 coffee RM16++ and sit there 8 hrs. go Zus, Sus, no nice rhymes |
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Jan 9 2023, 12:11 PM
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2,036 posts Joined: Feb 2007 From: KL |
I just rank cafes based on the mabience and how cosy it is to do work in. Zus doesnt have much of that.
If i want good coffee i just make it myself. Like a simple boncafe brazilian is better than most of the coffee out there which are either burnt or are just sugar water. |
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Jan 9 2023, 12:12 PM
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Kesian….ownself drink sugary sweetened coffee mau blame Zus. Can opt for iced Americano or latte without sugar what
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Jan 9 2023, 12:15 PM
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Jan 9 2023, 12:16 PM
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Jan 9 2023, 12:17 PM
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Jan 9 2023, 12:21 PM
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QUOTE(vapanel @ Jan 9 2023, 11:59 AM) there's good and there's bad, some people here ask about their modus operandi, which I found quite similar to luckin, even the color, theme, outlet type, etc is pretty spot on.as for a deeper and more complicated answer, you have to read news about luckin coffee. aint risking my ass to get LOD-ed since its too early of a stage to be linking them to anything of the sort. so im just saying their outlet theme is pretty similar |
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Jan 9 2023, 12:22 PM
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QUOTE(-PuPu^ZaPruD3r- @ Jan 9 2023, 11:54 AM) I spend RM 200 a month on Starbucks.. ZUS coffee opened an outlet in front of my house... Tried it yesterday.. Ok lah, half price of Starbucks A few years ago I ordered a flat white from Starbucks. RM 6.90 for Americano.. Starbucks is RM 12.90 for Americano (depending on location) Got a cute and friendly amoi working in that ZUS outlet too. Maybe can convert from Starbucks to ZUS The staff gave me a latte instead of flat white 😒🙄 The coffee tasted terrible. So diluted and watered down. No coffee taste. I never go to Starbucks since then. Now I make my own coffee at home. I have a hand grinder and an espresso maker. I even went the extra mile and learned to roast my own coffee beans. |
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Jan 9 2023, 12:23 PM
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I've tried. Honestly, oklah boleh compete with starbucks but price-wise like no difference. Most people would just go starbucks.
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Jan 9 2023, 12:24 PM
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cheaper, yes.
higher quality, dont think so. but ayam not super pro in kopi. |
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Jan 9 2023, 12:27 PM
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Ts, trust me... you need to change phone. Iphone photo is better. haha
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Jan 9 2023, 12:29 PM
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3,575 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Kelana Jaya,Selangor/Muar,Johor |
Branded more important
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Jan 9 2023, 12:30 PM
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Jan 9 2023, 12:31 PM
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QUOTE(latipbogiba @ Jan 9 2023, 12:17 PM) i like gigi's buttercream latte. latipbogiba liked this post
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Jan 9 2023, 12:33 PM
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QUOTE(doremon @ Jan 9 2023, 10:39 AM) Starbuck can relax and enjoy the ambient. The rest is grab and go doremon liked this post
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Jan 9 2023, 12:34 PM
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Jan 9 2023, 12:35 PM
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QUOTE(CoffeeDude @ Jan 9 2023, 12:22 PM) A few years ago I ordered a flat white from Starbucks. your name does tellThe staff gave me a latte instead of flat white 😒🙄 The coffee tasted terrible. So diluted and watered down. No coffee taste. I never go to Starbucks since then. Now I make my own coffee at home. I have a hand grinder and an espresso maker. I even went the extra mile and learned to roast my own coffee beans. |
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Jan 9 2023, 12:36 PM
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Jan 9 2023, 12:38 PM
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Jan 9 2023, 12:40 PM
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5 cent dah bayaq?
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Jan 9 2023, 12:43 PM
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3,833 posts Joined: Oct 2006 From: Shah Alam |
lol syok sendiri create graph
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Jan 9 2023, 12:45 PM
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14 posts Joined: Oct 2014 From: Bandar Damai dan Indah |
Ini sembang sendiri
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Jan 9 2023, 12:46 PM
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Kopi kenangan mana kopi kenangan
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Jan 9 2023, 12:46 PM
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QUOTE(rummage @ Jan 9 2023, 10:36 AM) Nowadays need app for even sleep. JeremyLord liked this post
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Jan 9 2023, 12:47 PM
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I will stick with SB
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Jan 9 2023, 12:49 PM
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just make your own damn coffee at home la
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Jan 9 2023, 12:50 PM
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QUOTE(CoffeeDude @ Jan 9 2023, 12:22 PM) A few years ago I ordered a flat white from Starbucks. Different Starbucks has different QC.. Also, they have 5 tier pricing if not mistaken.. Can't remember during my previous job The staff gave me a latte instead of flat white 😒🙄 The coffee tasted terrible. So diluted and watered down. No coffee taste. I never go to Starbucks since then. Now I make my own coffee at home. I have a hand grinder and an espresso maker. I even went the extra mile and learned to roast my own coffee beans. U are unlucky to get lousy Starbucks.. Maybe go to another outlet and try again? Usually I will drink Nescafe Black Roast tin if I can't find Starbucks nearby My brain can't function without coffee LOL |
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Jan 9 2023, 12:50 PM
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Tealive better
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Jan 9 2023, 12:51 PM
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Jan 9 2023, 12:52 PM
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dua dua sampah
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Jan 9 2023, 12:52 PM
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102 posts Joined: Dec 2015 From: kolumpo |
pergi ikea beli barang sikit
claim coffee free letak creamer settle. ikea coffee not bad |
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Jan 9 2023, 12:53 PM
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i vote gigi and copi bean JeremyLord liked this post
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Jan 9 2023, 12:54 PM
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gigi > all
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the graph can trusted or not lol can openly show that xus is so better tahan starbuck,
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Jan 9 2023, 12:58 PM
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diam 7 la
kopi ikat tepi > all |
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Jan 9 2023, 12:58 PM
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Jan 9 2023, 01:00 PM
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i haven try.
but i can comfirm zues packing for delivery is the bestest of all... starbuck pulak veli degil...tell many times also dont wan to improve..fak em...now suffer jer la |
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Topkek. Tried once and never again. It was like I drank a cup of milk je.
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Jan 9 2023, 01:01 PM
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QUOTE(0300078 @ Jan 9 2023, 10:36 AM) honestly speaking lah.... Zus coffee all taste bad becoz of the sugar they used... but i think they actually do earn more... becoz a lot of their outlet just sell coffee and no seats for ppl to lepak whole day. both also many people, lack of privacy and noisy broStarbuck need expensive rental and always full of ppl that actually buy 1 coffee RM16++ and sit there 8 hrs. I prefer san fransisco |
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Jan 9 2023, 01:02 PM
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Jan 9 2023, 01:07 PM
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Seldom drink Starbucks these day, frequently go to gigi coffee instead
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Jan 9 2023, 01:12 PM
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I bancuh sendiri with serbuk kopi cap Tupai. Or if lazy, just throw a 434 kopi-o satchet and pout hot water
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Jan 9 2023, 01:12 PM
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Jan 9 2023, 01:15 PM
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Jan 9 2023, 01:23 PM
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QUOTE(poco loco @ Jan 9 2023, 01:00 PM) i haven try. Starbuck never target delivery market, thats why they don't want to change the way they pack. They focus on dine-in. but i can comfirm zues packing for delivery is the bestest of all... starbuck pulak veli degil...tell many times also dont wan to improve..fak em...now suffer jer la I beli starbucks for dine-in cos the price has included the environment cost, if we don't sit down to enjoy it's not worth it. |
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All these junk drink will cost you diabetes
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QUOTE(0300078 @ Jan 9 2023, 10:36 AM) honestly speaking lah.... Zus coffee all taste bad becoz of the sugar they used... but i think they actually do earn more... becoz a lot of their outlet just sell coffee and no seats for ppl to lepak whole day. Starbuck need expensive rental and always full of ppl that actually buy 1 coffee RM16++ and sit there 8 hrs. QUOTE(thankyou @ Jan 9 2023, 10:57 AM) Tried Zus but end up return to CBTL... Don't like the milk they are using at the moment. Zus also doesn’t use the real fresh milkI drink only latte/flat white so the taste of milk is very important They use those packed ones cheaper This post has been edited by pjbucket: Jan 9 2023, 01:35 PM |
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Jan 9 2023, 01:33 PM
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Zus Latte Vs Starbucks Latte, cheaper and nicer to me. But Starbucks has nicer environment overall.
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Jan 9 2023, 01:33 PM
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QUOTE(la bella @ Jan 9 2023, 01:23 PM) Starbuck never target delivery market, thats why they don't want to change the way they pack. They focus on dine-in. got many people just happy to carry the cup aroundI beli starbucks for dine-in cos the price has included the environment cost, if we don't sit down to enjoy it's not worth it. then take photo with background and a starbucks in hand dont understand those folks, but to each his own... if me id be doing some work or reading a book in starbucks of if CNY whole family go there have tea time chit chat abit This post has been edited by Knnbuccb: Jan 9 2023, 01:34 PM |
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Jan 9 2023, 01:47 PM
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It's really worth if you go Starbucks sit down for hours for its environment. Starbucks itself is a "style" so I think why ppl is happy to upload photo of them having Starbucks. Plus its prime location it's a big win compared to ZUS. I always see ZUS operate as a kiosk only in shopping mall or a intermediate shoplot in a business area. I actually buy both Starbucks and ZUS depends on what I need at that moment. But I think ZUS really syiok sendiri want to compare delivery market with Starbucks. Starbucks is not into delivery. ZUS can compare with Gigi they are similar I think. I like Gigi more cos I can choose what beans I want (Indonesia/Columbia). This post has been edited by la bella: Jan 9 2023, 01:50 PM tolongking liked this post
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Never try before .. how is this different than kopi kenangan?
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QUOTE(la bella @ Jan 9 2023, 01:47 PM) It's really worth if you go Starbucks sit down for hours for its environment. Exactly. I will never order takeout from Starbucks or drive thru. The whole point of buying overpriced coffee is for the customers to sit down to read a book or use a computer for hours. Can I do that at ZUS?Starbucks itself is a "style" so I think why ppl is happy to upload photo of them having Starbucks. Plus its prime location it's a big win compared to ZUS. I always see ZUS operate as a kiosk only in shopping mall or a intermediate shoplot in a business area. I actually buy both Starbucks and ZUS depends on what I need at that moment. But I think ZUS really syiok sendiri want to compare delivery market with Starbucks. Starbucks is not into delivery. ZUS can compare with Gigi they are similar I think. I like Gigi more cos I can choose what beans I want (Indonesia/Columbia). |
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Jan 9 2023, 01:55 PM
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Starbucks uses super automatic. ZUS uses semi-automatic.
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y no one rike bikmamah kopi?
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Jan 9 2023, 01:59 PM
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CBTL
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I dont mind to drink and spend my time in this SB outlet
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i think gigi coffee a bit better
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jan 9 2023, 01:15 PM) no need to even claim Ikea coffee no design big big face logo, so they dont like.. ikea let u drink their drink...coffee/tea/carbonated drink until u puke for RM2.50 MR_alien liked this post
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Jan 9 2023, 02:34 PM
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QUOTE(frossonice @ Jan 9 2023, 10:41 AM) Regular Zus coffee drinker here. Price wise, much better than Costa and Starbuck, obviously. Which Costa you drink? The machine one, or cafes like in Sunway Pyramid? The later one is marginally better than Starbucks. Machine one.....Taste wise, Zus is a bit burn but still taste a bit better than Starbuck. Tried GiGi before and I find it to be quite nice. Costa is stale nowadays. Others don't want to mention because there are not many branches of other brands around. I drink coffee with no sugar btw. frossonice and nonnon liked this post
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Jan 9 2023, 03:05 PM
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QUOTE(frossonice @ Jan 9 2023, 10:41 AM) Regular Zus coffee drinker here. Price wise, much better than Costa and Starbuck, obviously. I'm a americano coffee drinker too. Taste wise, Zus is a bit burn but still taste a bit better than Starbuck. Tried GiGi before and I find it to be quite nice. Costa is stale nowadays. Others don't want to mention because there are not many branches of other brands around. I drink coffee with no sugar btw. You really know how to differentiate the taste of these chains coffee. The first time I had ZUS it tasted burned. No joke I had to throw the americano coffee away in trash bin! Then one year latter it getting better, but it is just a normal dark-roasted coffee. Starbucks Americano I think the water-coffee ratio is wrong, too much water makes the americano too watery. I actually tell barista please don't add the hot water too full. Customise a bit it tasted good. At least it has stronger coffee taste. Or just add extra 1 shot lagi senang. Costa coffee I no longer drink. Used to drink at Shell petrol station. Same problem like starbucks the coffee-water ratio is wrong. Too much water. Worst is it's a dispenser machine cannot ask barista to customize. I think Gigi coffee americano is good. They let you choose what beans to use either Indonesia or Columbia. Must choose the Indonesia bean it has a very bold coffee taste. |
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sendiri chart sendiri syok
zus's black coffee just so so only rather top up a bit buy sb |
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Jan 9 2023, 03:12 PM
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QUOTE(Ichibanichi @ Jan 9 2023, 10:46 AM) Starbuck stick to their policies like comfy environment with elegant design thus it make ppl willing to pay premium price. Dont think that extra RM6 is enough to justify someone occupying a seat in your store for 3 - 6hrs.Zus going the mass opening strategy with kopitiam style environment. Work or not is very subjective depends on market acceptance. Btw, most of the coffee lover I know, they prefer self-brew |
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Jan 9 2023, 03:16 PM
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"Malaysia #1 Tech-Driven Coffee Chain"
whao, mimum kopi pun perlu high tech one. |
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Jan 9 2023, 03:21 PM
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both shit
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Jan 9 2023, 03:25 PM
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QUOTE(mw1980 @ Jan 9 2023, 03:18 PM) i smoke and i don't like it, i tasted a lot of coffee before and none of it gave me bad aftertaste like zus did They choose the beans which is too dark roast that left only ash taste.See post#207 I review chains coffee, I throw the ZUS americano coffee into trash bin the first time I drink. It just tasted bad. Haha. Their coffee with milk I think it is better, you won't tasted that much of burned taste. |
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Jan 9 2023, 03:29 PM
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I think Zus coffee is more like Malaysia’s luckin coffee instead of Malaysia’s Setapak
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i drink zus coffee but mcd latte and family mart latte is better
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Jan 9 2023, 04:27 PM
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but Zus to go bust first
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drank zus on 2019 in mid valley, really not bad
went to tried the recent new zus open near my house, very sweets, sxcks big time |
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CBTL nicer LOL
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Jan 9 2023, 04:33 PM
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went once, end up go gack setapak
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dunno how many time i spam their 1l bottle even buy for others
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Jan 9 2023, 04:42 PM
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Its useless to compare taste of big chain coffee. Because the taste will differ a lot depending on which shop you go to. I've been to CBTL that served me piping hot coffee-flavored milk when I ordered latte, but I cannot generalize that CBTL sucks, because what sucks is the barista that made that drink on that particular day. Also espresso is very precise, so if you happen to visit a shop with barista that doesn't give a shit about calibrating the grinder, it doesn't matter how quality the beans they use, the coffee will taste like shit. I usually only go to these big chain coffee shops to do adhoc work, so I will pick whichever has the best wifi and environment. JimbeamofNRT liked this post
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Starbucks is better and the service is way better than what others mentioned here like Gigi. Sometimes you pay not just for the drink but the service as well. If I ask SB to remake my drink for whatever reasons, 10/10 times they'll do it for me no questions asked. Also, Gigi obviously cheap out on their drinks. I ordered regular and butter cream latte once. Damn a lot of ice. Not the same for Starbucks (IMO). Gigi obviously can sell cheaper. Most of their stalls are pop-up unlike SB which is actual store. Taste wise is completely your preference. I like Starbucks better because I prefer bitterness and the slight burn taste. Unsurprisingly I love grilled foods too lol. PS: Fun facts about Gigi. This is actually their second or third try. Previously they tried with Caffe Bene which failed and another one I do not recall which failed. Now they try pop-up style because their previous style which has actual stores failed. The founder is Latexx founder's son who cashed out back in 2012. You can google Google "Low Bok Tek". Recently Low Bok Tek tried to re-enter glove industry "One Glove" which is obviously not doing well now due to glove glut. He's also former cofounders of KBES (Konsortium Bas Express) with his brothers. They have all cashed out their stake long ago. Actually, KBES already collapsed some time ago and Low Bok Tek bought substansial shares recently and rebranded it to One Glove. This is likely to take advantage of its already existing listing status in Bursa. Anyway, if you want, you can stalk the founder's (the son) IG profile @marcus_low This post has been edited by trojandude: Jan 9 2023, 04:47 PM FinalHistory and JimbeamofNRT liked this post
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Jan 9 2023, 04:47 PM
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i want try kenangan avocado coffee
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Jan 9 2023, 04:51 PM
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Dunno why so expensive 1 coffe. I go kopitiam rm2.5 only il0ve51 liked this post
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i find both brand also super sweet and no coffee taste. even i order americano with no sugar, no syrup, no glucose, no sweet but still end up with some sort of sweet. still hawker shop uncle kopi O kosong kaw best.
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Have to concur CBTL is best out of the three... wonder why ZUS's presentation never compare against CBTL?
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If this investor proposal?
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Jan 9 2023, 04:57 PM
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dont like both. just visit mamak je.
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I smell WeWork. Sell coffee, ask for IT-valuation. JimbeamofNRT liked this post
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I drink zeus coffee last time, straight headache.
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Jan 9 2023, 05:02 PM
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ZUS need to have more option
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Starbucks is obviously still more supporter because Marehsian generally like to potong kaki
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Nothing beat my ethiopia 2x daily wiht 160ml of steam fresh milk
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this is capital game
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Jan 9 2023, 05:09 PM
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i tried ZUS, glucose shoot up 10mmol/l LOL
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all 3 cannot match my home brew filtered ethiopia+kenya coffee =)
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who drink before june 2022 berdosa owai. mick84 liked this post
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QUOTE(KingArthurVI @ Jan 9 2023, 04:55 PM) Have to concur CBTL is best out of the three... wonder why ZUS's presentation never compare against CBTL? for a good cup of coffee, try Antipodean![]() JasonTheGreat liked this post
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Anyone swear by any brand of 3-in-1 white coffee that is so much cheaper n better than all these designer coffee?
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good coffee/espresso can only be brew at home using good grinder, good extraction, good beans and good technique. others so so only...
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QUOTE(trojandude @ Jan 9 2023, 04:44 PM) Starbucks is better and the service is way better than what others mentioned here like Gigi. marcus claimed that caffebene is a korean brand lelSometimes you pay not just for the drink but the service as well. If I ask SB to remake my drink for whatever reasons, 10/10 times they'll do it for me no questions asked. Also, Gigi obviously cheap out on their drinks. I ordered regular and butter cream latte once. Damn a lot of ice. Not the same for Starbucks (IMO). Gigi obviously can sell cheaper. Most of their stalls are pop-up unlike SB which is actual store. Taste wise is completely your preference. I like Starbucks better because I prefer bitterness and the slight burn taste. Unsurprisingly I love grilled foods too lol. PS: Fun facts about Gigi. This is actually their second or third try. Previously they tried with Caffe Bene which failed and another one I do not recall which failed. Now they try pop-up style because their previous style which has actual stores failed. The founder is Latexx founder's son who cashed out back in 2012. You can google Google "Low Bok Tek". Recently Low Bok Tek tried to re-enter glove industry "One Glove" which is obviously not doing well now due to glove glut. He's also former cofounders of KBES (Konsortium Bas Express) with his brothers. They have all cashed out their stake long ago. Actually, KBES already collapsed some time ago and Low Bok Tek bought substansial shares recently and rebranded it to One Glove. This is likely to take advantage of its already existing listing status in Bursa. Anyway, if you want, you can stalk the founder's (the son) IG profile @marcus_low but ok lah, gigi coffee is doing ok now ( from what I see, youngster like em ) |
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Jan 9 2023, 05:29 PM
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jan 9 2023, 01:15 PM) no need to even claim ikea let u drink their drink...coffee/tea/carbonated drink until u puke for RM2.50 QUOTE(nebula87 @ Jan 9 2023, 02:33 PM) I dont know if u guys notice it or not, but the last time I drink the rm2.50 coffee at the cafeteria, they already switch it to some kind of kopi o variantso no, no more Patar coffee for rm2.50 ![]() |
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Not a coffee drinker, but i tried taste Zus before, not that bad ekcelli, Starbuck go for free internet nia
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i only drink milo
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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Jan 9 2023, 05:29 PM) I dont know if u guys notice it or not, but the last time I drink the rm2.50 coffee at the cafeteria, they already switch it to some kind of kopi o variant not sure about thatso no, no more Patar coffee for rm2.50 ![]() but RM2.5 unlimited drinks....u can't really complain anything already |
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saupei la.. zus only tackle mareshian market, starbucks is worldwide.. do they even give a shiat
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he asking for investor fund is it?
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jan 9 2023, 05:49 PM) they already kiraonly couple of cheapskate uncles/aunties who can wallop so much drinks vs 1000 other customers who can drink one cup cost price probably 20 sen and under This post has been edited by JimbeamofNRT: Jan 9 2023, 06:07 PM |
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if kopi quality compare with starbucks then ok la
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QUOTE(KingArthurVI @ Jan 9 2023, 06:12 PM) Haha is that chain or indie coffee shop? If I'm serious about good coffee (e.g., wanting to bring friend from out of town go minum kopi) I'll bring them to small indie shops like Ome or Meraki in Penang. currently only got 4 branches. I think I started went there back in 2014good coffee defnitely, you can read their google review then ![]() |
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Because of Spanish fly.
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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Jan 9 2023, 05:16 PM) I occasionally visit the one at Menara Tan+Tan. Not bad. JimbeamofNRT liked this post
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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Jan 9 2023, 05:18 PM) Starbucks revenue was around rm900mil in 2022.This is Zus one. ![]() They are doing well, but I'd still say Starbucks don't even put them in category of contenders. JimbeamofNRT liked this post
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Starbucks is not impossible to beat. They have failed in several markets like Australia, Israel and Sweden due to local competitors and failure to adapt to local taste. Starbucks is generally overpriced, not that good and also easy to copy.
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I prefer Malaysia brand bungkus kaw kaw.
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Jan 9 2023, 06:51 PM
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QUOTE(0300078 @ Jan 9 2023, 10:36 AM) honestly speaking lah.... Zus coffee all taste bad becoz of the sugar they used... but i think they actually do earn more... becoz a lot of their outlet just sell coffee and no seats for ppl to lepak whole day. This farking trueStarbuck need expensive rental and always full of ppl that actually buy 1 coffee RM16++ and sit there 8 hrs. Wtf kind a shit taste of their coffee mang |
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zus sedaq tapi maneh sangat
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Jan 9 2023, 07:09 PM
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I am super old school bizman..
I really cant brain these type of "crowd funding" biz.. Recently spoken to a company representative.. Their are making losses, 2022 revenue around 8mil, and their 4 yo company "value at 48Mil" and crowd funded 10M last year. Damn my company did 20+m revenue, made 4M+, year to year growth more than 100% (partly due to 2021 covid year), then ma worth more 100M liao! 😂😂 Lai half price 50m siapa nak beli please PM. 😂😂 PS: not to boast but really cant brain crowd funding biz, allllll not making money one.. I think they only make money from investors. Old schooler like me still making honest profit from consumers. |
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Zus tasted like shit also peole love
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Jan 9 2023, 07:31 PM
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QUOTE(KingArthurVI @ Jan 9 2023, 06:12 PM) Haha is that chain or indie coffee shop? If I'm serious about good coffee (e.g., wanting to bring friend from out of town go minum kopi) I'll bring them to small indie shops like Ome or Meraki in Penang. antipodean is famous worldwide for good food and drinksbut prepare to pay |
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Jan 9 2023, 07:34 PM
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I tried ZUS coffee 1 time and thats the last time. Starbucks is way better, the coffee is rich n thicke. kukakoko liked this post
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Jan 9 2023, 08:10 PM
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Never into hipster coffee. Even mamaks & warung also rarely go.. Ended up make the drinks at home or buy canned Milo drinks at 7-11
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Jan 9 2023, 08:18 PM
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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Jan 9 2023, 05:25 PM) marcus claimed that caffebene is a korean brand lel It is but they brought it to Malaysia.but ok lah, gigi coffee is doing ok now ( from what I see, youngster like em ) JimbeamofNRT liked this post
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Jan 9 2023, 08:20 PM
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zus i ask for less sweet also still taste sweet huhu really potong kaki but their cbeans are kinda good JimbeamofNRT liked this post
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QUOTE(fuzzy @ Jan 9 2023, 06:42 PM) Starbucks revenue was around rm900mil in 2022. Yep. As for GIGI Coffee, they had a profit of 700k based on end-2021 Financial Result.This is Zus one. ![]() They are doing well, but I'd still say Starbucks don't even put them in category of contenders. Starbucks is way bigger than any of them. |
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QUOTE(tatabun @ Jan 9 2023, 08:20 PM) zus i ask for less sweet also still taste sweet huhu I'm going to state the obvious.really potong kaki but their cbeans are kinda good GIGI Coffee is obviously targeted to Malays. Malays generally have a sweeter tooth IMO. Not surprisingly GIGI drinks are sweeter than other brands. It's also the cheapest. At least according to statistics, Malays have the least buying power. GIGI is definitely not competing with Starbucks. Different market segment. IMO they won't be stealing Starbucks share of cake. edit: misread gigi for zus This post has been edited by trojandude: Jan 9 2023, 08:35 PM |
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QUOTE(peraxus @ Jan 9 2023, 08:18 PM) Kelantan got many homegrown cafe. Ada Nasken for starters. Never got the chance to try though. peraxus liked this post
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Jan 9 2023, 09:28 PM
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I only drink coffee shop kopi
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© 2022 ZUS COFFEE | Strictly Private and Confidential
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Jan 9 2023, 10:50 PM
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Jan 9 2023, 10:53 PM
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HWC and GIGI.
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Jan 9 2023, 11:05 PM
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I dont want to be labeled as "zussies".
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QUOTE(fuzzy @ Jan 9 2023, 06:42 PM) blockbuster once laughed off netflix, they don't consider netflix in the category of contenders. now they went bankruptyahoo once laughed off google and don't consider their algorithm to be able to compete with them. now their search engine is barely used don't always look down on the small guys because many giants in history was defeated by the small guys personally, in this case i don't think zus will bring down starbucks though |
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Jan 9 2023, 11:17 PM
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Zus latte and gigi coffee latte, is my go to now,
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Jan 9 2023, 11:31 PM
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QUOTE(DarkAeon @ Jan 9 2023, 11:17 PM) blockbuster once laughed off netflix, they don't consider netflix in the category of contenders. now they went bankrupt Except Blockbuster didn't laugh Netflix off. Even Hastings book mentioned as such. Netflix was a failing business with 50mil in debt, they went to Blockbuster and ask them to pay 50mil for Netflix, so meaning a deal to buy a company that let people rent DVDs online and they shipped it to the houses.yahoo once laughed off google and don't consider their algorithm to be able to compete with them. now their search engine is barely used don't always look down on the small guys because many giants in history was defeated by the small guys personally, in this case i don't think zus will bring down starbucks though It made no sense when Blockbuster also have their own website, own stores and customers doing the same thing. Of course Netflix took off when they were able to do streaming while Blockbuster was not able to pivot as fast. |
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Jan 9 2023, 11:40 PM
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QUOTE(fuzzy @ Jan 9 2023, 11:31 PM) Except Blockbuster didn't laugh Netflix off. Even Hastings book mentioned as such. Netflix was a failing business with 50mil in debt, they went to Blockbuster and ask them to pay 50mil for Netflix, so meaning a deal to buy a company that let people rent DVDs online and they shipped it to the houses. thats where blockbuster laughed at netflix, $50 million for a failing business? are u kidding me? u go sell a failing business for 50 million, of course other ppl will laugh at u laIt made no sense when Blockbuster also have their own website, own stores and customers doing the same thing. Of course Netflix took off when they were able to do streaming while Blockbuster was not able to pivot as fast. |
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QUOTE(DarkAeon @ Jan 9 2023, 11:17 PM) blockbuster once laughed off netflix, they don't consider netflix in the category of contenders. now they went bankrupt If Zus can invade USA and China then Starbucks can consider ggyahoo once laughed off google and don't consider their algorithm to be able to compete with them. now their search engine is barely used don't always look down on the small guys because many giants in history was defeated by the small guys personally, in this case i don't think zus will bring down starbucks though |
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Jan 9 2023, 11:55 PM
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Got franchise zus?
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ZUS only can beat starbuck in coffee. However food & merchandise ZUS sucks to max. Seating comfort, ambient also sucks
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Jan 10 2023, 12:05 AM
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An investor pitch like this really fail. A lot of buzzwords and promises, very little data that matters. Seems like following footsteps of Luckin Coffee. Starbucks is not successful because of one dimension, they have great supply chain, locations, marketing etc. Retailer101 liked this post
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QUOTE(Obosh @ Jan 10 2023, 12:05 AM) An investor pitch like this really fail. A lot of buzzwords and promises, very little data that matters. Seems like following footsteps of Luckin Coffee. Starbucks is not successful because of one dimension, they have great supply chain, locations, marketing etc. The entire session was blowing hot air onlyBig ego u see spike his hair wear white shirt u know just talk big Can roll eyes when he said best quality coffee beans Anyway all the best to Zus This post has been edited by Raddus: Jan 10 2023, 12:30 AM |
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Dono why all the sudden mesmerizing deli france/paris cappuccino and croissant aroma from the oven.
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jan 9 2023, 07:31 PM) Antipodean Coffee is a Kiwi owned and operated Cafe and Coffee Roasting company. The cafe business began in 2009 (Jakarta, Indonesia), the roasting business 2003 (Jakarta, Indonesia). We now have cafes in Kuala Lumpur, Hong Kong, Jakarta and Manila. Retailer101 liked this post
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16mil revenue only 500k profit sure mou lol Selectt and Retailer101 liked this post
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QUOTE(The Retailer @ Jan 9 2023, 07:09 PM) I am super old school bizman.. their valuation is always 5x I really cant brain these type of "crowd funding" biz.. Recently spoken to a company representative.. Their are making losses, 2022 revenue around 8mil, and their 4 yo company "value at 48Mil" and crowd funded 10M last year. Damn my company did 20+m revenue, made 4M+, year to year growth more than 100% (partly due to 2021 covid year), then ma worth more 100M liao! 😂😂 Lai half price 50m siapa nak beli please PM. 😂😂 PS: not to boast but really cant brain crowd funding biz, allllll not making money one.. I think they only make money from investors. Old schooler like me still making honest profit from consumers. so this year 8mil in 5 years time should be earning 40mil liao lol ... |
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just came to sabah kk couple months ago opening 1 outlet and within 2-3 months already open 4-5 outlets. crazy..
drinks are ok for the price la.. buy 1 free 1 for first time user.. got 2 numbers/phone can use 2 times lol |
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recently less patronize zus already coz they also price hike.
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see logo already know copycat brand Retailer101 liked this post
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QUOTE(Pulltea88 @ Jan 10 2023, 01:33 AM) Antipodean Coffee is a Kiwi owned and operated Cafe and Coffee Roasting company. The cafe business began in 2009 (Jakarta, Indonesia), the roasting business 2003 (Jakarta, Indonesia). We now have cafes in Kuala Lumpur, Hong Kong, Jakarta and Manila. I know the Antipodean guys- modest not say how much they make but I reckon 20%NP. ZUS is 3%NP? This doesn't make sense to me. Unless the principles taking money out before the bottom line. 3-5% is the model you would see in Sydney or Melbourne on a cafe/resto- ZUS should be hitting 25% NP |
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QUOTE(whoopa @ Jan 10 2023, 01:49 AM) Valuation is tricky. When appealing to crowd funding you can be emotive promise the world. Actually in retailing we say a brand is 8-12x NP. So assuming a 500,000rm 4-6,000,000. I cant see the brand being worth 40,000,000 - this is pipedream stuff and as several people have already said- beware the Luckin model. Look- I am not trashing ZUS they have done well but what does the brand offer that is unique? Nothing. This is the barrier for taking on the giants of the business and I am not talking Starbucks. I am talking Indian competition. Need to make unique. |
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QUOTE(trojandude @ Jan 10 2023, 01:49 AM) F&B is never easy. Thats about 3% profit margin. Also according to google (dunno can trust or not), average margin for coffee shop is 2.5% - 6% Good point- but not correct. In Malaysia a cafe model- not a complicated one like Yeast or Breakfast Thieves - but a coffee/wrap/cake system based on T/A and a customer count of +/- 100 pax/day should be able to hit a NP of 25-28%. In Indonesia the same model 38-42%. Philippines 12-15%. Only in Singapore. HK and the like would you ever expect a 3% NP - I would expect in Zus case (unless its being mismanaged which you would doubt) the low NP is because they are minimizing tax exposure. That makes sense on one hand- but can adversely affect investor confidence on the other. The appeal to these expanding new players is a potential institutional investor interest in the business- this isn't necessarily because of high NP or EBITDA % but more the coverage they have through Malaysia and the proven trackrecord of attracting massive crowdfunding interest. Retailer101 liked this post
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QUOTE(The Retailer @ Jan 9 2023, 07:09 PM) I am super old school bizman.. I really cant brain these type of "crowd funding" biz.. Recently spoken to a company representative.. Their are making losses, 2022 revenue around 8mil, and their 4 yo company "value at 48Mil" and crowd funded 10M last year. Damn my company did 20+m revenue, made 4M+, year to year growth more than 100% (partly due to 2021 covid year), then ma worth more 100M liao! 😂😂 Lai half price 50m siapa nak beli please PM. 😂😂 PS: not to boast but really cant brain crowd funding biz, allllll not making money one.. I think they only make money from investors. Old schooler like me still making honest profit from consumers. QUOTE(Retailer101 @ Jan 10 2023, 12:09 PM) I know the Antipodean guys- modest not say how much they make but I reckon 20%NP. ZUS is 3%NP? This doesn't make sense to me. Unless the principles taking money out before the bottom line. 3-5% is the model you would see in Sydney or Melbourne on a cafe/resto- ZUS should be hitting 25% NP Why you created so many accounts? |
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QUOTE(Retailer101 @ Jan 10 2023, 12:09 PM) I know the Antipodean guys- modest not say how much they make but I reckon 20%NP. ZUS is 3%NP? This doesn't make sense to me. Unless the principles taking money out before the bottom line. 3-5% is the model you would see in Sydney or Melbourne on a cafe/resto- ZUS should be hitting 25% NP Because they are earning more from investor side. And they are more interested to do so.Just my pov. Recently got more and more investors find me.. Maybe one day my biz NP 20+% become 2% also lmao. But personal income x50 |
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Even Nescafé is better than this
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Jan 10 2023, 08:22 PM
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Go to https://petakopi.my to see the list of freshly brewed coffee around you. Lots of small shops who are trying their best to serve real coffee
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Jan 10 2023, 08:35 PM
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i like the zirty latte
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Jan 10 2023, 08:36 PM
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Franchise selling coffee is always, GARBAGE.
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QUOTE(Retailer101 @ Jan 10 2023, 12:30 PM) Good point- but not correct. In Malaysia a cafe model- not a complicated one like Yeast or Breakfast Thieves - but a coffee/wrap/cake system based on T/A and a customer count of +/- 100 pax/day should be able to hit a NP of 25-28%. In Indonesia the same model 38-42%. Philippines 12-15%. Only in Singapore. HK and the like would you ever expect a 3% NP - I would expect in Zus case (unless its being mismanaged which you would doubt) the low NP is because they are minimizing tax exposure. That makes sense on one hand- but can adversely affect investor confidence on the other. The appeal to these expanding new players is a potential institutional investor interest in the business- this isn't necessarily because of high NP or EBITDA % but more the coverage they have through Malaysia and the proven trackrecord of attracting massive crowdfunding interest. I was gonna say the same thing. Considering how fast Zus is expanding, I think they might be reinvesting the profit hence the lowered profit margins? |
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I also tatse sekali jer zus and never went back anymore.nothing special,many other shop taste better.
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come to think about this, if their product is really great, then why they need to be so aggressive in gaining fundings? if they have a great product, then surely they will be able to grow and capture the market
if they so aggressive in gaining more fundings to expand, then most likely their product sucks and they are just finding waterfishes to fund the expansion of their company or brand |
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ZUS latte 200ML RM9.90 vs Starbucks Latte 590ML RM16.80
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lol zus. their coffee didn't even taste good.
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Lucky for me not a caffeine drinker, not really "dgaf"
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I've had the worst coffees with Zus. Will stick to Gigi and Starbucks /CB...
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Starbucks is the lowest benchmark for coffee
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QUOTE(blissd @ Jan 11 2023, 08:51 AM) I only drink black coffee, based on my coffee experience with the coffee chains you mentioned, I agreed with your opinion. CBTL has the best black coffee among the coffee chains you mentioned above, it is the most balanced taste coffee I ever had in coffee chains Gigi 2nd place cos they are better with the type of bean they offer (they let you choose choose indonesia or columbia beans) Followed by Starbucks, their fresh brew coffee (not from espresso machine) seasonal beans is really good, bold and flavorful. Need patient to wait cos the barista need time to start the brewing machine so it takes time. Starbucks americano coffee I commented many times it's too diluted with water. The worst black coffee i have to vote ZUS cos I throwed it into thrash bin the first time I minum. blissd liked this post
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Hope its not like Luckin
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Jan 12 2023, 08:26 PM
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Jan 12 2023, 08:27 PM
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Gigi pecan >>>>>>>>>>> all
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Jan 13 2023, 02:13 AM
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doesnt need much to have better quality than starbucks just fancy mamak kopi the branding though, it really depends on marketing |
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