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post Jun 20 2008, 02:24 PM

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QUOTE(madmoz @ Jun 20 2008, 01:41 PM)
One of the young pretenders to the crown losses to the grim old giant... wonder what fate will befall the second of the attack minded trio? Should Spain lose tonight, then it'll be holland left...
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Tonight? Isn't Croatia v Turkey tonight?
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post Jun 20 2008, 02:27 PM

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QUOTE(madmoz @ Jun 20 2008, 02:26 PM)
Oops, my bad then. The Spanish game's tomorrow then?
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The last quarterfinal iinm. Holland plays tomorrow.
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post Jun 22 2008, 03:25 PM

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After the results of the recent quarterfinals I'm getting abit more worried for Spain. I really hope that the players turn up on the day.
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post Jun 22 2008, 08:29 PM

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Pirlo is suspended so that should help us. With Villa and Torres upfront we should be able to score.
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post Jun 23 2008, 03:36 AM

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QUOTE(faris21 @ Jun 23 2008, 02:45 AM)
all Spain player in the pitch not singing national anthem while Italian player sing with feeling doh.gif
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What are they supposed to sing? Spanish anthem has no words shakehead.gif
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post Jun 23 2008, 04:41 AM

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QUOTE(faris21 @ Jun 23 2008, 03:53 AM)
really??why i can see Alonso`s mouth like singing when win in F1 rclxub.gif
i tot this is Spanish Anthem
Viva Espana
Cantemos todos juntos
con distinta voz
y un solo corazón

Viva Espana
desde los verdes valles
al inmenso mar,
un himno de hermandad

Ama a la patria
pues sabe abrazar,
bajo su cielo azul,
pueblos en libertad

Gloria a los hijos
que a la Historia dan
justicia y grandeza
democracia y paz
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I have no idea where u got that from laugh.gif

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La Marcha Real ("The Royal March") is the national anthem of Spain. It is one of the few national anthems in the world to have no official lyrics.


Damn Italians with their negative football. Go Espana!
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post Jun 23 2008, 05:21 AM

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YES!!!
SAN IKER!!!
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post Jun 23 2008, 05:23 AM

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The better team won cool2.gif
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post Jun 23 2008, 05:32 AM

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Russia are a different team now to the one we faced in the 1st game. Ramos up against Arshavin brows.gif
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post Jun 23 2008, 05:38 AM

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QUOTE(zeronehza @ Jun 23 2008, 05:36 AM)
next game aragones should play xabi alonso...  not iniesta .. he seems careless in control the ball..
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Xabi playing in the wings? lol I don't think that will work. Cazorla should start the next game. Iniesta has been poor so far.
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post Jun 23 2008, 05:42 AM

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QUOTE(zeronehza @ Jun 23 2008, 05:40 AM)
xavi on the wing.. xabi on the center tongue.gif
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I don't think that will work either laugh.gif
Just bench Xavi as well cool2.gif
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post Jun 23 2008, 10:42 AM

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I thought Ramos had a decent game. He lost possession one or two times but it was mostly in the center of the field not in the deep end. He played some nice passes out of defence too so I don't really get where all the negativity is coming from. He didn't contribute much going forward; it seemed like Aragones had him tied on a leash as he hardly bombed forward like he does for us.


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QUOTE(madmoz @ Jun 23 2008, 10:40 AM)
I on the other hand think Ramos is slowly improving... at least he tries to defend nowadays as compared to the opening game against russia.
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I think the problem is with the way Spain are playing. They play a narrow midfield which means the width has to be provided by the fullbacks. When fullbacks go forward to support the attack I don't think you can really expect them to rush back to defend in time. The midfield has to be responsible to cover for them. I think it's one of the reasons why Ramos is now being told not to go forward so much with Capdevilla given the license to support the attack instead.

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post Jun 23 2008, 10:58 AM

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QUOTE(madmoz @ Jun 23 2008, 10:49 AM)
I bet you it will be another restrained performance from him against the Russians. Gus Hiddink is too shrewd a manager to be suckered twice - he'll put someone on Xavi and have his players attack the fullbacks. If anything, Xavi's a tad too slow IMHO, same problem as Alonso has in the BPL. At least with Liverpool, we used to think that this is due to Gerrard, Kuyt and Babel not being smart enough to make the runs and 'create' the space for Alonso, but Xavi struggles even with Villa, Torres and Silva making those darting runs in front of him and having Senna as a minder to protect him sad.gif Time to let Fabregas and Alonso have a chance to prove themselves perhaps? Xavi and Ienesta aren't exactly on fire are they?
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Yeah it will be. Especially with Arshavin available now. He has to be doubled up. The problem with Xavi and Iniesta is that they are so used to the slow possession game and they have had poor seasons for Barca as well. It's one of the reasons why I wanted Guti to be included in the squad as his eye for a pass is second to none. That said I think Fabregas should start the next game. I don't think Senna will be sacrificed as he has been playing very well.
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post Jun 23 2008, 03:18 PM

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With all due respect a midfield trio of Xavi-Senna-Iniesta is doomed to fail. It hasn't worked for Barca and there is no reason it would work for Spain as well. For a midfield 3 to work you need a dynamic player who can play from box to box. The only midfielder capable of doing that for Spain is Fabregas. And you can't say Villa and Torres didn't do their jobs. Xavi just didn't release the ball quick enough to exploit their pace. It's difficult to play the tiki-taka style when you have forwards that are more suited to the direct system. So who do you sacrifice? Villa/Torres or Xavi. It's an easy choice in my book.
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post Jun 30 2008, 03:33 AM

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Woo! What a first half! biggrin.gif
Since the semifinal all the players have really stepped up and performed even beyond my expectations. rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(red_brick_zero @ Jun 30 2008, 03:35 AM)
mertesacker iz quite good. silva dissapoint me though. lacks composure in this match.
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Silva has been quiet but he's done his role defensively so you can't really fault him. It's a team effort after all.

QUOTE(Jason_T @ Jun 30 2008, 03:35 AM)
Commentary:
"That must be an unusual but memorable yellow card for casillas.."
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The ref was retarded. Casillas is captain and he just tried to pull Puyol away.
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QUOTE(red_brick_zero @ Jun 30 2008, 03:38 AM)
didnt pay attention to him while defending tongue.gif
but he waste the ball 2 times in the penalty box. it's easy to see mistakes tongue.gif
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I think in the attacking third a little bit more lee way should be given. You can't expect players to get it right most of the time or football scores would be like rugby scores laugh.gif
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QUOTE(MX510 @ Jun 30 2008, 03:42 AM)
Hehehe i still favour for Germany
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Then you're in the wrong thread tongue.gif
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post Jun 30 2008, 04:37 AM

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ESPANA! ESPANA!
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Fantastic game from the boys. 2nd half must have been extremely frustrating for the Germans laugh.gif
Possession football ftw!

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