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TSBoy96
post Dec 23 2022, 04:14 AM, updated 3y ago

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Sorry /k/ I cannot sleep now, suddenly pop in my head mau kira2 dividen from ASB vs TH


Assuming one has RM100k to put in either one for low risk investment, and no topups each month for one complete year (to make calculation easier).



For Tabung Haji, based on 2021 dividen of 3.1%

Rm100k x 3.1%
= RM3100

Total = RM 103,100


For ASB 2022, based on the recently announced dividen of 4.6% + 0.5%(first 30k units)

RM30k x 5.1%
= RM1530

Rm70k x 4.6%
= RM3220

RM1530+RM3220 = RM4750

Total = RM104750

After 2.5% zakat deduction

Grand Total = RM102131.25

For ASB 2021, much more straight forward 5%

RM30k x 5%
Total= RM 105000

Deduct zakat 2.5$
Grand Total = RM 102,375

The difference between ASB and Tabung Haji is RM968.75(2022) or RM725 (2021). Again, For 2022 Tabung Haji Dividen, will only know by March 2023 so by that time gonna calculate again hence why using last year data.


So is my calculation correct, that it is better to save in TH rather than ASB?

This post has been edited by Boy96: Dec 23 2022, 07:27 AM
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post Dec 23 2022, 05:15 AM

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Based on my newbie experiences, it's good if you have the money (e.g 100k saving). Else, ASB financing is better.
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post Dec 23 2022, 05:54 AM

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post Dec 23 2022, 05:56 AM

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post Dec 23 2022, 06:45 AM

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my 2 cents, ASB is better if you're paying income tax as you can get tax rebate for zakat.
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post Dec 23 2022, 06:53 AM

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post Dec 23 2022, 07:01 AM

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QUOTE(JoeK @ Dec 23 2022, 06:53 AM)
Top up a bit and do business open chatime kiosk
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post Dec 23 2022, 07:08 AM

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It's basic maths isn't it
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post Dec 23 2022, 07:08 AM

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QUOTE(@rleng @ Dec 23 2022, 06:45 AM)
my 2 cents, ASB is better if you're paying income tax as you can get tax rebate for zakat.
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My current income not eligible to pay income tax. So for me better to move my money to TH?
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post Dec 23 2022, 07:12 AM

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QUOTE(Boy96 @ Dec 23 2022, 07:08 AM)
My current income not eligible to pay income tax. So for me better to move my money to TH?
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What? But u have 100k in asb.. why not eligible?
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post Dec 23 2022, 07:13 AM

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QUOTE(aziratul @ Dec 23 2022, 07:12 AM)
What? But u have 100k in asb.. why not eligible?
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I said "assume" only for easier calculation.
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post Dec 23 2022, 07:24 AM

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1 year net gain is 0.5% ish percentum



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post Dec 23 2022, 07:28 AM

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QUOTE(JoeK @ Dec 23 2022, 06:53 AM)
Top up a bit and do business open chatime kiosk
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If topup banyak do business open ev charging station ok tak, modal lagi tinggi dari petrol stesen?
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post Dec 23 2022, 07:31 AM

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QUOTE(Boy96 @ Dec 23 2022, 08:28 AM)
If topup banyak do business open ev charging station ok tak, modal lagi tinggi dari petrol stesen?
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Pergh

How muchie?
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post Dec 23 2022, 07:31 AM

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Now imagine the compounded money inside for someone who have invested 250K for 30 years... wow!!!
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post Dec 23 2022, 07:37 AM

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if belum sampai haul, asb.
if sudah sampai haul, tapi rajin urus zakat sendiri, asb. (tax payer can claim pcb 100% from zakat)
if malas let th settle all. simpan at th.

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post Dec 23 2022, 07:57 AM

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QUOTE(Boy96 @ Dec 23 2022, 07:28 AM)
If topup banyak do business open ev charging station ok tak, modal lagi tinggi dari petrol stesen?
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Open EV charging need berapa modal?

You got lobang can share?
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post Dec 23 2022, 08:02 AM

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You got 100k, you care about 3k chicken feet?
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post Dec 23 2022, 08:03 AM

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QUOTE(JoeK @ Dec 23 2022, 07:57 AM)
Open EV charging need berapa modal?

You got lobang can share?
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Eh i am the one asking la need berapa and jf u all ada lobang x
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post Dec 23 2022, 08:11 AM

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QUOTE(Boy96 @ Dec 23 2022, 08:03 AM)
Eh i am the one asking la need berapa and jf u all ada lobang x
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Aiyaa, i tot you ade lobang

I manade lobang sad.gif i batang

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post Dec 23 2022, 08:11 AM

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QUOTE(aziratul @ Dec 23 2022, 07:12 AM)
What? But u have 100k in asb.. why not eligible?
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Don't ask lah. Hahaha.
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QUOTE(Sycamore @ Dec 23 2022, 08:11 AM)
Don't ask lah. Hahaha.
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dia cakap kalau dia ada 100k

mungkin buat pinjaman kut ntah la aku tak reti bab ni
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post Dec 23 2022, 03:22 PM

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nahhh, forex with 1:500 leverage is better. /s

serious answer, try to diversify, dont put one all your egg in one basket.
myself, asb-70% (not going to increase anymore)
tabung haji-15%
gold-15% (targeting for more)
1 house-90% paid (1 pcs enuff la for now)

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post Dec 23 2022, 04:19 PM

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QUOTE(Boy96 @ Dec 23 2022, 07:28 AM)
If topup banyak do business open ev charging station ok tak, modal lagi tinggi dari petrol stesen?
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How much are the chargers and infra needed?

Also if the land is tanah pertanian must take into account the conversion cost.

Petrol station currently per litre is 15sen for petrol and 10sen for diesel (average) How much margin for EV charging?
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post Jan 24 2023, 10:37 PM

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QUOTE(JoeK @ Dec 23 2022, 07:57 AM)
Open EV charging need berapa modal?

You got lobang can share?
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QUOTE(R231_SL65_AMG @ Dec 23 2022, 04:19 PM)
How much are the chargers and infra needed?

Also if the land is tanah pertanian must take into account the conversion cost.

Petrol station currently per litre is 15sen for petrol and 10sen for diesel (average) How much margin for EV charging?
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post Jan 24 2023, 11:02 PM

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post Jan 25 2023, 12:49 AM

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but tabong h@ji got issue right? something to do with the law where if the yearly fiscal is on negative,cannot declare dividend but they went and did it anyway?


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post Jan 25 2023, 12:51 AM

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QUOTE(Boy96 @ Dec 23 2022, 08:03 AM)
Eh i am the one asking la need berapa and jf u all ada lobang x
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Gentari, electron etc.

Modal of course lower than petrol station. But the high cost is the piece of land and construction. But set up ev charging bay is easier than oils cause oil need dig dig for tanker.
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post Jan 25 2023, 01:05 AM

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If you follow the camel rider way of calculating Zakat, you will never make much of a profit because the 2.5% is not cut from the dividend amount but from the principal and the dividend. So essentially it's compounded every year. So camel rider wannabes will never make more than 1-2% if they calculate it properly and not the half-assed way of just cutting it straight from dividend % which is wrong. TH is following the latter method by cutting it straight from the dividends and by some cooking the books to make their profit higher than it actually is. It's why LGE had to step in and save TH because all this while they were running into a deficit on their reserves which were in the negative to the tune of billions and yet somehow they were paying dividends from out of thin air. whistling.gif
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post Jan 25 2023, 01:37 AM

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QUOTE(ShinG3e @ Jan 25 2023, 12:51 AM)
Gentari, electron etc.

Modal of course lower than petrol station. But the high cost is the piece of land and construction. But set up ev charging bay is easier than oils cause oil need dig dig for tanker.
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That one is for DCFC, see the post above they supply AC chargers just need your own parking lot. Should be much cheaper
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QUOTE(shadowglow @ Jan 25 2023, 12:49 AM)
but tabong h@ji got issue right? something to do with the law where if the yearly fiscal is on negative,cannot declare dividend but they went and did it anyway?
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kinda what im thinking.


all else being equal or relatively equal, better avoid Tabung Haji because of risk from the institution itself.
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post Jan 25 2023, 05:58 AM

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QUOTE(red streak @ Jan 25 2023, 01:05 AM)
If you follow the camel rider way of calculating Zakat, you will never make much of a profit because the 2.5% is not cut from the dividend amount but from the principal and the dividend. So essentially it's compounded every year. So camel rider wannabes will never make more than 1-2% if they calculate it properly and not the half-assed way of just cutting it straight from dividend % which is wrong. TH is following the latter method by cutting it straight from the dividends and by some cooking the books to make their profit higher than it actually is. It's why LGE had to step in and save TH because all this while they were running into a deficit on their reserves which were in the negative to the tune of billions and yet somehow they were paying dividends from out of thin air.  whistling.gif
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Are their books not audited too ?
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perhaps different priorities
if investment, go asb
if want to go hajj or help gov in assisting people go hajj, use tabung haji
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post Jan 25 2023, 09:28 AM

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do you need to access the money quickly?
if not, and want more return, buy co-op bank persatuan shares
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post Jan 25 2023, 09:30 AM

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QUOTE(Boy96 @ Jan 25 2023, 01:37 AM)
That one is for DCFC, see the post above they supply AC chargers just need your own parking lot. Should be much cheaper
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AC charging yes much much cheaper. But DCFC makes the most profit cause majority EV drivers now prefers quick & power charge. 150+ kwh. PHEV opts for AC due to limitation.

But ayam interested. Got lubang PM. brows.gif
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QUOTE(red streak @ Jan 25 2023, 01:05 AM)
If you follow the camel rider way of calculating Zakat, you will never make much of a profit because the 2.5% is not cut from the dividend amount but from the principal and the dividend. So essentially it's compounded every year. So camel rider wannabes will never make more than 1-2% if they calculate it properly and not the half-assed way of just cutting it straight from dividend % which is wrong. TH is following the latter method by cutting it straight from the dividends and by some cooking the books to make their profit higher than it actually is. It's why LGE had to step in and save TH because all this while they were running into a deficit on their reserves which were in the negative to the tune of billions and yet somehow they were paying dividends from out of thin air.  whistling.gif
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Kan ni nah boleh land, deficit pun ada dividen, best investment.
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I've pondered about this too TS. For me TH is for Hajj, I don't expect much from the investment.

For ASB, I only maintain the amount where the zakat payment can be refunded via tax refund. So it will be depending on the PCB each month.

Currently I put most in AHB. Profit around 5% yearly WITH zakat already paid.
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post Jan 25 2023, 09:37 AM

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QUOTE(nyemah_mulya @ Jan 25 2023, 09:31 AM)
I've pondered about this too TS. For me TH is for Hajj, I don't expect much from the investment.

For ASB, I only maintain the amount where the zakat payment can be refunded via tax refund. So it will be depending on the PCB each month.

Currently I put most in AHB. Profit around 5% yearly WITH zakat already paid.
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Where do I sign up for AHB?

It’s quite limited to sign up this
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QUOTE(xpole @ Jan 25 2023, 09:37 AM)
Where do I sign up for AHB?

It’s quite limited to sign up this
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You can go to any Maybank branch. It takes a long time to open account, almost 20 mins. Sometimes the officer don't want to entertain and say fund is full. Just insist, coz now the fund is still plenty.
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post Jan 25 2023, 12:46 PM

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QUOTE(ShinG3e @ Jan 25 2023, 09:30 AM)
AC charging yes much much cheaper. But DCFC makes the most profit cause majority EV drivers now prefers quick & power charge. 150+ kwh. PHEV opts for AC due to limitation.

But ayam interested. Got lubang PM.  brows.gif
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Join this group, they are finding investors to join installing CEE chargepoints
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post Nov 7 2023, 01:17 AM

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Based on financial faiz, using the recent rates. Put in TH better than ASB and FD

But i saw in comments section got another investment Amanah Harta Bumiputera.

Dividen 2.5% every 6 month already deduct zakat

https://www.astroawani.com/berita-malaysia/...miputera-442211

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