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post Dec 14 2022, 10:06 AM, updated 4y ago

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Apple to Allow Outside App Stores in Overhaul Spurred by EU Laws
Company prepares to allow outside app stores, ‘sideloading’
News triggers stock surge for dating services and other apps



Apple Inc. is preparing to allow alternative app stores on its iPhones and iPads, part of a sweeping overhaul aimed at complying with strict European Union requirements coming in 2024.

Software engineering and services employees are engaged in a major push to open up key elements of Apple’s platforms, according to people familiar with the efforts. As part of the changes, customers could ultimately download third-party software to their iPhones and iPads without using the company’s App Store, sidestepping Apple’s restrictions and the up-to-30% commission it imposes on payments.

The moves — a reversal of long-held policies — are a response to EU laws aimed at leveling the playing field for third-party developers and improving the digital lives of consumers. For years, regulators and software makers have complained that Apple and Google, which run the two biggest mobile app stores, wield too much power as gatekeepers.

If similar laws are passed in additional countries, Apple’s project could lay the groundwork for other regions, according to the people, who asked not to be identified because the work is private. But the company’s changes are designed initially to just go into effect in Europe.

Even so, the news bolstered shares of companies that offer dating services and other apps. Match Group Inc. jumped as much as 10% and Bumble Inc. was up as much as 8.6% — a sign investors think the companies could get a break from Apple’s commissions. Spotify Technology SA, the audio streaming service, climbed as much as 9.7%. Apple’s shares, meanwhile, were little changed.

A spokesman for the Cupertino, California-based company declined to comment on the upcoming changes.

The main new European law, dubbed the Digital Markets Act, takes effect in the coming months, but companies aren’t required to comply with all of the rules until 2024. Government officials in the US and other countries have pushed for similar laws but haven’t gotten as far as the EU yet.

The act requires technology companies to allow the installation of third-party apps and let users more easily change default settings. The rules demand that messaging services work together and that outside developers get equal access to core features within apps and services.

The laws apply to technology companies with market valuations of at least €75 billion ($80 billion) and a minimum of 45 million monthly users within the EU.

The changes underway within Apple are being led by Andreas Wendker, a longtime software engineering vice president who reports to Craig Federighi, the company’s top software executive. Jeff Robbin — Apple’s top engineering manager for its services, who reports to head of services Eddy Cue — is also involved.

Apple is applying a significant amount of resources to the companywide endeavor. It hasn’t been a popular initiative within Apple, considering that the company has spent years decrying the need for “sideloading” — the process of installing software without using the official App Store. In lobbying against the new European laws, Apple has argued that sideloading could put unsafe apps on consumers’ devices and undermine privacy.

Some engineers working on the plan also see it as distraction from typical day-to-day development of future features, according to the people. The company is aiming for the changes to be ready as part of an update to next year’s iOS 17, which would be in line with requirements.

Epic Games Inc., maker of the hit game Fortnite, waged a legal battle with Apple over the App Store fees. After Epic sought to sidestep the commission with Fortnite, Apple removed the game from its store. In the ensuing fight, Epic accused Apple of using monopolistic practices, but a US court found that the iPhone maker didn’t violate federal antitrust laws.

To help protect against unsafe apps, Apple is discussing the idea of mandating certain security requirements even if software is distributed outside its store. Such apps also may need to be verified by Apple — a process that could carry a fee. Within the App Store, Apple takes a 15% to 30% cut of revenue.

Apple hasn’t made a final decision on whether to comply with a component of the Digital Markets Act that allows developers to install third-party payment systems within their apps. That would let users sign up for subscriptions to a travel app, for example, or buy in-app content from a game maker — without involving Apple.

As part of an agreement with the Japanese government, the company already allows some media and cloud apps to point users to the web to complete transactions. But the Digital Markets Act likely wants Apple and other technology giants to go further.

Apple also is working to open more of its private application programming interfaces, or APIs, to third-party apps. Those are the underlying frameworks that allow apps and features to interact with Apple’s hardware and core system functions.

Currently, third-party web browsers, including ones like Chrome from Alphabet Inc.’s Google, are required to use WebKit, Apple’s Safari browsing engine. Under the plan to meet the new law, Apple is considering removing that mandate.

Apple is also working to open up other features to third-party apps, including more camera technologies and its near-field communications chip — at least in a limited fashion. Currently, only the company’s Wallet app and Apple Pay service can use the NFC chip to enable mobile wallet functionality. Apple has faced pressure to let third-party financial apps have the same capability.

The company hasn’t, however, made a decision on how it may open iMessage and its Messages app to third-party services — another requirement of the Digital Markets Act. Engineers believe that such a change could hurt end-to-end encryption and other privacy features offered by iMessage. The company also isn’t currently considering integrating RCS, or rich communication services, a messaging protocol that Google and others are pushing Apple to adopt.

Apple is discussing further opening up its Find My network to accessories, like Tile, that compete with the AirTag. The Find My network allows AirTags to provide their location to its owner by using surrounding Apple devices as signals. While Apple has offered third parties that functionality since 2021, Tile and others have said the company gives its own accessory an advantage.

The EU, which includes France, Germany, Italy and Spain among a total of 27 countries, has threatened fines of as much as 20% of a company’s annual global revenue if they repeatedly violate the law. Apple generated nearly $400 billion in worldwide revenue in fiscal 2022, which would put such a fine in the $80 billion range.

Apple generated about $95 billion in revenue from Europe, which includes the EU and the UK, during fiscal 2022. That revenue base will likely take a hit when it makes the changes, which are poised to make the App Store less lucrative.

Overall, though, Apple should be able to absorb the financial impact. The App Store makes up 6% of total revenue, and Europe’s contribution to that is likely less than 2%, according to Bloomberg Intelligence analysts Anurag Rana and Andrew Girard.

It wouldn’t be the first time Apple had to make major changes to abide by local laws. The company is also planning to use a USB-C connector on the next iPhones in 2023 instead of Lightning, also to meet an EU regulation. In China, the company has made numerous compromises. That’s included using a local provider to host iCloud data and shifting AirDrop settings in a way that made it harder for protesters to share information.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/202...eload-in-europe

This post has been edited by premier239: Dec 14 2022, 10:31 AM
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eu ni powar

use USB-C port ayam support

use 3rd party pay dafuq

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QUOTE(DValentine @ Dec 14 2022, 10:10 AM)
eu ni powar

use USB-C port ayam support

use 3rd party pay dafuq

agak agak sikit
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Stop being cucked by apple.

You paid for the product, you're allowed to install whatever u like.

Apple fan logic really masuk longkang nowadays. Lmao
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post Dec 14 2022, 10:13 AM

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if side load app...
what the use buy apple?
go get android la....
later kena scam/money missing, kpkb pulak...

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QUOTE(pobox @ Dec 14 2022, 10:08 AM)
EU has gone full retard
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EU has always been retarded rclxub.gif rclxub.gif

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QUOTE(pobox @ Dec 14 2022, 10:08 AM)
EU has gone full retard
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dont be fool by manipulative title la.
they r not forcing apple to allow sideloading app, rather allow 3rd party payment option.

ie, u wan sign up subscription from the app in your iphone.
right now, payment channel hav to go through apple's own, basically.
user -> apple -> developer/company
in which apple middle man takes staggering 30% cut by providing the platform only.

however, a lot of these service already existed as web sign in, b4 they even had an ios app.
hence they already hav their own mature payment gateway which they very much like to use.
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QUOTE(Kaya Butter Toast @ Dec 14 2022, 10:13 AM)
Stop being cucked by apple.

You paid for the product, you're allowed to install whatever u like.

Apple fan logic really masuk longkang nowadays. Lmao
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using android

stop simply accuse

BABI
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QUOTE(DValentine @ Dec 14 2022, 10:19 AM)
using android

stop simply accuse

BABI
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whats next, only petrol sold in Honda or Perodua petrol station can be used to pump your car model.

thats how stupid this apple ecosystem is.



2022 and not having a fucking file explorer.
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post Dec 14 2022, 10:21 AM

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QUOTE(Kaya Butter Toast @ Dec 14 2022, 10:21 AM)
whats next, only petrol sold in Honda or Perodua petrol station can be used to pump your car model.

thats how stupid this apple ecosystem is.
2022 and not having a fucking file explorer.
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apple users are mostly masochist, like to get cucuk by apple hari2

they dunno all apple does is for profits only

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i am OK as long as EU don also force Apple to recognize their warranty after side loading causes problems with the phone

same shit i told my clients who buy multi million dollar machines with PLCs..

u paid money so it is ur machine... u r welcomed to paint it pink and change manufacturer settings in the program..

but don come crying when the machine explodes into a million pieces

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QUOTE(moiskyrie @ Dec 14 2022, 10:13 AM)
if side load app...
what the use buy apple?
go get android la....
later kena scam/money missing, kpkb pulak...
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apple also not 100% safe pun... sendiri tgk so many leak from iCloud etc...
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post Dec 14 2022, 10:26 AM

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means apple no longer premium liao or wad? wan know to bash or to praise epal ni
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QUOTE(Kaya Butter Toast @ Dec 14 2022, 10:21 AM)
whats next, only petrol sold in Honda or Perodua petrol station can be used to pump your car model.

thats how stupid this apple ecosystem is.
2022 and not having a fucking file explorer.
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dont like iphone...buy huawei samsung xiaomi lor


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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ Dec 14 2022, 10:26 AM)
means apple no longer premium liao or wad? wan know to bash or to praise epal ni
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no longer premium.. if this move forward, technically iphone just became like any other Android / Harmony OS phone

just few key difference like faster CPU and sleek design, thats all. No longer exclusive.. technically becoming like Sony PS
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dun understand why EU must force apple do this do that

i thought product suppose to be free market?
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im pretty sure apple can just pull out of EU market and then make those EU people fly to US to buy or some shit
there will be lots of grey market that imports into EU but if exiting the market means apple cant work with telco partners and banks / businesses in EU then maybe its not a good idea then
but it would be such a baller move tho, to shut EU once and for all with their demands and shits
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QUOTE(M4A1 @ Dec 14 2022, 10:46 AM)
dun understand why EU must force apple do this do that

i thought product suppose to be free market?
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free market only when it benefits you... similar to what us did to china and eu doing to apple ma..
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QUOTE(Thebestscammer @ Dec 14 2022, 10:47 AM)
im pretty sure apple can just pull out of EU market and then make those EU people fly to US to buy or some shit
there will be lots of grey market that imports into EU but if exiting the market means apple cant work with telco partners and banks / businesses in EU then maybe its not a good idea then
but it would be such a baller move tho, to shut EU once and for all with their demands and shits
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or Apple just set up specifically for EU.. nod.gif nod.gif

like how they offer slightly different service with Brazil (come with Charger) and Japan (Camera got sound) and Hong Kong (Dual Physical Sim) while Americunt spec with eSIM only.
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It's still optional, Apple can choose not to comply, and pay 20%.
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QUOTE(K555 @ Dec 14 2022, 10:26 AM)
apple also not 100% safe pun... sendiri tgk so many leak from iCloud etc...
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long time no use ipong liao....no more kidney to sell...
only left ipad....which maybe move to cheap android.....
but performance to price ratio....ipad win android ....
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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ Dec 14 2022, 10:50 AM)
free market only when it benefits you... similar to what us did to china and eu doing to apple ma..
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us did to china...ktard rage

eu do to apple...support

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Stop being cucked by apple.

You paid for the product, you're allowed to install whatever u like.

Apple fan logic really masuk longkang nowadays. Lmao
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i paid for apple product for them to serve 9 me by providing the best security and 0 worry of any possible scam n virus

pls dont use b40 logic n try hard to persuade t20 the b40 way is btr pls
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so i can use tachiyomi on my iphone liao? i no money subscribe shonen jump app every month liao lol
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Apple fan boy loves paying extra 30% commission, why EU kepochi?
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QUOTE(M4A1 @ Dec 14 2022, 10:46 AM)
dun understand why EU must force apple do this do that

i thought product suppose to be free market?
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Free market only work correctly if the said company did not wield too much power in the industry.
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Apple fan boy loves paying extra 30% commission, why EU kepochi?
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sebab EU dun have big tech giants, so hari2 finding ways to fine US tech companies, look at google, fb always kena by EU too
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Dec 14 2022, 10:39 AM)
Topkek

Soon scam draining away our money gonna be rife in iphones sad.gif
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Apple always have very strict limit to what apps can access, I doubt 3rd party app can simply access data from another app.
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QUOTE(premier239 @ Dec 14 2022, 11:29 AM)
sebab EU dun have big tech giants, so hari2 finding ways to fine US tech companies, look at google, fb always kena by EU too
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Muricans politikus probably funded by all these tech giant in Murica, hence only EU dare to make lots of demand against these tech giants.

EU go go go! rclxm9.gif
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QUOTE(iGamer @ Dec 14 2022, 11:27 AM)
Free market only work correctly if the said company did not wield too much power in the industry.
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problem is...dun like apple by android lor

consumer has over 10-20 other brand what. not like only can use apple ONLY.
apple is not even dominating like 90% market share

apple market share is only 26% in Europe..ala kecik aje
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QUOTE(GiganticBird @ Dec 14 2022, 11:05 AM)
i paid for apple product for them to serve 9 me by providing the best security and 0 worry of any possible scam n virus

pls dont use b40 logic n try hard to persuade t20 the b40 way is btr pls
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My logic doesn't stem from B40 m40 T20 cock.

Its about corporations owning your product and telling you what you can do with it and ifags lap it up year by year.


Freedom to install whatever apps seem foreign to these freaks.

Why must go through their app store? Why can't make apps for free for myself without paying apple cuck taxes
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QUOTE(M4A1 @ Dec 14 2022, 11:40 AM)
problem is...dun like apple by android lor

consumer has over 10-20 other brand what. not like only can use apple ONLY.
apple is not even dominating like 90% market share

apple market share is only 26% in Europe..ala kecik aje
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Apple command 26% market single handedly, that is significant power already.

Also, since Apple has its own ecosystem, meaning it has 100% power within its own ecosystem.

LOL at sheeps protecting the giant tech company that has been milking them dried......
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QUOTE(iGamer @ Dec 14 2022, 11:44 AM)
Apple command 26% market single handedly, that is significant power already.

Also, since Apple has its own ecosystem, meaning it has 100% power within its own ecosystem.

LOL at sheeps protecting the giant tech company that has been milking them dried......
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like i said..u dun like apple ecosystem. no one force u to buy apple also

use la android...

dun like android

use la hongmeng os from huawei

u have a choice...

now EU is like forcing maggie MUST only sell curry and cannot see ayam flavour laugh.gif
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if side load app...
what the use buy apple?
go get android la....
later kena scam/money missing, kpkb pulak...
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QUOTE(Kaya Butter Toast @ Dec 14 2022, 10:13 AM)
Stop being cucked by apple.

You paid for the product, you're allowed to install whatever u like.

Apple fan logic really masuk longkang nowadays. Lmao
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It is just baffling seeing many ifags oppose to those ideas in this thread.

I guess it is proven they are not smart.

How about this, if you don't like the suggestion, you pay extra 20% for the so called premium factor? Interesting

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Bizarre complaints and comparisons by apple users. If you don't like apple locked ecosystem, just use android?
How about if you don't like using 3rd party downloads bcos apparently peanut brain don't know how to not install virus, just use the apple official download!?
I don't get it man. What next, complain that macbook can download other browsers?
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Teh only tyme a dichotomy could prove useful in free market environment?
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ITT non apple users complaining about the shits that apple users never had an issue with
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QUOTE(M4A1 @ Dec 14 2022, 11:46 AM)
like i said..u dun like apple ecosystem. no one force u to buy apple also

use la android...

dun like android

use la hongmeng os from huawei

u have a choice...

now EU is like forcing maggie MUST only sell curry and cannot see ayam flavour  laugh.gif
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Instant noodle analogy is way off.

Focus on the real scenario. Samsung even with bigger market share has zero monopoly on the Android market, only Apple has full monopoly in its own Apple ecosystem. Apple has been very aggressive to making sure its product use only proprietary app store or proprietary cable/connection to lock users within its ecosystem for nothing more than premium profit.

I'm no expert, but is the lightning cable any better than USB type C? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(billylks @ Dec 14 2022, 11:59 AM)
It is just baffling seeing many ifags oppose to those ideas in this thread.

I guess it is proven they are not smart.

How about this, if you don't like the suggestion, you pay extra 20% for the so called premium factor? Interesting
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Ifags have a findom relationship with apple lmao.

They rather let a giant corporation rape them financially and reduce their freedom, like joining a cult.



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QUOTE(iGamer @ Dec 14 2022, 12:06 PM)
Instant noodle analogy is way off.

Focus on the real scenario. Samsung even with bigger market share has zero monopoly on the Android market, only Apple has full monopoly in its own Apple ecosystem. Apple has been very aggressive to making sure its product use only proprietary app store or proprietary cable/connection to lock users within its ecosystem for nothing more than premium profit.

I'm no expert, but is the lightning cable any better than USB type C? hmm.gif
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like u mention

OWN ecosystem...

just like M1 chips ..OWN apple monopoly. laugh.gif


like i said if consumer think apple sucks and lightning sucks..they always have a choice
u dun like toyota car with TOYOTA engine...

u are free to buy PROTON car with PROTON engine or HONDA....or even HYUNDAI..... laugh.gif

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post Dec 14 2022, 12:22 PM

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QUOTE(M4A1 @ Dec 14 2022, 11:05 AM)
us did to china...ktard rage

eu do to apple...support

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post Dec 14 2022, 12:25 PM

Toxic ktards probably losers irl
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QUOTE(M4A1 @ Dec 14 2022, 12:14 PM)
like u mention

OWN ecosystem...

just like M1 chips ..OWN apple monopoly.  laugh.gif
like i said if consumer think apple sucks and lightning sucks..they always have a choice
u dun like toyota car with TOYOTA engine...

u are free to buy PROTON car with PROTON engine or HONDA....or even HYUNDAI..... laugh.gif
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No offence, stop making analogy that oversimplified the real scenario. Your car don’t run on proprietary fuel that need proprietary fuel pump. Just stop using ANAL-ogy. blush.gif
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post Dec 14 2022, 12:29 PM

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QUOTE(iGamer @ Dec 14 2022, 12:25 PM)
No offence, stop making analogy that oversimplified the real scenario. Your car don’t run on proprietary fuel that need proprietary fuel pump. Just stop using ANAL-ogy.  blush.gif
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to me this thing very very simple only

handphone is a free market...similar to car , watches....laptop....with hundred of competitor

no need to restrict the features as consumer always has a choice

end of story.
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QUOTE(billylks @ Dec 14 2022, 11:59 AM)
It is just baffling seeing many ifags oppose to those ideas in this thread.

I guess it is proven they are not smart.

How about this, if you don't like the suggestion, you pay extra 20% for the so called premium factor? Interesting
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Like a thread I read that ppl are bashing the implementation of always on display. Waste battery, aesthetically doesn't suit iOS bla bla...

if they don't like it just toggle it off what's the fuss lol
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QUOTE(Kaya Butter Toast @ Dec 14 2022, 11:43 AM)
My logic doesn't stem from B40 m40 T20 cock.

Its about corporations owning your product and telling you what you can do with it and ifags lap it up year by year.
Freedom to install whatever apps seem foreign to these freaks.

Why must go through their app store? Why can't make apps for free for myself without paying apple cuck taxes
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because u need apple platform? what is your app's value without the platform like app store n google store? no one even know the existence of ur app la

man the same stupid ass question given with perfect answer n reason ages ago whr u can find online n u still stuck at it

anyway u want cheap freedom so u choose slum, i choose guarded area
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post Dec 14 2022, 01:12 PM

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holy shiat, iOS is no longer safe lol
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post Dec 14 2022, 01:19 PM

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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ Dec 14 2022, 01:12 PM)
holy shiat, iOS is no longer safe lol
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Walled garden also got hacked ald

Else why still got news bank money stolen when use ipong?
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QUOTE(TruboXL @ Dec 14 2022, 01:19 PM)
Walled garden also got hacked ald

Else why still got news bank money stolen when use ipong?
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Stupidity due to users isn't fault of system lol
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QUOTE(GiganticBird @ Dec 14 2022, 01:11 PM)
because u need apple platform? what is your app's value without the platform like app store n google store? no one even know the existence of ur app la

man the same stupid ass question given with perfect answer n reason ages ago whr u can find online n u still stuck at it

anyway u want cheap freedom so u choose slum, i choose guarded area
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what need apple platform? bodo.

I want to create my own apps for my own phone for my own personal use, why need to pay?

dumbass lmao, not everything is about making money.

Its called owning the right to your hardware. Just like right to repair, your beloved apple fighting tooth and nail to squeeze you more money.


ifags logic tahap taik kuceng lmao






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QUOTE(M4A1 @ Dec 14 2022, 12:14 PM)
like u mention

OWN ecosystem...

just like M1 chips ..OWN apple monopoly.  laugh.gif
like i said if consumer think apple sucks and lightning sucks..they always have a choice
u dun like toyota car with TOYOTA engine...

u are free to buy PROTON car with PROTON engine or HONDA....or even HYUNDAI..... laugh.gif
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like u mention

OWN ecosystem...

just like MCA ..OWN BN monopoly. laugh.gif
like i said if voters think UMNO sucks and MCA sucks..they always have a choice
u dun like BN with UMNO...

u are free to vote PH with DAP or PN....or even BEBAS.... laugh.gif
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QUOTE(TruboXL @ Dec 14 2022, 01:28 PM)
like u mention

OWN ecosystem...

just like MCA ..OWN BN monopoly.  laugh.gif
like i said if voters think UMNO sucks and MCA sucks..they always have a choice
u dun like BN with UMNO...

u are free to vote PH with DAP or PN....or even BEBAS.... laugh.gif
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of course

u dun said?
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QUOTE(M4A1 @ Dec 14 2022, 01:34 PM)
of course

u dun said?
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Chill mate

don’t drag your level down to theirs

Really have no idea why they so hardcore complaining whatever Apple does, a very simple “Lu tak suka lu keluar” logic doesn’t seem to apply to their brain and wallet
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QUOTE(M4A1 @ Dec 14 2022, 11:46 AM)
like i said..u dun like apple ecosystem. no one force u to buy apple also

use la android...

dun like android

use la hongmeng os from huawei

u have a choice...

now EU is like forcing maggie MUST only sell curry and cannot see ayam flavour  laugh.gif
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Its not an APPLE ACT
EU already have rules for every manufacturers to comply
But apple yang bodo ikut suka bapak dia
Keep on violating regulations all other manufacturers followed

It closer to eu forcing all noodle maker to not include cancer in ingredient but maggie mati mati nak include carcinogenic noodles.
If apple cannot follow the rules, get out of eu market
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EU is a small piece of the pie, fuck them
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EU is increasingly interested in punishing digital giants like google fb apple brows.gif

free money
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QUOTE(moiskyrie @ Dec 14 2022, 10:59 AM)
long time no use ipong liao....no more kidney to sell...
only left ipad....which maybe move to cheap android.....
but performance to price ratio....ipad win android ....
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