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TSdickybird
post Dec 7 2022, 02:46 PM, updated 2y ago

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But why the text in my edge browser looks so fuzzy?
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post Dec 7 2022, 02:47 PM

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post Dec 9 2022, 08:34 AM

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Only browser or other programs too?
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post Dec 9 2022, 01:49 PM

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QUOTE(xxboxx @ Dec 9 2022, 08:34 AM)
Only browser or other programs too?
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Using a Samsung FHD 24 inch monitor
Text is fuzzy and some chroma and gets worse with eye saver function turned.
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post Dec 9 2022, 01:53 PM

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You set wrong resolution?
Set wrong DPI?
Custom zoom levek on browser?
Check clear type font setting?
Nothing wrong on my win 11 pc
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post Dec 9 2022, 08:01 PM

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QUOTE(dickybird @ Dec 9 2022, 01:49 PM)
Browser
Using a Samsung FHD 24 inch monitor
Text is fuzzy and some chroma and gets worse with eye saver function turned.
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Google Chrome? Make sure updated to latest.
If you already try ClearType, try adjust Windows display scaling. If cannot also try disable hardware acceleration in Chrome.
You use Nvidia GPU and recently got make changes in 3D Settings? Try adjust the Google Chrome program setting in there.
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post Dec 9 2022, 09:24 PM

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QUOTE(xxboxx @ Dec 9 2022, 08:01 PM)
Google Chrome? Make sure updated to latest.
If you already try ClearType, try adjust Windows display scaling. If cannot also try disable hardware acceleration in Chrome.
You use Nvidia GPU and recently got make changes in 3D Settings? Try adjust the Google Chrome program setting in there.
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Mainly using Edge browser nowadays.
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QUOTE(dickybird @ Dec 9 2022, 09:24 PM)
Mainly using Edge browser nowadays.
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Edge also using Chromium now
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post Dec 18 2022, 11:34 PM

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QUOTE(dickybird @ Dec 7 2022, 02:46 PM)
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But why the text in my edge browser looks so fuzzy?
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Is this only happen? or all the while is like that.

As many said, you should check whether you are running native resolution, which as you mentioned FHD - 1920x1080.
Make sure clear type is turn on as well.
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post Dec 21 2022, 11:28 AM

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QUOTE(dickybird @ Dec 7 2022, 02:46 PM)
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But why the text in my edge browser looks so fuzzy?
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Goto browser settings and change minimum font size to 13 or 14 at least...
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post Dec 21 2022, 07:29 PM

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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Dec 18 2022, 11:34 PM)
Is this only happen? or all the while is like that.

As many said, you should check whether you are running native resolution, which as you mentioned FHD - 1920x1080.
Make sure clear type is turn on as well.
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Update win10 to win11 and change to new 24 inch Samsung HD display only noticed this.
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post Dec 23 2022, 12:30 PM

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QUOTE(ifourtos @ Dec 7 2022, 02:47 PM)
QUOTE(PJng @ Dec 9 2022, 01:53 PM)
You set wrong resolution?
Set wrong DPI?
Custom zoom levek on browser?
Check clear type font setting?
Nothing wrong on my win 11 pc
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QUOTE(xxboxx @ Dec 9 2022, 10:09 PM)
Edge also using Chromium now
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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Dec 18 2022, 11:34 PM)
Is this only happen? or all the while is like that.

As many said, you should check whether you are running native resolution, which as you mentioned FHD - 1920x1080.
Make sure clear type is turn on as well.
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Once i turned off DPI scaling, the artifacts are gone.
problem solved.

QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Dec 21 2022, 11:28 AM)
Goto browser settings and change minimum font size to 13 or 14 at least...
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post Dec 24 2022, 02:50 PM

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Try this?
edge://flags/#edge-enhance-text-contrast

It will honor your cleartype setting.

BTW, don't set DPI scaling other than 150% etc(forgot which one the best lol), many software get unsupported somehow and just simple upscaling...

Until now windows still unsupported OLED(it is not regular rgb layout), lucky many just using OLED for game and video la, as can burn screen, better using it for those motion and need color accurate one.
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post Dec 27 2022, 02:21 PM

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Don't set DPI scaling. Usually we don't adjust that because it will force the display to scaling the DPI to look bigger in size but it will look pixelate. Usually it for bad eye sight person such as elderly.
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post Dec 27 2022, 05:36 PM

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QUOTE(BenYeeHua @ Dec 24 2022, 02:50 PM)
Try this?
edge://flags/#edge-enhance-text-contrast

It will honor your cleartype setting.

BTW, don't set DPI scaling other than 150% etc(forgot which one the best lol), many software get unsupported somehow and just simple upscaling...

Until now windows still unsupported OLED(it is not regular rgb layout), lucky many just using OLED for game and video la, as can burn screen, better using it for those motion and need color accurate one.
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The cleartype settings all look like shit.
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post Dec 27 2022, 10:02 PM

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QUOTE(dickybird @ Dec 27 2022, 05:36 PM)
The cleartype settings all look like shit.
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I agree, you need to use 150%/200% then use MacType, else most font rendering is...
Those 96dpi can't handle the font rendering, you need to make it like mac, high DPI and use better rendering.

For me I prefer greyscale cleartype, much better for readability(not the best for looking, but good for reading), sadly they disabled it after MSEdge, left with IE which is dead incoming.... sweat.gif

https://github.com/snowie2000/mactype


I hope they really plan to rebuild around this, just add new type of rendering like greyscale without removing cleartype la, so can support 99% apps.
Else, when in 5 years OLED screen becoming standard, it will be painful to see the taskbar burn and font rendering still using RGB instead of greyscale that maintain both side. doh.gif

Just, like firefox and edge, borrow code/idea from linux/chrome la, like ios and Android both are borrowing from Android OEM feature. nod.gif
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QUOTE(jonathanYYDS @ Dec 27 2022, 02:21 PM)
Don't set DPI scaling. Usually we don't adjust that because it will force the display to scaling the DPI to look bigger in size but it will look pixelate. Usually it for bad eye sight person such as elderly.
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pixelate is the problem of app not supported, Windows trying to fix it with WinRT api, sadly most not going to UWP lol. laugh.gif

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DPI Awareness status definitions

Per-Monitor Aware: Per-monitor DPI-aware. These applications check for the DPI when they are started, and adjusts the scale factor whenever the DPI value changes. These applications are not automatically scaled by the system.

System Aware: System DPI-aware. These applications do not scale for DPI changes. They query for the DPI one time, and then use that value for the lifetime of the application. If the DPI changes, the application does not adjust to the new DPI value. It will be automatically scaled up or down by the system when the DPI changes from the system value.

Unaware: DPI-unaware. These applications do not scale for DPI changes. They are always assumed to have a scale factor of 100 percent (96 DPI). These applications are automatically scaled by the system at any other DPI settings.

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/w...b0-960b99aa347d

Secondly, the DWM rendering also, they catch up with Android just on Windows 8.1, multi-plane overlay(know as hardware composite in Android Dev setting), so can 0/1 buffer without flip and display the latency, but until Windows 11 it just getting started to works.
https://forums.guru3d.com/threads/disabling...-issues.445266/

Right now, if you using 2 monitor, either you rendering 120fps(for example) for 120 and 60fps monitor, or 60fps for both, not to mention copying of data in between graphic card too.
The DPI aware also... doh.gif

PS: the 120fps one you need to use Nvidia Profile Inspector, setting as multiple monitor compatible, no to AMD and Intel yet...

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