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TSHuman Nature
post Dec 15 2022, 08:01 PM, updated 2y ago

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Hi, I am looking at this unit that come with a small bathroom, where the WC is positioned at the middle with little room to pay around with. I want to install the plastic panel/sliding door (at the red line) to separate the shower unit with the WC, to avoid water splashing over. However, it will be too close to the WC, isn't it? Is it possible to move the whole WC nearer to the sink (blue arrow)? Or any better suggestion? Thank you all
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post Dec 15 2022, 08:49 PM

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QUOTE(Human Nature @ Dec 15 2022, 08:01 PM)
Hi, I am looking at this unit that come with a small bathroom, where the WC is positioned at the middle with little room to pay around with. I want to install the plastic panel/sliding door (at the red line) to separate the shower unit with the WC, to avoid water splashing over. However, it will be too close to the WC, isn't it? Is it possible to move the whole WC nearer to the sink (blue arrow)? Or any better suggestion? Thank you all
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Possible to move WC for landed unit, but not for high rise unit.
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post Dec 15 2022, 08:55 PM

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QUOTE(Phyarc @ Dec 15 2022, 08:49 PM)
Possible to move WC for landed unit, but not for high rise unit.
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Thanks for the insight. What would you do if you are in my shoes?
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post Dec 15 2022, 09:23 PM

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QUOTE(Human Nature @ Dec 15 2022, 08:55 PM)
Thanks for the insight. What would you do if you are in my shoes?
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Use shower curtain instead of permanent screen. The railing can be made to any shape to fit the space and not necessary straight so that there is more room space.
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post Dec 15 2022, 09:38 PM

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QUOTE(mini orchard @ Dec 15 2022, 09:23 PM)
Use shower curtain instead of permanent screen. The railing can be made to any shape to fit the space and not necessary straight so that there is more room space.
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Did think of that, but not so fond of curtain as it makes the room looks abit cheap..
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post Dec 15 2022, 09:40 PM

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QUOTE(Human Nature @ Dec 15 2022, 09:38 PM)
Did think of that, but not so fond of curtain as it makes the room looks abit cheap..
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Depending on the curtain u buy.
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post Dec 15 2022, 09:56 PM

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QUOTE(Human Nature @ Dec 15 2022, 09:38 PM)
Did think of that, but not so fond of curtain as it makes the room looks abit cheap..
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You have limited room space to play around. The reason why the wc is in the middle is because of the door.

You can check with the plumber whether this work ...

Adjust the wc to 45 degree facing the door. Then do a shower screen also at 45 degree. Relocate the shower head to the opposite wall.

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post Dec 15 2022, 10:09 PM

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Tossing this idea around. What if tore down the whole wall (right side) and rebuild it one feet away. Then move the sink and WC to the right too. Too costly? Or sound stupid?
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post Dec 15 2022, 10:16 PM

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can offset a bit. using the offset flange
i think the most is 6 inch or maybe 8 cant recall
but still will kacau the bowl orientation.

coz if shift to the side-to-side cant move much compare shift front-back
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post Dec 15 2022, 10:45 PM

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QUOTE(Human Nature @ Dec 15 2022, 10:09 PM)
Tossing this idea around. What if tore down the whole wall (right side) and rebuild it one feet away. Then move the sink and WC to the right too. Too costly? Or sound stupid?
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You didnt answer post #2, so we all assumed is highrise and the answer is no

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post Dec 15 2022, 11:24 PM

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QUOTE(mini orchard @ Dec 15 2022, 10:45 PM)
You didnt answer post #2, so we all assumed is highrise and the answer is no
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Oh, this is a landed unit.
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post Dec 15 2022, 11:28 PM

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QUOTE(Human Nature @ Dec 15 2022, 11:24 PM)
Oh, this is a landed unit.
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Then no issue. Go ahead. You can also relocated the entire bathroom toilet. Only money matters.
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post Dec 15 2022, 11:30 PM

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QUOTE(Human Nature @ Dec 15 2022, 11:24 PM)
Oh, this is a landed unit.
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If it’s on ground floor, can move. But costly. Hacking, water proof, tiling and when open the WC, wc may break if the installer use cement to fix the Wc. Small adjustment but costly.

Cheapest solution toilet curtain

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post Dec 15 2022, 11:41 PM

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Thanks, I wil explore all options. Still open to new ideas.
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post Dec 16 2022, 06:32 AM

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QUOTE(Femsroot @ Dec 15 2022, 11:30 PM)
If it’s on ground floor, can move. But costly. Hacking, water proof, tiling and when open the WC, wc may break if the installer use cement to fix the Wc. Small adjustment but costly.

Cheapest solution toilet curtain
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Is still worth the spending to have a bigger and functional bathroom toilet in the long run.
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post Dec 16 2022, 06:54 AM

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there is a concept of placing a wash basin outside the bathroom (depending on the room layout). then you'll get bigger space for the wc and shower.
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post Dec 16 2022, 07:26 AM

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Yes, you can move the toilet bowl. Just hack the floor, and extend the sewage pipes to where you want the w/c to be. Finally, make everything good again.

You'll be so much happier in the long run doing this now, even though the cost is a bit high
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post Dec 16 2022, 09:12 AM

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QUOTE(mayonzz @ Dec 16 2022, 06:54 AM)
there is a concept of placing a wash basin outside the bathroom (depending on the room layout). then you'll get bigger space for the wc and shower.
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Yeah. The other bathroom near the kitchen has this wash basin out of bathroom concept, but has similar problem - shower head too near to WC. This one is for the master bedroom so doesn't have much space to wiggle either.



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post Dec 16 2022, 09:23 AM

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Another idea is not to hack the wall, but change the wash basin to a smaller one, then have more space to move the WC further towards the right side. Can save cost. And maybe change the swing door to a sliding/folding type.
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post Dec 16 2022, 10:35 AM

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QUOTE(Human Nature @ Dec 16 2022, 10:12 AM)
Unrelated question, the water tank is not at the ceiling. It is located on the ground, like in the photo. Is the water pressure sufficient for flushing duty?
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I believed there is a water pump to distribute the water to the various points.
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post Dec 16 2022, 10:51 AM

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QUOTE(Human Nature @ Dec 16 2022, 10:12 AM)
Unrelated question, the water tank is not at the ceiling. It is located on the ground, like in the photo. Is the water pressure sufficient for flushing duty?
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U can already use the water now right? If u think the water is not filing fast enough then u will need a pump. U can check with the shop by telling them how many toilets and kitchen. They will propose u the pump size.
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QUOTE(Femsroot @ Dec 16 2022, 10:51 AM)
U can already use the water now right? If u think the water is not filing fast enough then u will need a pump. U can check with the shop by telling them how many toilets and kitchen. They will propose u the pump size.
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Not yet, only the show house unit is ready. So this few things caught my eyes.
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QUOTE(Human Nature @ Dec 16 2022, 10:56 AM)
Not yet, only the show house unit is ready. So this few things caught my eyes.
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This is the rain water tank right. Mayb u can check with the agent. Press them to giv u the answer
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QUOTE(Femsroot @ Dec 16 2022, 11:05 AM)
This is the rain water tank right. Mayb u can check with the agent. Press them to giv u the answer
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Just went to the show unit again. You are right, that is the rainwater collection tank. There is another tank at the ceiling. Phew.
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post Dec 20 2022, 02:04 AM

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Like another member mentioned, the WC is probably there so the door can clear when open/close. Change it to a folding door. I did that for my small bathroom and it “felt” more spacious cause it makes getting in and out feel easier.

Just curious do you have the measurements for your bathroom? Really does look small.
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QUOTE(Jason @ Dec 20 2022, 02:04 AM)
Like another member mentioned, the WC is probably there so the door can clear when open/close. Change it to a folding door. I did that for my small bathroom and it “felt” more spacious cause it makes getting in and out feel easier.

Just curious do you have the measurements for your bathroom? Really does look small.
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It does look small indeed. I have not taken the measurement, just visual.

Yes, I think combination of moving the WC to the right, change to a smaller wash basin and folding/sliding door will do the trick. Just hope this does not affect the floor tiles that much.
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post Dec 20 2022, 04:53 PM

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QUOTE(Human Nature @ Dec 20 2022, 09:19 AM)
It does look small indeed. I have not taken the measurement, just visual.

Yes, I think combination of moving the WC to the right, change to a smaller wash basin and folding/sliding door will do the trick. Just hope this does not affect the floor tiles that much.
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A wall hanging basin without sitting on a tile top will save some space.

Do share measurements when you get it, I’m curious how small a bathroom can be.
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post Dec 27 2022, 10:58 AM

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QUOTE(ungka @ Dec 15 2022, 10:16 PM)
can offset a bit. using the offset flange
i think the most is 6 inch or maybe 8 cant recall
but still will kacau the bowl orientation.

coz if shift to the side-to-side cant move much compare shift front-back
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haiz, my WC just done reno, and shift the toilet bowl (sit type) to side, i noticed that the water orientation is slow flowing, poop cant be flush like usual, like i have to flush 2 time for a clean look, now the toilet got jammed, poop that flushed away got flowed back , and the toilet bowl filled with shitty water sad.gif sad.gif

call the reno guy and he said he will arrange someone to help us, hope he dont bluff us ,
i see you did mention the offset flange, i doubt if they ever use that confused.gif

we didnt suka hati wanna move the toilet, the reno guy say, can ah, can move, then we planned to shift, now BIG and smelly problems occurs cry.gif cry.gif
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QUOTE(hotNcool @ Dec 27 2022, 10:58 AM)
haiz, my WC just done reno, and shift the toilet bowl (sit type) to side, i noticed that the water orientation is slow flowing, poop cant be flush like usual, like i have to flush 2 time for a clean look,  now the toilet got jammed, poop that flushed away got flowed back , and the toilet bowl filled with shitty water sad.gif  sad.gif 

call the reno guy and he said he will arrange someone to help us, hope he dont bluff us ,
i see you did mention the offset flange, i doubt if they ever use that  confused.gif

we didnt suka hati wanna move the toilet, the reno guy say, can ah, can move, then we planned to shift, now BIG and smelly problems occurs cry.gif  cry.gif
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What is the reason to move the WC at the first place? Due to floor size?
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post Dec 27 2022, 11:51 AM

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QUOTE(hotNcool @ Dec 27 2022, 10:58 AM)
haiz, my WC just done reno, and shift the toilet bowl (sit type) to side, i noticed that the water orientation is slow flowing, poop cant be flush like usual, like i have to flush 2 time for a clean look,  now the toilet got jammed, poop that flushed away got flowed back , and the toilet bowl filled with shitty water sad.gif  sad.gif 

call the reno guy and he said he will arrange someone to help us, hope he dont bluff us ,
i see you did mention the offset flange, i doubt if they ever use that  :confused:

we didnt suka hati wanna move the toilet, the reno guy say, can ah, can move, then we planned to shift, now BIG and smelly problems occurs cry.gif  cry.gif
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I redo the toilet and removed the offset flange in the other house done by the previous owner. No recurring problem
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QUOTE(Human Nature @ Dec 27 2022, 11:11 AM)
What is the reason to move the WC at the first place? Due to floor size?
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1. the floor is uneven and water become stagnant on the spot, plus we remove the massage bath tub and need to cover its drainage hole
2. we plan to separate the toilet and the shower area to establish a wet and dry area (it's a 3 room 1 toilet house)



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post Dec 28 2022, 08:21 AM

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QUOTE(mini orchard @ Dec 27 2022, 11:51 AM)
I redo the toilet and removed the offset flange in the other house done by the previous owner. No recurring problem
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idk why the jammed toilet, i never experienced it in my past life either for public toilet, hostel toilet or home toilet bangwall.gif

i not sure what had happened to the toilet and its piping

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post Dec 28 2022, 08:30 AM

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QUOTE(hotNcool @ Dec 28 2022, 08:21 AM)
idk why the jammed toilet, i never experienced it in my past life either for public toilet, hostel toilet or home toilet bangwall.gif

i not sure what had happened to the toilet and its piping
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In a discharve piping, it cannot have more than one bends or U-shape at the begining of flushing or it will hinder the flow.
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QUOTE(mini orchard @ Dec 28 2022, 08:30 AM)
In a discharve piping, it cannot have more than one bends or U-shape at the begining of flushing or it will hinder the flow.
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not sure how the underground piping, let's me show the picture, it moved straight the way to now current location wor

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no u-shaped one or bend bha? shocking.gif
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post Dec 28 2022, 02:07 PM

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QUOTE(hotNcool @ Dec 28 2022, 01:29 PM)
not sure how the underground piping, let's me show the picture, it moved straight the way to now current location wor

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no u-shaped one or bend bha? shocking.gif
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If the contractor did not dig up 6 feet of the flooring, then likely it flows sideway to the old pipe.
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QUOTE(mini orchard @ Dec 28 2022, 02:07 PM)
If the contractor did not dig up 6 feet of the flooring, then likely it flows sideway to the old pipe.
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we didnt watch the construction process, cant find this out,
well, is that the common sense for reno ppl to do so?

it just a small reno company registered, mainly the father and the son came to do one

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