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Any of you use other car brand's engine oil?, Nissan for Honda, Toyota for Nissan, etc
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TS27needles
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Jan 5 2023, 10:16 PM, updated 3y ago
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Have any of you used other car brand's engine oil for your different car brand before?I'm tempted to save some budget, and get maybe the slightly cheaper Nissan, or Toyota (same viscosity)'s engine oil, for my Honda Jazz GK3. I read online that, these oils are usually from the same source/factory, they just package the oil into different packaging for different car brands . Reason why I ask is because, I actually did try the Mitsubishi engine oil in my last oil change, on my Honda Jazz. And my butt thought it felt my Jazz's performance became weird , and had some weird acceleration feeling.. Not sure my butt is just confused or what. Any of you have any experience? or advice against doing so?If you wish to flame / shoot me for thinking too much - please feel free to do so ya . 🙏 I want to learn the truth. Enlighten me!!
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cempedaklife
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Jan 5 2023, 10:40 PM
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Yes. Im using aisin on my city now.
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Chrix
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Jan 5 2023, 10:59 PM
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Yes, as long viscosity within acceptable then ok.
I've never used manufacturer labelled engine oil in any of my cars
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SleeplessEyes
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Jan 5 2023, 11:21 PM
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Car manufacturers / brands do not manufacture the oil themselves.
Take Example Honda - They engage Idemitsu as their OEM oil supplier. Please correct me if I am outdated. Nissan - I heard / read that they are using Shell. Perodua - Petronas confirmed.
Right now I am using Mizu. Its a really good budget fully synthetic oil. Certified with genuine API . Not some recycled oil. Can buy straight from their Shopee / Lazada shop.
Only if your car is a conti car, then yes, its abit fussy. i.e VW must follow VW engine oil specs. Merc follow Merc oil specs.
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eddievh
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Jan 5 2023, 11:55 PM
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Right now I'm using mizu 0w20w for my 10years old car. Butt dyno feeling very good.
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ktek
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Jan 6 2023, 10:34 AM
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oil just oil. wrong grade also use it. if detect trouble u cannot open vtech. replace earlier lo
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RigerZ
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Jan 6 2023, 10:00 PM
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QUOTE(SleeplessEyes @ Jan 5 2023, 11:21 PM) Only if your car is a conti car, then yes, its abit fussy. i.e VW must follow VW engine oil specs. Merc follow Merc oil specs. What other oil specs do conti cars need to follow besides viscosity and API rating?
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ktek
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Jan 7 2023, 07:28 AM
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QUOTE(RigerZ @ Jan 6 2023, 10:00 PM) What other oil specs do conti cars need to follow besides viscosity and API rating? lifespan interval. match equal or more than computer preset reminder
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SleeplessEyes
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Jan 7 2023, 11:31 AM
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QUOTE(RigerZ @ Jan 6 2023, 10:00 PM) What other oil specs do conti cars need to follow besides viscosity and API rating? Hi Riger, I will quote a few specs as example below. There are several specs for each car manufacturer. VW 508.00/509.00This specification combo (508.00 for petrol, 509.00 for diesel) requires a 0W20 viscosity, fuel economy oil with long life additives. These specifications are NOT backward compatible with the eariler VW specifications. Recommended for the new 2.0 TFSI 140 kW and 3.0 TDI CR 160 kW VW/Audi engines. Source: https://www.oilspecifications.org/volkswagen.phpFor Merc MB 229.52Oils meeting this specifications must have lower ash content, at least 1% better fuel economy compared to the requirements of MB 229.31 and MB 229.51 and better oxidation stability for biofuel compatibility. Can also be used where an MB 229.31 or an MB 229.51 oil is required. Just like MB 229.5 and MB 229.51 this spec requires a long life oil. Source: https://www.oilspecifications.org/mercedes_mb.phpFor BMW: BMW Longlife-14+ (BMW LL-14+) Special motor oil for the following gasoline engines only: N20, Bx8 from model year 2014. Not allowed for diesel engines. https://www.oilspecifications.org/bmw.phpThis post has been edited by SleeplessEyes: Jan 7 2023, 11:31 AM
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RigerZ
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Jan 7 2023, 02:57 PM
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QUOTE(ktek @ Jan 7 2023, 07:28 AM) lifespan interval. match equal or more than computer preset reminder And where can we find this specification information? This post has been edited by RigerZ: Jan 7 2023, 02:59 PM
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linkinstreet
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Jan 7 2023, 08:33 PM
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Red Bull Addict
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QUOTE(SleeplessEyes @ Jan 7 2023, 11:31 AM) Hi Riger, I will quote a few specs as example below. There are several specs for each car manufacturer. VW 508.00/509.00This specification combo (508.00 for petrol, 509.00 for diesel) requires a 0W20 viscosity, fuel economy oil with long life additives. These specifications are NOT backward compatible with the eariler VW specifications. Recommended for the new 2.0 TFSI 140 kW and 3.0 TDI CR 160 kW VW/Audi engines. Source: https://www.oilspecifications.org/volkswagen.phpFor Merc MB 229.52Oils meeting this specifications must have lower ash content, at least 1% better fuel economy compared to the requirements of MB 229.31 and MB 229.51 and better oxidation stability for biofuel compatibility. Can also be used where an MB 229.31 or an MB 229.51 oil is required. Just like MB 229.5 and MB 229.51 this spec requires a long life oil. Source: https://www.oilspecifications.org/mercedes_mb.phpFor BMW: BMW Longlife-14+ (BMW LL-14+) Special motor oil for the following gasoline engines only: N20, Bx8 from model year 2014. Not allowed for diesel engines. https://www.oilspecifications.org/bmw.phpMercedes's engine oil are now just rebadged Petronas
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RigerZ
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Jan 7 2023, 10:01 PM
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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ Jan 7 2023, 08:33 PM) Mercedes's engine oil are now just rebadged Petronas Car manufacturers never made in-house engine oils to begin with
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SleeplessEyes
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Jan 7 2023, 11:27 PM
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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ Jan 7 2023, 08:33 PM) Mercedes's engine oil are now just rebadged Petronas I wouldnt call it rebadge. Its because its known fact that Petronas is their official sponsor and partnership for their Mercedes-AMG Petronas Formula One Team Just like Shell and Ferrari partnership.
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DupeIkan
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Jan 9 2023, 12:06 PM
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QUOTE(SleeplessEyes @ Jan 5 2023, 11:21 PM) Car manufacturers / brands do not manufacture the oil themselves. Take Example Honda - They engage Idemitsu as their OEM oil supplier. Please correct me if I am outdated. Nissan - I heard / read that they are using Shell. Perodua - Petronas confirmed. Right now I am using Mizu. Its a really good budget fully synthetic oil. Certified with genuine API . Not some recycled oil. Can buy straight from their Shopee / Lazada shop. Only if your car is a conti car, then yes, its abit fussy. i.e VW must follow VW engine oil specs. Merc follow Merc oil specs. Nissan used to be Total, now by castrol iinm for semi-syn
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minoru89
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Jan 11 2023, 07:20 PM
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QUOTE(SleeplessEyes @ Jan 7 2023, 11:27 PM) I wouldnt call it rebadge. Its because its known fact that Petronas is their official sponsor and partnership for their Mercedes-AMG Petronas Formula One Team Just like Shell and Ferrari partnership. Yes not rebadge, as the R&D is made by Petronas. Unlike old Proton case rebadge mitsubishi
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prokiller1199
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Jan 11 2023, 10:50 PM
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Toyota use which brand oil? Never heard of this brand before but my mechanic don't know go where import. They say it's a good brand. Keep promoting. https://thebeast.quv.kr/13 5W-40 This post has been edited by prokiller1199: Jan 11 2023, 10:51 PM
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DupeIkan
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Jan 12 2023, 07:33 AM
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QUOTE(prokiller1199 @ Jan 11 2023, 10:50 PM) Toyota use which brand oil? Never heard of this brand before but my mechanic don't know go where import. They say it's a good brand. Keep promoting. https://thebeast.quv.kr/13 5W-40 Promote cos get cut lor
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teslaman
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Jan 12 2023, 07:36 AM
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QUOTE(27needles @ Jan 5 2023, 10:16 PM) Have any of you used other car brand's engine oil for your different car brand before?I'm tempted to save some budget, and get maybe the slightly cheaper Nissan, or Toyota (same viscosity)'s engine oil, for my Honda Jazz GK3. I read online that, these oils are usually from the same source/factory, they just package the oil into different packaging for different car brands . Reason why I ask is because, I actually did try the Mitsubishi engine oil in my last oil change, on my Honda Jazz. And my butt thought it felt my Jazz's performance became weird , and had some weird acceleration feeling.. Not sure my butt is just confused or what. Any of you have any experience? or advice against doing so?If you wish to flame / shoot me for thinking too much - please feel free to do so ya . 🙏 I want to learn the truth. Enlighten me!!  Change back the oil
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ayamxxx
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Jan 12 2023, 10:22 AM
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QUOTE(eddievh @ Jan 5 2023, 11:55 PM) Right now I'm using mizu 0w20w for my 10years old car. Butt dyno feeling very good. Same on 2015 Accord. Best bang for money
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abubin
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Jan 13 2023, 04:35 PM
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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Jan 12 2023, 10:22 AM) Same on 2015 Accord. Best bang for money Mizu oil doesn't last long. After 5000km, can feel it's a bit rough already. For the price, it is good enough. I use mizu for doing engine oil flushing...LOL.
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ayamxxx
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Jan 13 2023, 05:08 PM
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QUOTE(abubin @ Jan 13 2023, 04:35 PM) Mizu oil doesn't last long. After 5000km, can feel it's a bit rough already. For the price, it is good enough. I use mizu for doing engine oil flushing...LOL. Just a normal fully synthetic oil, as long as genuine, it is ok. I don't believe in engine oil flushing, it just bad for environment and my wallet. I believe and read EO already contained more than enough engine cleaning properties inside.
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chemistry
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Jan 14 2023, 02:24 AM
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QUOTE(abubin @ Jan 13 2023, 04:35 PM) Mizu oil doesn't last long. After 5000km, can feel it's a bit rough already. For the price, it is good enough. I use mizu for doing engine oil flushing...LOL. add 0.5% synthetic base oil -> marketed as fully synthetic add 5% synthetic base oil , also a fully synthetic No one really go to analyze whether an oil contain how much synthetic base stock ridiculous part is , really got people believe "fully synthetic EO" means the whole content is fully synthetic material This post has been edited by chemistry: Jan 14 2023, 02:26 AM
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ayamxxx
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Jan 14 2023, 07:16 AM
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The oil company need to meet plenty of standard regulations, API SP, SN, plus the ISO standard. Be a smart customer in future than simply give untruth statement
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