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 Tanah runtuh bukan bermula di Father’s Organic Far

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brkli
post Dec 20 2022, 05:32 PM

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yes no business license, coz really, not intend to do a "accommodation" business on piece of farm land..

next time, factory operator also let people short stay in the factory la. when shit happens, say not that they dun want apply for permit or license, but no such license available.. whistling.gif

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post Dec 20 2022, 05:38 PM

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QUOTE(Taikor.Taikun @ Dec 20 2022, 05:36 PM)
His point is??? It’s gomen’s fault for not giving him license?
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his point is, he illegally use the piece of land from what it is intended for. but it is govt fault for not having such license.
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post Dec 20 2022, 05:54 PM

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QUOTE(Ayambetul @ Dec 20 2022, 05:40 PM)
Tanah private - checked

Boleh buat camp - checked

Boleh untung - checked

Ok let's start the business
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so, whats the land type? commercial? residential? industrial? or agriculture?
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post Dec 20 2022, 10:04 PM

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QUOTE(pakmulau @ Dec 20 2022, 09:15 PM)
i dont know what the permit involves with this type of business

but sure have to register somewhere either tourism or something

you collect money then sure it will involves OSH for all your clients or guess and your workers

maybe i'm wrong here
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Father's Organic Farm. register as a Farm/Pertanian la. apa lagi.
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post Dec 20 2022, 10:27 PM

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QUOTE(pakmulau @ Dec 20 2022, 10:19 PM)
i mean that camping site lah

you got clients so sure it involves OSH elements
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is it not part of/within the "farm"??

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post Dec 20 2022, 11:26 PM

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QUOTE(Femsroot @ Dec 20 2022, 11:21 PM)
confused.gif There are a lot things no license but u do aso.

Can we go picnic at roadside? Next to waterfall? By seasides?

I don’t side the owner. When they do bushes they shud have proper safety precautions n licensing. But in this case we can blame him no license but not for the blood shed.
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what kind question are you asking? you referring to the BUSINESS owner? or the "tourist"/camper.? If you do BUSINESS, u need to comply to regulation. else, u just open it no charge anything, or make an income from it (not business) then no one will say anything.
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post Dec 21 2022, 12:50 PM

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QUOTE(ReoAyanami @ Dec 21 2022, 12:29 PM)
Register the business for what exactly?

Also, going back to the restaurant example, does the restaurant have to be registered for every activity that the property is rented out for?
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it will be back to the question. is this like a random one of thing. or it is a consistent stream of income. if you really open a restaurant, or a studio? each business and premises will surely have their guideline, if conflicting, surely can't happen right.. i.e if the shooting will interrupt with the kitchen, food, raw material storage etc. e.g u shooting a scene involve some animal like live rats, insects and etc in the kitchen, you think will allowed "easily". Of course, you can close one eye, but utltimately that is not ethical, and ofcourse if found out, might be fine too.

similarly, for doing tourism, accommodation and etc, they also have the guideline.. if they hit all the requirements, why can't they get a permit? requirement are there for a reason. the "no such permit" is more like you want to do it that way (doing accommodation without its requirement), no such permit..
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post Dec 21 2022, 01:15 PM

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QUOTE(ReoAyanami @ Dec 21 2022, 12:59 PM)
Is the farm providing accommodation or is the farm renting out its properties where the renters use it as an accommodation?
Sure, live animals in a kitchen is breaking some laws regarding restaurant safety but does people camping in a farm break any laws regarding farm safety? Don't farmers also sometimes camp out in farms?
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should a farm, house 100+ people overnight? most for accommodation type business there are some guidelines needed. for example, evacuation process/SOP and misc safety standards, max occupancy and etc. are all those met? farmer staying in the farm is not business, if they are worker and farm during the stay, u can say that they are protected via the worker contract, work safety hazards (socso stuff).. but as a non-employee. what protects the customer except their own ass. yes, this landslide is maybe not avoidable even with safety SOP like evac path and location in place. but business need to identify risk, like fire, flood etc, and have a proper mitigation for the customers and some of those are what the "requirement" for the permit.

also farmers do it, does mean it is safe.

so if a resturant worker eat leftover food which are contaminated (maybe they very poor). is it mean is right and met standard that a restaurant should operate?

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post Dec 21 2022, 11:35 PM

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QUOTE(koja6049 @ Dec 21 2022, 10:38 PM)
you also don't have license to breathe, eat and pangsai, so don't do them  biggrin.gif
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if you intend to do business on that, then yes, mostly likely can't.. just I not sure what kind of "business" would that be..
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post Dec 22 2022, 12:58 PM

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QUOTE(koja6049 @ Dec 22 2022, 11:49 AM)
you don't breathe eat and pangsai, you're just a dead man walking  biggrin.gif
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yup, everybody does it.. but duno who do business and earn income from on those.. maybe youtuber..

seem like you really dun understand the concept of operating business vs individual activities...

and yes. the customer no need permit to do camping there (as long as owner of the private area ok, then ok). but the business owner need a permit(accomodation license in general) to house customer for a period of time and earning from it.

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post Dec 22 2022, 01:26 PM

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QUOTE(koja6049 @ Dec 22 2022, 01:18 PM)
looks like you also need a license to house your wife, kids, parents, grandparents etc, or you just chase them out to the streets  biggrin.gif
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i dun intend to make my house into a business and my family as my customer. but you can do it if you like. since everything to you is a business it seem.

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post Dec 24 2022, 12:29 PM

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QUOTE(sidthesloth @ Dec 24 2022, 08:40 AM)
Ok, let's look at this objectively. I have have setup hotel at my house without lesen. Fire break out 2 blocks from my house, fire spread from 2 blocks to my house and kill all tenant.

Now you guys saying my hotel salah cause didn't apply lesen but ignore fire breakout from the origin due to them being negligence. Case close I kena.
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first, you need to understand the meaning of negligence here. negligence is not the case whereby you not about to prevent a natural disaster or calamity, but more to how to handle it, i.e what has been done before hand to handle and reduce the risk, which start from identifying the risk.

for case of fire, there are things like fire exit, evacuation route, fire extinguisher are the basics. if those also missing, IF the customer wants, they can bring the case. ofcourse, who win the case or not, depend on a lot factor. key here is negligence. not sue you for arson (starting the fire).

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