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post Jan 5 2023, 12:47 PM, updated 3y ago

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Ayam been having some shoulder pain for some time now. Not too painful that I need to go doctor, just uncomfortable. Amoi at my workplace suggest ayam go do acupuncture. Anyone got experience before? Legit or just Chinese version of bomoh?
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post Jan 5 2023, 12:51 PM

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actually Gov Hospital Putrajaya, got Chinese Transitional Medicine dept do acupuncture,.. sent my mum there b4,.. around rm20 per session,..

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post Jan 5 2023, 12:57 PM

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if your brain thinks it will help, it will help.
placebo effect is real.

if you think its a sham, it wont work at all.

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QUOTE(Cincai lar @ Jan 5 2023, 12:51 PM)
actually Gov Hospital Putrajaya, got Chinese Transitional Medicine dept do acupuncture,.. sent my mum there b4,.. around rm20 per session,..
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need referal la boss, good luck getting a referal from most medical doctor.
but if we are talking psychiatrist and psychologist, yes they can refer them if you want to try those therapy. medication and cbt are not the only treatment out there.
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QUOTE(debonairs91 @ Jan 5 2023, 12:47 PM)
Ayam been having some shoulder pain for some time now. Not too painful that I need to go doctor, just uncomfortable. Amoi at my workplace suggest ayam go do acupuncture. Anyone got experience before? Legit or just Chinese version of bomoh?
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post Jan 5 2023, 01:06 PM

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Tongshin n some gov hospital even got malay doc/student for tcm , apa malu

Actually i oso want go for treatment but more like check up n dun feel like q-up with old folk that really need em
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QUOTE(zerorating @ Jan 5 2023, 01:03 PM)
need referal la boss, good luck getting a referal from most medical doctor.
but if we are talking psychiatrist and psychologist, yes they can refer them if you want to try those therapy. medication and cbt are not the only treatment out there.
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my mum got referral from orthopedic,..for pain management,..
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post Jan 5 2023, 01:10 PM

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it works.

only find someone certified to do it.
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post Jan 5 2023, 01:13 PM

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Acupuncture got license and certification la...
Ccp already say,
Less that 10% is certified.....Real punya...
The rest is fake aka visit at you own risk.....

Just like 1 of massager that my sis visit every week.....
Must go every week, other doctor med can't take, and must go him there.....
Me and my mother like wtf.....

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post Jan 5 2023, 01:13 PM

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try chiropractic too
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post Jan 5 2023, 01:14 PM

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if u ask, means you are not that pain enuff

to try to do anything to stop it
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post Jan 5 2023, 01:16 PM

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scam.

if traditional chinese medicine works, we would just call it medicine and practice it in hospitals and medical fields.


instead we have shamans pushing the concept of hot and cold, poking needles into Qi points and all these rubbish which isnt backed by science.
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post Jan 5 2023, 01:16 PM

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is it left or right shoulder? the arm also?
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post Jan 5 2023, 01:16 PM

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The ones in tung shin is legit. Mum had back pain few years back, went to specialist they said need surgery. Went for Acupunture at Tung Shin after 3 months her back is as good as new. Carry grandchildren also no back pain now.
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post Jan 5 2023, 01:19 PM

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I went to one to fix my lower back pain, couple of sessions fixes it...

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post Jan 5 2023, 01:22 PM

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Acupuncture probably can give you temporary symptomatic relief. Go get help from orthopedic lah. If don’t want, then get a proper chiro lah
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post Jan 5 2023, 01:24 PM

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legit than seiko 4k box setori
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post Jan 5 2023, 01:45 PM

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QUOTE(Cincai lar @ Jan 5 2023, 12:51 PM)
actually Gov Hospital Putrajaya, got Chinese Transitional Medicine dept do acupuncture,.. sent my mum there b4,.. around rm20 per session,..
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QUOTE(lawliet88 @ Jan 5 2023, 01:06 PM)
Tongshin n some gov hospital even got malay doc/student for tcm , apa malu

Actually i oso want go for treatment but more like check up n dun feel like q-up with old folk that really need em
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Wah really ah? Didn't know that

QUOTE(anakkk @ Jan 5 2023, 01:13 PM)
try chiropractic too
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Chiro is the one thing I'm pretty sure is a scam
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post Jan 5 2023, 02:18 PM

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QUOTE(genjo @ Jan 5 2023, 01:10 PM)
it works.

only find someone certified to do it.
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Suggest good one?
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post Jan 5 2023, 02:19 PM

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QUOTE(ycs @ Jan 5 2023, 01:16 PM)
is it left or right shoulder? the arm also?
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Left shoulder spread abit to upper arm la
Why?
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post Jan 5 2023, 02:27 PM

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QUOTE(debonairs91 @ Jan 5 2023, 02:19 PM)
Left shoulder spread abit to upper arm la
Why?
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i got a relative, also left shoulder pain sometimes whole arm shooting pain, doc says its due to nerves but ...
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post Jan 5 2023, 02:56 PM

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QUOTE(ycs @ Jan 5 2023, 02:27 PM)
i got a relative, also left shoulder pain sometimes whole arm shooting pain, doc says its due to nerves but ...
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But?? You think doc give wrong diagnosis?
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QUOTE(debonairs91 @ Jan 5 2023, 03:56 PM)
But?? You think doc give wrong diagnosis?
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Just today i went to see doctor due to sore throat.

I am clearly know what is happening of my sickness with the wish of visit doctor to get medicine since i got company medical card

I told him it is due to my nose allergic and it causes me sinus and it causes my throat to be sore. Yeah it is correct even the doctor said so.

Then he asked, do you need antibiotic?

Replied "how should i know, u are the doctor not me" (well obviously antibiotic is needed but he still ask me this basic question)

Then he did not offered anything to relieve my throat until i asked him for lozenges.

So i believe there are alot doctors outside got permit also noob
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post Jan 5 2023, 03:04 PM

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I know 2 chinese massage sifu at USJ 2, my whole family went there for any kind of muscle pain or uncomfortable, many Malay also visit them. If u are interested can PM me, i can give u their contact
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post Jan 5 2023, 03:10 PM

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QUOTE(debonairs91 @ Jan 5 2023, 01:47 PM)
Ayam been having some shoulder pain for some time now. Not too painful that I need to go doctor, just uncomfortable. Amoi at my workplace suggest ayam go do acupuncture. Anyone got experience before? Legit or just Chinese version of bomoh?
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before recommend .
need to understand the cause /reason . what did western doc say ??



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post Jan 5 2023, 03:12 PM

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QUOTE(debonairs91 @ Jan 5 2023, 02:56 PM)
But?? You think doc give wrong diagnosis?
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post Jan 5 2023, 03:15 PM

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QUOTE(Kaya Butter Toast @ Jan 5 2023, 01:16 PM)
scam.

if traditional chinese medicine works, we would just call it medicine and practice it in hospitals and medical fields.
instead we have shamans pushing the concept of hot and cold, poking needles into Qi points and all these rubbish which isnt backed by science.
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Not scam la, a lot of traditional herbs are extracted for medicinal purposes, like cordyceps and many more.

Acupuncture is as old as Shang dynasty, ya it works when I strain my neck. But have to go few times to fully recover.

But of course got ppl scam la, best go the the store where even Malays, indo, paki go.
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post Jan 5 2023, 03:17 PM

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QUOTE(The_Rock @ Jan 5 2023, 01:03 PM)
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post Jan 5 2023, 03:17 PM

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To all those unbelievers, stick to your thinking, continue with your pain, their biz is so good they dont need you.
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post Jan 5 2023, 03:19 PM

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frozen shoulder?
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post Jan 5 2023, 03:20 PM

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If you have headache, you press your forehead, it feels better, right?

That is acupressure. Acupuncture is acupressure using needles (and more effective).

Moxibustion is acupuncture using heat...
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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ Jan 5 2023, 03:19 PM)
wad ghost movie is this lol
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Jack neo movie
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post Jan 5 2023, 03:21 PM

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my neck always pain, go chiro kena krak krak then guna the acupuncture needle cucuk let the angin out really feel a lot better
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post Jan 5 2023, 03:23 PM

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legit, but the doctor mayb a scam...
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post Jan 5 2023, 03:23 PM

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wont tell acupuncture a scam, but cant really claim its scientifically proven, however stimulus in whatever form helps in many cases.
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QUOTE(YH1234 @ Jan 5 2023, 03:23 PM)
wont tell acupuncture a scam, but cant really claim its scientifically proven, however stimulus in whatever form helps in many cases.
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Not I say one but John Hopkins say.

https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/well...0(NIH,Addiction
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QUOTE(Kaya Butter Toast @ Jan 5 2023, 01:16 PM)
scam.

if traditional chinese medicine works, we would just call it medicine and practice it in hospitals and medical fields.
instead we have shamans pushing the concept of hot and cold, poking needles into Qi points and all these rubbish which isnt backed by science.
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If acupuncture is a scam, I doubt Johns Hopkins will put it on their website.

https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/well...0(NIH,Addiction
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legit

many years back ayam had migraine taken pandadol, wented clinic all 404

wented Tung Shin Hospital, once only kao tim
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post Jan 5 2023, 03:49 PM

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QUOTE(scorptim @ Jan 5 2023, 01:16 PM)
The ones in tung shin is legit. Mum had back pain few years back, went to specialist they said need surgery. Went for Acupunture at Tung Shin after 3 months her back is as good as new. Carry grandchildren also no back pain now.
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QUOTE(guailow83 @ Jan 5 2023, 03:35 PM)
legit

many years back ayam had migraine taken pandadol, wented clinic all 404

wented Tung Shin Hospital, once only kao tim
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Two people mentioned tung shin but review quite low at 3.3. Maybe too many people there. Need to find other tcm center
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post Jan 5 2023, 03:58 PM

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QUOTE(debonairs91 @ Jan 5 2023, 03:49 PM)
Two people mentioned tung shin but review quite low at 3.3. Maybe too many people there. Need to find other tcm center
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Their acupuncturists skills are good but it’s a really crowded hospital. Waiting time is almost like govt hospital as price is also cheaper than most TCM clinics, if go on weekends confirm have to go early and you probably get your turn by around noon. Can’t expect to get serviced fast like other TCM clinics but it’s worth the wait.
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QUOTE(Kaya Butter Toast @ Jan 5 2023, 01:16 PM)
scam.

if traditional chinese medicine works, we would just call it medicine and practice it in hospitals and medical fields.
instead we have shamans pushing the concept of hot and cold, poking needles into Qi points and all these rubbish which isnt backed by science.
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ppl like u shud talk less
for some ppl who tried acupunture n recover from it
its god send

ts just go
find reputable ones

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QUOTE(Kaya Butter Toast @ Jan 5 2023, 01:16 PM)
scam.

if traditional chinese medicine works, we would just call it medicine and practice it in hospitals and medical fields.
instead we have shamans pushing the concept of hot and cold, poking needles into Qi points and all these rubbish which isnt backed by science.
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Not so easy la, medical field is darker than it seems and it's all about $$$. TCM works but it is harder to make big bucks.

If there's a pill A that can cure cancer with 1 consumption &
a Pill B that can "control" cancer but you have to eat it for the rest of your life

Nobody would develop and sell pill A
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post Jan 5 2023, 04:08 PM

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I twisted my neck before,do 1 or 2 times then recover many syukur
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QUOTE(moiskyrie @ Jan 5 2023, 01:13 PM)
Acupuncture got license and certification la...
Ccp already say,
Less that 10% is certified.....Real punya...
The rest is fake aka visit at you own risk.....

Just like 1 of massager that my sis visit every week.....
Must go every week, other doctor med can't take, and must go him there.....
Me and my mother like wtf.....
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this one confirm massage something else

guys got batin massage

girls got their own massage too
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QUOTE(Namelessone1973 @ Jan 5 2023, 03:31 PM)
i dont know what i said is really that diff with your cited article.

no one knows if 经络/穴位 (acupuncture point) exist. thats what i mean its not scientifically proven, moreover similar to traditional medicine, it helps and not depending on many unknown or unexplainable reason. i tend to agree with my cousin who is a tcm practitioner, he said we cant simply claim something is scam or fake because it cant be proven, sometimes experience may equally capable to justify in some cases.

tcm is always the second or alternative choice, no?
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Legit.

Tried before for arm numbness for a period of two months. Went for acupuncture for every other day during this period.
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Legit

MIL old person backache, very painful.
Hosp. specialist say no cure and cannot do surgery coz old, can only eat painkiller.

Went to few sessions accupunture at Puchong, some sifu from China, pain gone can walk again.

Specialist was surprised.

Sekian true story.
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QUOTE(smallcrab @ Jan 5 2023, 04:54 PM)
Legit

MIL old person backache, very painful.
Hosp. specialist say no cure and cannot do surgery coz old, can only eat painkiller.

Went to few sessions accupunture at Puchong, some sifu from China, pain gone can walk again.

Specialist was surprised.

Sekian true story.
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Location mana?
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Some TCM shop at puchong jaya there. Forgot the name.
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QUOTE(scorptim @ Jan 5 2023, 03:58 PM)
Their acupuncturists skills are good but it’s a really crowded hospital. Waiting time is almost like govt hospital as price is also cheaper than most TCM clinics, if go on weekends confirm have to go early and you probably get your turn by around noon. Can’t expect to get serviced fast like other TCM clinics but it’s worth the wait.
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How much is it? Actually most tcm clinic how much is the cost? I'm expecting around rm100 per session?
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QUOTE(debonairs91 @ Jan 5 2023, 05:14 PM)
How much is it? Actually most tcm clinic how much is the cost? I'm expecting around rm100 per session?
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It really depends on your condition, the acupuncture itself usually is within RM50 (at tung shin) but there will be extra cost for the medicine and that one really varies depending on what type of herbs are prescribed and whether you choose to take raw herbs or the pre-prepared ones.

In total I’d say expect to be charged more than a GP visit coz usually they will prescribe at least 1-2 weeks worth of medication. Bear in mind TCM is more focused on continuous maintenance of the body rather than a quick fix. So the medication period recommended can be longer. Even if you already feel ok and good the doctor may still prescribe some herbs for you to continue to take for another few weeks/months which I recommend to just follow. Like my mum case also actually after the first month her back ok already, but doc still ask to go follow up until 3 months and continued to prescribe herbs. Even now every 6 months she still go for acupuncture sessions as recommended.

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QUOTE(God Grid @ Jan 5 2023, 04:10 PM)
this one confirm massage something else

guys got batin massage

girls got their own massage too
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that why lol....
my family already say kena scam liao....
but her and husband still want go....
no hope liao....
we say like cult liao...
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acupuncture is proven la, if not garment hospital wont have it
even the MOH doctors refer people to TCM in hospitals that have it
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QUOTE(God Grid @ Jan 5 2023, 04:10 PM)
this one confirm massage something else

guys got batin massage

girls got their own massage too
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go search yoni massat

last time a couple stupidly pay the guy to do it

when i found out , i scolded the girl because i said i can do for free lol
plus the massage guy is an old uncle, claim learn in sweden india etc fk la i watch JAV also know
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QUOTE(scorptim @ Jan 5 2023, 05:20 PM)
It really depends on your condition, the acupuncture itself usually is within RM50 (at tung shin) but there will be extra cost for the medicine and that one really varies depending on what type of herbs are prescribed and whether you choose to take raw herbs or the pre-prepared ones.

In total I’d say expect to be charged more than a GP visit coz usually they will prescribe at least 1-2 weeks worth of medication. Bear in mind TCM is more focused on continuous maintenance of the body rather than a quick fix. So the medication period recommended can be longer. Even if you already feel ok and good the doctor may still prescribe some herbs for you to continue to take for another few weeks/months which I recommend to just follow. Like my mum case also actually after the first month her back ok already, but doc still ask to go follow up until 3 months and continued to prescribe herbs. Even now every 6 months she still go for acupuncture sessions as recommended.
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Thank you. RM50 is rather cheap. I've been paying 100+ per session to donno how many physio still not cured. Hopefully acupuncture can cure this shit
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QUOTE(Momo33 @ Jan 5 2023, 03:10 PM)
before recommend .
need to understand the cause /reason  .  what did western doc say ??
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Went clinic doctor say muscle pain always give muscle relaxant la, painkiller la, anti inflammatory la
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QUOTE(moiskyrie @ Jan 5 2023, 05:24 PM)
that why lol....
my family already say kena scam liao....
but her and husband still want go....
no hope liao....
we say like cult liao...
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QUOTE(Knnbuccb @ Jan 5 2023, 07:01 PM)
go search yoni massat

last time a couple stupidly pay the guy to do it

when i found out , i scolded the girl because i said i can do for free lol
plus the massage guy is an old uncle, claim learn in sweden india etc fk la i watch JAV also know
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Oh yea, heard about it before

Knn, only sohai go pay for it

Hahahaha
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QUOTE(God Grid @ Jan 5 2023, 10:05 PM)
Oh yea, heard about it before

Knn, only sohai go pay for it

Hahahaha
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Most sohai thing is the woman actually piappable type .. got workout one.. face on pleasant. 6.5/10 that type... Go pay few hundred for people to masat her down there wtfffff some more said one time one of the masseur go curi curi put his D inside while she high....I heard alrdy damn jelly maybe I had some feelings for her....


But ironically, hypocritically, before that couple did yoni massage, I actually got advertised myself as a masseur in wechat before , near my uni final exam time...

Topkek but only got one china tourist auntie used my service. Hahahahaha good times man. Paid me rm100 for 1h of massage and piap, auntie was like 5/10 kind I just piap je la because it was business.

Then I decided it was a waste of time and concentrated on my final exam luckily pass topkek imagine people ask why I fail is because I was doing side business as gigolo

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QUOTE(debonairs91 @ Jan 5 2023, 07:10 PM)
Thank you. RM50 is rather cheap. I've been paying 100+ per session to donno how many physio still not cured. Hopefully acupuncture can cure this shit
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Your total cost with the medicine etc might be 100++ to 200++ depending on the type of medicine prescribed tho fyi.
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QUOTE(Cincai lar @ Jan 5 2023, 12:51 PM)
actually Gov Hospital Putrajaya, got Chinese Transitional Medicine dept do acupuncture,.. sent my mum there b4,.. around rm20 per session,..
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your mum hnnghh or not?
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depends whats the problem, some very efficient, some completely useless.
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QUOTE(God Grid @ Jan 5 2023, 10:05 PM)
Oh yea, heard about it before

Knn, only sohai go pay for it

Hahahaha
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Aiyo...
Got 1 customer....
Operate guest house at tourist spot....
Also provide those yoga/etc service, forgot what it called liao....
He teach how to do that thing and how to reach climax.....
Fee cost few thousand...
I like wtf....
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post Jan 6 2023, 08:52 AM

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QUOTE(debonairs91 @ Jan 5 2023, 01:45 PM)
Wah really ah? Didn't know that
Chiro is the one thing I'm pretty sure is a scam
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then all the best to you
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post Jan 6 2023, 08:55 AM

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Itself alone is a scum but heresy / self hypnosis is true. Once believe in heresy human body is able to health itself to certain extend.
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post Jan 6 2023, 09:02 AM

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if it is physiology needling, then i think it helps. like those done to sportsmen/women
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post Jan 6 2023, 11:22 AM

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QUOTE(moiskyrie @ Jan 6 2023, 07:18 AM)
Aiyo...
Got 1 customer....
Operate guest house at tourist spot....
Also provide those yoga/etc service, forgot what it called liao....
He teach how to do that thing and how to reach climax.....
Fee cost few thousand...
I like wtf....
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these days very easy to scam people and earn money

this one can scam and get to eat too

so syok
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post Jan 6 2023, 08:21 PM

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QUOTE(anakkk @ Jan 6 2023, 08:52 AM)
then all the best to you
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It's like others said, you see in hospital tcm and physio branch. But you never see chiro branch in any hospital. Then the fact that they make you sign waiver before your chiro session itself is suspicious
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post Jan 6 2023, 08:26 PM

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highly dependent on the TCM doctor doing the acupuncture.
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post Jan 6 2023, 08:33 PM

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QUOTE(Penamer @ Jan 6 2023, 08:26 PM)
highly dependent on the TCM doctor doing the acupuncture.
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Suggest where good tcm doctor?
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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ Jan 5 2023, 03:19 PM)
wad ghost movie is this lol
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Gurmit Singh one

 

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