How is it a resort?
Tanah runtuh bukan bermula di Father’s Organic Far
Tanah runtuh bukan bermula di Father’s Organic Far
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Dec 22 2022, 06:54 PM
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How is it a resort?
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Dec 22 2022, 07:18 PM
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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ Dec 22 2022, 06:58 PM) he got another development plan approved for resort on another plot of land Isn’t that another matter. Unrelated to the camp grounds, right?look like he also aware that he threading a thin line and in fact running a resort business Not defending but aren’t the requirements different? |
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Dec 22 2022, 07:20 PM
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QUOTE(YamiBear @ Dec 22 2022, 07:05 PM) Well I purposely hinting chinaman mentality tho admittedly I'm a racist. I read enough chinese manhwa to know Father's organic farmland has young master attitude, always depicted as villains in the story. In a more serious note, I probably think they think from different angle or just don't know some engineering stuffs and we're just looking on different angle. AAs much as people hate the government, when shit hit the fans, people crying for government just proves that people need government. Malaysians have raised a bunch of crybabies and tongkat species that think they are special and independent. They want freedom and independence but none of the accountability. |
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Dec 22 2022, 08:11 PM
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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ Dec 22 2022, 07:30 PM) You cannot make generalisations like that. His accountability is yet to be determined, if any. Buffalo Soldier liked this post
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Dec 22 2022, 08:17 PM
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Dec 22 2022, 08:18 PM
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Are you a relative of the victims? Do you need a pound of flesh from somebody?
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Dec 22 2022, 08:23 PM
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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ Dec 22 2022, 08:19 PM) so gov's accountability isn't TDB lo? Never said anything about govt. who do you think will determining what happened and accountability? The govt. that is obvious. quite clearly here you just want to point at gov there is basic responsibility for your patron's safety when you host people on your premise, particularly they are paying for it . Now that you have brought govt into the talk, they might have some responsibility as well or duty to improve on how land use rules are changed and enforced. That is also TBD. |
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Dec 22 2022, 08:26 PM
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Dec 22 2022, 08:28 PM
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Dec 22 2022, 08:30 PM
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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ Dec 22 2022, 08:28 PM) Sao pei la,Why you want to continue to argue over nothing when you failed to read and understand. You don’t lose face if you own up and say you didn’t read and understand properly, you know? |
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Dec 22 2022, 08:34 PM
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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ Dec 22 2022, 08:29 PM) the state didn't say don't need license, it say don't have license for this type of setup So if no licence for this type of setup, what is the default state? No need licence la.look who failed comprehension here You want to make him apply for a hotel or guesthouse licence? Ridiculous. |
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Dec 22 2022, 08:36 PM
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Dec 22 2022, 08:39 PM
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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ Dec 22 2022, 08:35 PM) whorehouse also don't have license for its setup SMH, camping grounds are a relatively new thing here. Local authorities haven’t woken up to how to licence this yet or what guidelines to set and enforce. Isn’t that why state said no licence for this kind of setup?so? you gotta be kidding me lol BTW, he is charging accommodation on per pax, and having similar check in check out rule like hotel / inn you say don't need license ayam just can laugh |
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Dec 22 2022, 08:42 PM
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You need to have a wank and sleep it off.
Screaming for your pound of flesh when recovery ops haven’t been completed is a bit premature. But, if You want apportion blame, be my guest. |
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Dec 22 2022, 08:44 PM
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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ Dec 22 2022, 08:40 PM) "inn" means any hotel, boarding-house or other place where any person is harboured or lodged for any kind whatsoever of hire or reward and where any domestic service whatsoever is rendered by the owner, lessee, principal tenant, occupier or manager to the person so harboured or lodged, licensed under any written law for the time being in force in Peninsular Malaysia; It is a camp ground not an inn, as there are no rules governing that, the landowner can make it up as they see fit. inn keeper act 1952 very old act i mind you Local authorities didn’t see fit to investigate or enquire. Campers satisfied with the arrangement, there is compulsion on anyone to come stay. What is unfortunate is that the location made it vulnerable to a landslide. |
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Dec 22 2022, 08:48 PM
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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ Dec 22 2022, 08:46 PM) There is no building. Campers bring their own tents.If anything, you should be looking at laws governing parking lots for vehicles. To keep musing is pointless, you have already determined that the landowner is to blame. You should be satisfied in your own mind then. This post has been edited by dickybird: Dec 22 2022, 08:49 PM |
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Dec 22 2022, 08:53 PM
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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ Dec 22 2022, 08:44 PM) need you expert english reading skill here What domestic service is rendered to the campers? So it is by definition not even an inn since there is no actual building even."inn" means any hotel, boarding-house or other place where any person is harboured or lodged for any kind whatsoever of hire or reward and where any domestic service whatsoever is rendered by the owner, lessee, principal tenant, occupier or manager to the person so harboured or lodged, licensed under any written law for the time being in force in Peninsular Malaysia; what does it mean? did father's organic farm fit this? Sao pei la This post has been edited by dickybird: Dec 22 2022, 08:53 PM |
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Dec 22 2022, 09:18 PM
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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ Dec 22 2022, 09:08 PM) who is lying here? who say no need license? Sao pei laSHAH ALAM: Some of the estimated 61 campsites under the Hulu Selangor municipality are unlicensed, with a part of them even encroaching on government land, the state government revealed. State local government committee chairman Ng Sze Han said the Hulu Selangor Municipal Council (MPHS) had carried out a census in 2018 on campsites under its jurisdiction but this needed updating to ensure that operators conducted their activities safely. “Some of these campsite operators were found to have encroached on government land,” he told a press conference yesterday. Ng added that the MPHS had met with resort and campsite operators to ensure the activities they carried out were safe. He also announced that the Selangor government was in the process of formulating guidelines for campsites in the state. “We need to learn from the (Batang Kali) tragedy and regulate all camping or glamping activities,” he said, adding that they were now conducting out a survey on all types of campsites as these were not clearly specified under the business licence category. He acknowledged that local councils did not have specific regulations for campsite activities, saying these were “sub-activities” run by hotel and resort owners. “Camping and kayaking are considered sub-activities, so the operators need to apply for a business licence. The census will determine if existing sites are ecologically sensitive or risky areas,” said Ng. Once the census is completed, he said a workshop would be held with relevant stakeholders to draft the guidelines. “Campsites are always in inconspicuous areas near rivers or forests, and this is not made aware of by the local councils,” he said, adding that the state government would work with the Selangor Forestry Department on developing the guidelines. |
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Dec 23 2022, 12:28 PM
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QUOTE(differ @ Dec 23 2022, 02:02 AM) It's a loophole that has been closed in many other countries. we are not a well educated or as progressive a country as we would like.Some US state laws have extended it to say "Inn and camp grounds". Some blanket use the word "accommodation". Just that our law hasn't been updated since inception. but we will get there |
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