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 Oil & Gas Careers V13 - Upstream & Downstream, 2023 is a busy year for Oil & Gas fags

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ZZMsia
post Mar 23 2023, 08:52 AM

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QUOTE(Stamp @ Mar 18 2023, 10:13 AM)
I wonder MMHE will team up with which consultant for this delicious Lang Lebah EPCI project. It teamed up with TEN for Kasawari Ph 1, but later ditched TEN in favour for Worley for Kasawari Ph 2.

Now S is out of the picture, will PTT invite outside fabricators to bid for this job? Or would PET allow PTT to do that?
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For kasawari 1, TEN was partner.
For Kasawari 2, TEN was competitor and won easily by MMHE. For Kasawari 2, PET allowed for foreign bidder (NPCC) but the schedule is not attractive as the platform transport takes between 30-60 days compared to a few days for local transport.

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post Mar 24 2023, 03:12 AM

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QUOTE(ZZMsia @ Mar 23 2023, 08:52 AM)
For kasawari 1, TEN was partner.
For Kasawari 2, TEN was competitor and won easily by MMHE. For Kasawari 2, PET allowed for foreign bidder (NPCC) but the schedule is not attractive as the platform transport takes between 30-60 days compared to a few days for local transport.
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Im guessing the T&I cost killed the bid for TEN and NPCC.
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post Mar 24 2023, 06:52 AM

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Theres viral post on twitter saying that some PET guys got a bonus of 7 months..
Anyone can verify? For average performance ?

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post Mar 24 2023, 02:37 PM

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QUOTE(ZZMsia @ Mar 24 2023, 06:52 AM)
Theres viral post on twitter saying that some PET guys got a bonus of 7 months..
Anyone can verify? For average performance ?
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That’s average performance. High flyers could get 12 months.
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post Mar 24 2023, 02:40 PM

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QUOTE(ZZMsia @ Mar 24 2023, 06:52 AM)
Theres viral post on twitter saying that some PET guys got a bonus of 7 months..
Anyone can verify? For average performance ?
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Why do you want to know other people's bonus?
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post Mar 25 2023, 06:11 AM

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QUOTE(Stamp @ Mar 24 2023, 02:37 PM)
That’s average performance. High flyers could get 12 months.
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very nice and I wish the same can be said for contractor side....
Anyway good for govt and LHDN..
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post Mar 25 2023, 06:23 AM

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QUOTE(Stamp @ Mar 24 2023, 03:12 AM)
Im guessing the T&I cost killed the bid for TEN and NPCC.
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MMHE been taking all Msian jobs anyway unless one that need more advanced technical expertise such as ZLNG, isnt it.
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QUOTE(lock_82 @ Mar 25 2023, 06:23 AM)
MMHE been taking all Msian jobs anyway unless one that need more advanced technical expertise such as ZLNG, isnt it.
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MMHE not invited for that Z LNG

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post Mar 25 2023, 02:28 PM

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QUOTE(ZZMsia @ Mar 25 2023, 07:16 AM)
MMHE not invited for that Z LNG
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Recently MMHE secured an EPCI job from CPOC; 5 wellhead platforms and 5 new pipelines. MMC is the engineering contractor.
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post Mar 25 2023, 10:57 PM

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Running biz in Msia is definitely more lucrative than employment in Msia.

Nevertheless, having low cpga does hurt chances to get in major mnc at get go but no harm trying. Worse case, you can start with smaller companies and eventually you can move to better roles as relevant experience counts a lot more than CGPA in near future. I have seen successful people with 3.0 result to start with.

Having said that, the competition ia extremely tough at all levels in term of finding good job. Especially in Malaysia, it is about who you know instead of what you know.

QUOTE(CertifiedHomphobe @ Mar 25 2023, 09:30 PM)
Hi guys! Would like to ask opinions from the veterans in the OnG industry.

I'll keep it short and be slightly ambiguous to protect my identity. Fresh graduate here ,please ignore my stupid username , I thought it would be funny but I can't change the username now.

To start off ,  I've interned in this industry previously , worked on the EPCIC of the kasawari and jerun projects with the PMT (Subcon) as a PE in the fabrication of CPP jackets. Fell in love with the industry , and had a really great experience during my short tenure. As for the field im in , Im a chemical engineering graduate , looking to get into any position of PD, PMT , or permittance / corporate (Also interested in the business aspect of the industry) .

My graduating CGPA isnt that great nor too bad which is 2nd upper class >3.0 , but I'm under the suspicion that this will hurt my chances in the industry severely if I wanna get into MNCs or GLCs as they're expecting really high pointers (saw one from Sapura , it was mind boggling to see them ask 3.5 above  biggrin.gif ) . This is going to sound like an excuse , but my cgpa is the result of my own 'Min Maxing' , I was focusing on other things such as business and entrepreneurship , held managerial positions in supplying , manufacturing and FnB when studying (which I must admit was because I had the privilege to do so but an opportunity I wasn't going to waste) . Built an extensive network my 'extra curricular' business, but before I pull out that card and be called a nepo baby , I want to try this out with my own capabilities.

My question is , how much of a shot do I have in entering the upstream/downstream industry with the experience that I have (PMT and entrepreneurship) even with a mediocre cgpa without entering any protege or trainee programmes. I've basically done the most that I can to make myself stand out from the rest of the crop and I'm prepared to defend that statement as I personally believe i have great skillsets to back that up. How hard is it for a fresh graduate to go 'offshore' , there really isnt any 'guide' per say. Or is this some pipe dream that I have and I should just give up and continue what im doing now. Do companies even bother to look at my previous 'vast' experiences or are they solely filtering out CGPAs.

Basically im trying to get into 'premium' position for fresh graduates , career progression and pay means a lot to me to justify this change of wind.  Would love to hear from you guys , sorry for the long post.
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post Mar 26 2023, 06:31 AM

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QUOTE(CertifiedHomphobe @ Mar 25 2023, 09:30 PM)
Hi guys! Would like to ask opinions from the veterans in the OnG industry.

I'll keep it short and be slightly ambiguous to protect my identity. Fresh graduate here ,please ignore my stupid username , I thought it would be funny but I can't change the username now.

To start off ,  I've interned in this industry previously , worked on the EPCIC of the kasawari and jerun projects with the PMT (Subcon) as a PE in the fabrication of CPP jackets. Fell in love with the industry , and had a really great experience during my short tenure. As for the field im in , Im a chemical engineering graduate , looking to get into any position of PD, PMT , or permittance / corporate (Also interested in the business aspect of the industry) .

My graduating CGPA isnt that great nor too bad which is 2nd upper class >3.0 , but I'm under the suspicion that this will hurt my chances in the industry severely if I wanna get into MNCs or GLCs as they're expecting really high pointers (saw one from Sapura , it was mind boggling to see them ask 3.5 above  biggrin.gif ) . This is going to sound like an excuse , but my cgpa is the result of my own 'Min Maxing' , I was focusing on other things such as business and entrepreneurship , held managerial positions in supplying , manufacturing and FnB when studying (which I must admit was because I had the privilege to do so but an opportunity I wasn't going to waste) . Built an extensive network my 'extra curricular' business, but before I pull out that card and be called a nepo baby , I want to try this out with my own capabilities.

My question is , how much of a shot do I have in entering the upstream/downstream industry with the experience that I have (PMT and entrepreneurship) even with a mediocre cgpa without entering any protege or trainee programmes. I've basically done the most that I can to make myself stand out from the rest of the crop and I'm prepared to defend that statement as I personally believe i have great skillsets to back that up. How hard is it for a fresh graduate to go 'offshore' , there really isnt any 'guide' per say. Or is this some pipe dream that I have and I should just give up and continue what im doing now. Do companies even bother to look at my previous 'vast' experiences or are they solely filtering out CGPAs.

Basically im trying to get into 'premium' position for fresh graduates , career progression and pay means a lot to me to justify this change of wind.  Would love to hear from you guys , sorry for the long post.
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You knew already that to get the “premium” job as a fresh graduate in oil&gas would require a candidate to have super high CGPA. Why don’t you be pragmatic and practical by aiming for a less “premium” job as a start?

If you CGPA is between 3.0 to 3.5, there’s still hope for you to join the consultants. Your prospects will be higher if you apply for oil&gas construction sector or oil&gas services sector.

Actually I laughed my heads off when I read of S looking for fresh graduates with a minimum CGPA of 3.50. I think its mgmt is delusional to think that for a company financially unstable now to have such high ambition to recruit the best fresh graduates in the market. I bet the freshies if they join S, will leave the company after a short stint in the company when they find out how the company is managed.

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post Mar 26 2023, 11:39 AM

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My first response is this:
Protege, please think twice before signing up.

It seems to be treated as a paid internship rather than a graduate program.

The salary from my junior is RM2,000/month and no EPF payable by employer or employee.


My junior is very disappointed with his experience (still in protege and actively trying to get a proper job) (According to HOD, no chance to be absorbed considering what he studied and his current department in the firm).


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post Mar 26 2023, 11:49 AM

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Let me summarize:

Fresh grad
1. Degree: Chemical Engineering
2. Previous experience: PMT for 2 projects under MMHE Subcon
3. Scope: Jacket (Structures)
4. Grade: >3.0<3.5.
5. Experience besides Oil industry: business and entrepreneurship , held managerial positions in supplying , manufacturing and FnB when studying

How hard is it for a fresh graduate to go 'offshore'
Answer: Depends on which company you join. If you join a HUC company or drilling company, the chances are there. Also, for consultant firm, if you are supporting offshore brownfield projects, there is good chance (as a discipline engineer but not Project).

But don't be so choosy as I see that you want "everything".
"Everything" being:
1. Chance to go offshore.
2. Premium position for fresh grad
3. Career progression
4. Pay


You need to realize that there are thousands of fresh grads like you and some of them have top CGPA in engineering and want to join O&G "premium" companies.
Most of them are willing to drop No 1-4 in exchange for experience in O&G since manufacturing and other non O&G pays badly (Except for software and IT).
Based on your experience above, I don't see you joining premium company at the start as per what stamp mentioned.
you can be practical and aim for less.

I suggest: MMHE since you already worked for their subcon before.
Else, you can try consultants such as Worley, Aker, Technip, RNZ, DAR, MMC, etc (Salary will be 3-3.5k).

MMHE is urgently looking for manpower to help them execute their projects. However, as a process engineer your knowledge will not be so strong if you start at a fabricator. (I doubt technical careerpath is what you are looking for - long term). You can try for construction engineer or project engineer..




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QUOTE(Stamp @ Mar 26 2023, 06:31 AM)
You knew already that to get the “premium” job as a fresh graduate in oil&gas would require a candidate to have super high CGPA. Why don’t you be pragmatic and practical by aiming for a less “premium” job as a start?

If you CGPA is between 3.0 to 3.5, there’s still hope for you to join the consultants. Your prospects will be higher if you apply for oil&gas construction sector or oil&gas services sector.

Actually I laughed my heads off when I read of S looking for fresh graduates with a minimum CGPA of 3.50. I think its mgmt is delusional to think that for a company financially unstable now to have such high ambition to recruit the best fresh graduates in the market. I bet the freshies if they join S, will leave the company after a short stint in the company when they find out how the company is managed.
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S is offering fresh grad opportunity but their senior and more senior talent pool have left.
I do believe as what you said, the freshies will join S and leave once a better opportunity comes knocking.............

If i am S (HR), I will look for fresh grad with no specific CGPA requirements and filter.

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@Zzmsia, kudos to the straight to the point explanation.

Most note worthy is that tons of people lining up for opportunity in O&G industry from fresh to seasoned exp people.

Start with local companies and move way up would be best choice here. In 10yrs time, could end up being an expat elsewhere too.

P.s. MMHE has all the jobs in Msia that experience would be to die for esp young engineers.

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QUOTE(lock_82 @ Mar 27 2023, 05:16 AM)
@Zzmsia, kudos to the straight to the point explanation.

Most note worthy is that tons of people lining up for opportunity in O&G industry from fresh to seasoned exp people.

Start with local companies and move way up would be best choice here.  In 10yrs time, could end up being an expat elsewhere too.

P.s. MMHE has all the jobs in Msia that experience would be to die for esp young engineers.
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Yes and MMHE recent project CPOC is WHP, whereby most of the scope has structural and you can use it as first experience to showcase your talent to management.

Don't worry about not joining other premium companies as it is slightly easier to join them with experience (Fresh grad has too many into O&G).

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Was in your position during MCO, no one was hiring that time. Had to jump multiple sector & companies and now in tech field.
Background in Pet Eng too.

But had a friend went to MMHE and he's happy there.
The one's on clients & bigger vendors (SLB/Halliburton) got it through connections.
It is what it is though....
Don't give up. I probably want to go back but I think it'll be as management (have a VP from SLB to tech)

QUOTE(ZZMsia @ Mar 26 2023, 11:49 AM)
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I suggest: MMHE since you already worked for their subcon before.
Else, you can try consultants such as Worley, Aker, Technip, RNZ, DAR, MMC, etc (Salary will be 3-3.5k).

MMHE is urgently looking for manpower to help them execute their projects. However, as a process engineer your knowledge will not be so strong if you start at a fabricator. (I doubt technical careerpath is what you are looking for - long term). You can try for construction engineer or project engineer..
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Technip during MCO literally skeleton crew iinm
But thought they all would pay much more than 3.5k rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(DupeIkan @ Mar 27 2023, 12:07 PM)
Was in your position during MCO, no one was hiring that time. Had to jump multiple sector & companies and now in tech field.
Background in Pet Eng too.

But had a friend went to MMHE and he's happy there.
The one's on clients & bigger vendors (SLB/Halliburton) got it through connections.
It is what it is though....
Don't give up. I probably want to go back but I think it'll be as management (have a VP from SLB to tech)
Technip during MCO literally skeleton crew iinm
But thought they all would pay much more than 3.5k  rclxub.gif
Esp. Aker
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For fresh graduates, 3-200-3-500 per month and mostly did not get proper increment after few years. Need to jump to make it work..
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QUOTE(ZZMsia @ Mar 27 2023, 02:17 PM)
For fresh graduates, 3-200-3-500 per month and mostly did not get proper increment after few years. Need to jump to make it work..
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That's kinda sad.
Thought that amount was more than a decade ago.



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