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post Oct 11 2007, 01:06 AM

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hmm wonder how darkscythe new toy will be against this

since vrzone winner currently on stock is the maximus..
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post Oct 12 2007, 11:17 AM

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QUOTE(ahpaul82 @ Oct 11 2007, 09:40 PM)
I challenge your Everest Memory Read bandwidth and Memory Latency !
800MHz, 4-4-4-12, 1T~
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wei dude that result kindda low

i used to get 11k+ nearl 12 actually on my team xtream PC2-6400 CL3's 1T 3-3-3-8
looking at ure rams .. i would say it wont pass superpi 32m.


any 680 mobo can beat that

hey coolice noticed something

ure everest scores against the 680 is lower
but the sandra scores is on par or higher

suspect is because of the proc latency scores..
as u know the nforce mobo's are very bad at the proc cache latency scores which is y they always lose to the intel counterparts on proc benching

interesting...

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post Oct 12 2007, 03:12 PM

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QUOTE(ahpaul82 @ Oct 12 2007, 12:39 PM)
im using NF650i board, not NF680i.

and don't compare old Everest with new Everest memory bandwidth,
coz old Everest alwaz can get higher score than the new Everest.
Do you know that ?

my main concern is the Memory bandwidth, not the SuperPI time.

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err ure using a beta version and want to compare???
and yes i knew and i have a version 4.0 Everest Ultimate Retail Ori...

where did i say anything about u using a 680 mobo.
do even know y ure 650 mobo everest bandwidth is higher than an intel chipset???

prove it in sandra bandwidth
WHY??.. Sandra vs Everest
Everest bandwidth is not real world bandwidth as it doesn't account for cache latency of the proc
hence separate scores.Real world bandwidth would be closer to the buffered/unbuffered sandra scores
Try it with similar specs and then try some gaming benchmark.Sandra scores also will show fsb/straps/vdimm weakness and actual performance in gaming so till then everest mem benchies is pretty useless as it doesnt even take account of the efficiency's of your mem controllers.

Did u know that??

Superpi
Superpi intel chipsets vs nvidia nforce chipsets... intel chipsets have better scores again.. the latency of the cache mems.... gee ever wondered y ure intel chipset buddies has a faster windows loading times??try this go to sandra.. try the mem latency test... that is going to be a shocking result for u especially at stock..

What coolice is doing is the correct way to compare chipsets.


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post Oct 12 2007, 04:44 PM

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QUOTE(coolice @ Oct 12 2007, 04:21 PM)
@ahpaul82
bench again and this is my highest sad.gif i need more vMCH cry.gif
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@cstkl1
ya..i did notice tat sandra and everest bandwidth differ alot this time which i never know b4,i tot it is just different calculation
btw..i got confuse,is there 2 latency?memory latency and cache latency?and the one shown in everest in wat latency
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everest shows mem latency
sandra shows proc cache latency plus mem latency or something like that... or some mem controller latency
generally its like showing the true output rather individual components... i also very vague about this.

but as far as i know real world performance is shown in sandra...
i myself trying to figure out the mystery of strap/fsb/mem timings/chipsets.. need more date and more mature bios.

hmm i think if u saw the mem latency for the nforce mobo for sandra as stock u pengsan.. kekek damn bad..
i think last time i did ask this question and somebody here explain to me y
and then i googled a found a bit of an answer to this...

thats y i always thought this was the reason the nforce mobo always loses out on cpu benching vs intel chipsets.
the mem controllers. latency etc.

generally i think nforce mobos work best on amd procs.
the 650/680 mobos were a hybrid variation or so called upgrades of the 590's
not a really true new architecture like the x38 compared to the 975

heard that the 7series is also an upgrade revision of the 680's which i am not suprised that it will be coming out for amd phenom procs first.

wei bro if u paired that mobo with that sandra score with a gts/gtx/ultra
ure going to break the aquamark 220 mark.. very sure..kekeke

try it...as long u have an overclockable graphic card ( PS inrease the mem speed on the card for more fps overall first.. find the max and then find a corresponding max core/shader at that mem speed)

gila score leh 9.8k

hmm i took out my 680 mobo already and the other is in my gf house
if not would have shown u stock performance

if ahpaul82 dont mind
dude show ure sandra mem latency score at stock performance and also everest...

also coolice the performance of latency will improve with lower latency on mem especially when run at in sync with fsb

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post Oct 17 2007, 01:47 AM

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hmm decided to start my own thread on the maximus

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post Oct 20 2007, 02:04 AM

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really nice proc u have there.

bid 1.5k for it??
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since the vcore so low how come dont want to run higher mhz??

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post Oct 20 2007, 11:10 AM

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QUOTE(coolice @ Oct 20 2007, 02:35 AM)
this proc will not for sell unless i found replacement tongue.gif
erm..the reason is after 4ghz,it doesnt scale well with vcore,last time when i did my p35-ds3p testing,i find the highest 3d06 benchable clock speed is 4.14ghz @ 1.57~1.59vcore..hehe
secondly was i worry tat xigmatek cannot handle the heat later sweat.gif
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i see
good proc though..

hmm i am having probs with the maximus
it wont let me go pass 4ghz no matter what

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post Oct 20 2007, 11:51 AM

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eh if condensation is happening at 1.6v again

cannot go above 4ghz.

dude u know my benches
i will only do stable benches
my 4ghz at 1.6 already stable like gila
3dmark/orthos/superpi all pass with flying colours
i need to up the voltages somemore since the coolit like getting condensation on idle... which is not good.

dewar??somebody here has a liquid nitrogen flask??

extremeocer..

last warning if not going to be flaming u like mad

dont promote ure sales thing here
post relevent posting on x38 and not cooling
this is not a cooling section

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post Oct 20 2007, 12:14 PM

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QUOTE(extremeocer @ Oct 20 2007, 12:04 PM)
Promoting my sales???.....i am just stating the facts here bro. You say you cant go beyond 4ghz...and i am telling you why. Its that simple. You want to flame me....go ahead. You want to report me...go ahead. But before you take any actions....just a gentle reminder that everybody know what kind of attitude you have bro. Isn't OC related to cooling? Sometimes i really wonder on your OC skills.

Just accept the fact that cooling is limiting your OC....not the mobo or CPU, at least for now. I shall stop here....since this is not my thread.
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wow....
what an insight when u have no clue what my temps are like
wow....
pro ocer here ppl rclxms.gif
again this thread and the other is suppose to be a x38 thread.
go to xtremesystems forum and tell the same thing at all the x38 thread. y dont u?? helping malaysians is it??

and sorry i aint a rat like you who complain to mod everytime infact u did it already just a few days. In fact i dont see the point of complaining when i can hold my own on facts.

everybody here is testing the limits of x38 on air/water. if u want to start a extreme cooling thread on x38 by all means. or get a x38 and produce some results here.. till then all talk and no show makes u look really stupid

sorry my attitude is simple.
talk relevant things simple....not kopitiam style with loads of excuse.

infact y not post all ure scores.. since i cant even find them
and show that thell all can pass superpi32m/ ecerest cpu test/3dmark06/3dmark05/aquamark
also some sandra scores.
dont be so shy. show ure not all talk.. and no show.

anyways this is definitely my last reply to u..
i SERIOusly doubt ure OC skills with no post.


Added on October 20, 2007, 12:16 pmcoolice
did u see rhlc posting on ddr2 thread
hmm 500fsb q6600
nice stuff.


Added on October 20, 2007, 12:34 pmcoolice
i counter checked ure 3dmarkcpu scores
its missing by a 100 points.
check ure rams and vcore again.

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post Oct 20 2007, 03:45 PM

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QUOTE(coolice @ Oct 20 2007, 01:02 PM)
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try 3d05 this morning,current highest is this
sory,forgot to open cpuz for cpu tab,proc was running at 4ghz anyway
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yup using the same 500x8 1000 cl4

see your sandra scores for 500x8.
feeling this is difference in mobo.

2900xt not sure for aquamark.. heck i couldnt get it to work last time.

nice scores for 3dmark 2005

hmmm whats the cpu score for aquamark??

its ure proc.. for 4ghz 500x8.. ure sandra at 1000 cl4 post please
see whether it can hit 9000 consistently
cause your 3dmark06 cpu score should be around 3614 thats what i got for 4ghz...

currently my mobo is confusing me...
3.6ghz only need 1.38v

so wth is going on with going above 4
oh yeah hmm tested the limits
520fsb stable for benching only but failed orthos
500fsb stable...

envy ure proc...tongue.gif
geee darksycthe x6800 also rare can do 530..keke on air/water

did suprfly tell u or not on the new 505 bios... no vdroop at all
and bios set vcore and reported on probe only 0.02v difference
the loading calibration now working

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post Oct 21 2007, 01:57 AM

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dude post yours highest sandra superpi32m pass..

just curious if u dont mind.

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post Oct 21 2007, 01:27 PM

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QUOTE(coolice @ Oct 21 2007, 02:29 AM)
which one?9.9k?tat is suicide run tongue.gif
stable run is 9.5k biggrin.gif
btw,can u try 29xt  aq3 for me also?it seem 29xt not well in benching aq3 rclxub.gif
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i did before last time

its slower than my gts
at that time i thought the directppl driver problem
as it crashed ramdomly
but there was one guy who did some 2xx aquamark scores in xs i think

dude lets do some 515x7 comparison run your rams at insync

3dmark01/3dmark05/3dmark06/sp1m/sp32m/sandra/aquamark( just post.. interest in the cpu scores actually)


then can see maximus vs dq6.. which one is a winner

results a bit inconclusive at the moment

also ure gigabyte seems to have a better optimized bios for rams and OC
so just wanna see the results
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post Oct 22 2007, 05:33 PM

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no wonder u asked me jsut now.. u already did it..

give me a few hours..
didnt have time yesterday

doing something again at 4ghz.
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post Oct 24 2007, 12:27 AM

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wei dude y u didnt do 515x7
anyways posting the results in a few minutes

lets put here
Aquamark
coolice
2900 xt - 193295
cstkl1
8800gts - 208143

Sandra
coolice
X38 DQ6 - 9013 - 1030mhz 4-4-4-4
cstkl1
Asus Maximus SE - 8975 - 1030mhz 4-4-4-8


3dmark 06
coolice
2900 pro - 12693
2900 xt -12774
cstkl1
8800gts - 12700

3dmark05
coolice
2900 pro - 22486
2900 xt - 22482
cstkl1
8800gts - 21468

3dmark01
coolice
2900 pro - 63923
2900 xt - 64631
cstkl1
8800gts - 66710

will post the rest on this thread tommorow sleppy
sp1m/32m

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QUOTE(coolice @ Oct 24 2007, 12:58 AM)
owh..i tot u want to compare 3.6ghz clock speed,515x7 is over so i use 514x7 biggrin.gif
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nah its ok
just repost the super pi 1m
32m nevermind

the rest is minimal on 7mhz difference.
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post Oct 24 2007, 12:25 PM

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yeah i had to rma my ocz's titanium alpha vx2..kekeke

luckily one pair of team's just came back from rma today..

thats y i didnt post
the ram like failed memtest and was giving a bit inconsistent scores.

this time going to be carefull with the teams
should be getting some ocz's 9200 reapers in the new few weeks.

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post Oct 26 2007, 02:05 AM

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QUOTE(coolice @ Oct 26 2007, 02:00 AM)
bro..i post the result on sun or mon..got back to hometown until sun for sth
btw..deciding whether want to let go this e6850 or not tongue.gif
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no hurry
me also now not sure what ram to use

but this is going to be my 24/7 setup
520x7 at 1.376v

seems to be perfect
an windows load fast
games also damn fast
..keke

tried difference at 475x8 at 1.42 but hmm the rams are not running as fast

with the team ram at 3640 can score around 9.2k which is fast enough for me

hmm team cl3's d9gmh really handpicked yo...

the subtimings on auto already so tight.
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post Oct 26 2007, 02:17 AM

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QUOTE(coolice @ Oct 26 2007, 02:00 AM)
bro..i post the result on sun or mon..got back to hometown until sun for sth
btw..deciding whether want to let go this e6850 or not tongue.gif
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well if u want to downgrade

u know who to look for

will trade with mine +RM500 well still negotiable..

so atleast u get some dough and not bad proc.. not as good as ures but can do 520..

hmm need it for my rig.. cause i really want to run 4ghz 24/7

anyways u have until end of this month to decide
cause if the yorkfields scale as well as they have reported on air then sorry lor..


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QUOTE(coolice @ Oct 26 2007, 09:40 AM)
hehe..the sales is up..but don accept trade in..paiseh sweat.gif
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its ok already got buyer for my proc. but at a way lower price since i want ures like asap.


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