Let my son studying in private. Not financially stable but since gov school don't want my son I really got no choice.
Please advise on the pro and con on IGCSE study with additional language study and will he able to cope with career in Malaysia after graduate?

never heard of public school dont want to accept. By nature, they accept all. My nieces and nephew raised in aussie also came back to msia at 14 but they still accepted into Form 2.

Your son is malaysian? To answer, no issue with IGCSE in malaysia. As long as he has uni degree no one will look at high school dy

First question - why government school don't want to accept?

2nd question - Why additional language for IGCSE? You take IGCSE based on your uni planning. Take just appropriate subject ONLY. Nothing more. All my kids go through IGCSE. They took 6 subjects only, and all is in local uni now. One in electronic engineering and one in computer science.

Career wise, as long as it's a recognised degree, with reasonably good grade of course, one can have a good career.

This post has been edited by haturaya: Dec 19 2022, 04:00 PM

yeah, why wouldnt he be accepted?

He is a special child , registered under Oku but only very mild condition. Now his condition is normal already like any other general children.
Gov school I registered him twice on special class but no feedback. It was catered for maybe 97% malays and other race would be 3%. Meaning to say it's also no chance for nons to get in special class on gov school. The increasing of Oku children in Malaysia is really a worry because I can confirm that the nons are unwanted child.
I registered him in srjk after that but on 2nd year they discriminate nons Oku children too. I have no idea why the increase of other races students in Chinese school but it seemed really strange to me. Anyway all I know is Oku kids are increasing and it's very hard to get any place in gov special class.
My difficulties already past, what I worried now is his future, if he is able to go work like everyone else in Msia with This syllabus.

If his condition is normal, cannot join normal school?

Edited, same question being asked

This post has been edited by jojolicia: Dec 19 2022, 04:11 PM

Oredi done normal school by attending srjk ,kena stabbed by other children using pencil hantam to his head

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This post has been edited by D10yrspain: Dec 19 2022, 04:11 PM

Thank you for positive reply 🙏. I don't want expect to much, just hope he can find job like general people in Msia.

Edit:
Addional language study are Bahasa Melayu and Chinese. Both came together in additional language school, I can't opt for one so just let him study both

This post has been edited by D10yrspain: Dec 19 2022, 04:28 PM

Ooo no wonder. Not just non, my office mate (nice Malay lady) also cannot get a place for her standard 5 son. Had been trying to get into special school since kindy.


May the pathway as smooth as it can be.

Do plan ahead which area / subject to focus on, which uni to go, which domain to choose. It will be easier.

As for uni, on paper, any IPTA (local public uni) do accept IGCSE as their student. You use the term "SPM atau setara". The word setara means your kid IGCSE taken subject is equivalent with SPM subject. FYI, my 2 IGCSE kids is in public uni. Not private uni.

One more thing, university degree is NOT the only way to a good career path. Any skill based education also can lead to a good career path.

This post has been edited by haturaya: Dec 19 2022, 04:27 PM

Your Malay friend is the few that is unlucky one I suppose. So sorry to hear that .

Thank you so much on your addition info on the uni and skill based edu. I will check them out throughly.
Thank you thank you 🙏🙏🙏

May i know what are the 6 subjects?

This subject were taken by my kids

0510 English as Second Language
0580 Mathematics
0620 Chemistry
0610 Biology
0606 Additional Mathematics
0625 Physics

Before going for IGCSE, do check with uni foundation programme / equivalent first. What subject that they are looking into. It's all depending on which field of study you're pursuing. That 6 subject are good for pure science, engineering and computer science field only.

I see. Thanks

please check on mandatory subject requirement for Malay language and History. I dont have details but this may be something your child will need for future qualification cert or college entry...something like that. do check with the school you are sending.

It's not mandatory subject. Malay, Chinese or even Arab language are all additional optional subjects.
I just want him to learn Malay language since we are Malaysian.but it came in set of both Malay and Chinese languages, so he has to learn 2 types which I have no problem with that.

I'm just a normal citizen which I am happy if my son gets into working like all other regular people. I'm happy if he is smart to study higher but I don't want expect it because it's very difficult for general rakyat like us, financial we are not very capable. I just want him to be able to survife on his own that's the most important to us,

Don't want to go through again with another hell road having to discriminate by schools.

Just go straight to edu ministry office. Make appointment to meet with Minister/Deputy. Bring along all documents and talk directly to them. They will assist.

Kementerian Pendidikan Malaysia (KPM),
Blok E8, Kompleks E,
Pusat Pentadbiran Kerajaan Persekutuan,
62604 Putrajaya, Malaysia.

Your kids got into uni with igse o levels for the asasi or matrics?

My daughter did her gcse and took german language

She is now at Academy of Fine Arts Vienna under SBE german scholorship.

Initially she struggled. But Lucky During covid she start mixed with german native speaker neighbor 11 to 12 yo kids 24x7. She managed to obtainee an A.

My sugggestion dont push Your kid.

Try take german language

Going to german u Can get free tuition fees

Thank you for advise. Of course no pushing. Have you seen Oku parents pushing their kids in studies? What I came across from other Oku children punya parents all never want to stress their child.
The only people that pushing are teachers and school, all because their quota in exam scoring.

Not only my kid kena, I eventually found out alot of Oku children stopped their Srjk school , not because they want to but because of the school exam quota. They will force parents to tender a letter requested the child to be -out- from that school.
That was a good way of saying kena tendang lah.

Even in private school also got quota but they will not -out- the children la since the study were paid in hefty price.

Glad your kid made it. You did a good job.

I studied igcse

No problem i went uni and now working

But this is because i went private uni

This post has been edited by Raddus: Dec 20 2022, 12:25 AM

Just wanna say I doubt it was because of race
I went to a SMK with the PPKI program and it seem to have a fair share of all races, in fact it had more nons percentage wise than the schools average.

Oh IGCSE is no problemo, its SPM equivalent, so unless your son choose to become a doctor or some government servant else no issues. My friends that did IGCSE all proceed to private uni with no hiccups.

All the best TS I know all parents want the best for their children.

Both got into uni degree after that uni's foundation programme.

IGCSE -> Uni's Foundation Programme -> Uni's Degree

This happens only if one is bumiputera. Only fair if you state this though else your advice is moot for TS.

It's ok , any advise is fine for me. I have stated my worry. After reading replies in my thread, It seemed to be quite simple I guess. IGCSE is equivalent to Spm and as long as my son able to pass IGCSE and get a decent job is fine.

There are also alot of cases where student passed IGCSE with flying colors but are not able to get into local uni but with hefty pay (again) opt for private. If my son is this good in study only I will think about it. I hate going through again with discrimination thoughts for local uni. So which was why I'm fine with him just get through IGCSE only.

He is only year 4 still early to tell his capability but he usually scores A but difficult in handling maths which he got average B+ or A sometimes

This post has been edited by D10yrspain: Dec 20 2022, 08:51 AM

IGCSE is basically O-level in uk (SPM in Malaysia). In uk, its GCSE and can only be sat in uk home curriculum. IGSE is extended in collaboration, which means curriculum offshore.

Both are equally fine for A-level and then Uni admission. If you have plans for foreign uni route, yes just do IGSE here in Msia. A-LEVEL IS KEY

I am sure you know the difference. SPM to A-level and IGCSE to A-level, which has the mileage here.

Like our dad's time, mahathir, anwar secondary education in malaya > Cambridge general certificate O-level

Alternatively, you may check on VCE route in Msia (Victoria Certificate of Education).

This post has been edited by jojolicia: Dec 20 2022, 09:39 AM

True, Russia too

Sorry to disagree. In the uni's form that I fill up, there's no bumi / non bumi column at all. 2 kids already. One have to navigate the hassle of going through the application and enrolment process. Need to talk directly with that uni's intake director / boss. It's a non UPU (SPM) pathway to local uni. Not easy, but doable. The ONLY local public uni that non bumi can't apply IS UiTM. That's all.

Post Msia SPM do have something like express stream pre-u alike, right? (something called what what bistari program? can't recall one of my niece once mentioned and she is doing dentistry in one of the local U now)

This post has been edited by jojolicia: Dec 20 2022, 09:52 AM

Sorry, not so sure about medic / dentistry / pharmacy. I heard it's heavily controlled or regulated field of study.

Hope you understand my main purpose of my thread.
And I'm sorry I don't know much about alot of edu sys but I do have relatives staying in SG, UK, US. That thought of him pursuing foreign country do cross my mind but I rather see how he goes here because no money I don't talk big or think big.

As I mentioned in my thread , I have no choice, he is unwanted by gov school. Just want him have a school to attend to, finish schooling, find ways to survive on his own.

Here I'm really greatful for everyone that gave your input. You guys help lessen my worry eventhough it's just a simple wish of mine. I'm closing this thread.

Other advance advice would probably help others parents of nons Oku students that kena tendang out from school. I understand your struggle. Be strong.