every time i have replaced 2 old tyres, i ask the tyre shop boss to place the new tyres on the rear and bring the existing 2 used tyres to the front. and every single time they laugh saying that its best to have the new in front. the staff doing the work also make negative remarks about my request. anyone knows a tyre shop in KL/PJ where they know its best to put the new tyres in the rear, and i dont get mocked for that decision?

Aren't they actually right??

FF car need new tires at the front because both used for steering and driving.

majority of the stopping power is at the front when you brake so dont you want new tyres with plenty of grip at the front?
in the event where you skid and want to regain control, front new tyres with lots of grip will save you rather than old ones at the front.

new tyres at the back and old tyres in the front just doesnt make sense

This post has been edited by ExCrIpT: Nov 22 2022, 09:39 AM

https://www.wapcar.my/news/front-or-rear-wh...new-tyres-22760

just tell them you pay money they do what you want la. laugh laugh what? laugh some more tell them no need to do, give back money you go elsewhere.

On the surface yes.

But most drivers instinctively know how to correct for understeer. Not for oversteer. Oversteer happens when you have more grip in the front than the rear, especially mid corner when lateral forces are highest.

Also when braking, weight transfer will go to the front, leaving little "weight" and hence grip at the rear causing a potential tail out, which unless you are properly trained, will usually not be recoverable. To correct for oversteer, you need to know how to correctly countersteer and let off the brakes get back on the throttle to transfer weight back to the rear to settle it. It is quite counter intuitive for most drivers.

On straight line braking, the front will usually clear the water minimizing rear aquaplaning, but this does not happen in a corner, in fact the front tyre will put water in the path of the rear tyres leading to potentially higher risk of the rear aquaplaning.

That is the logic of putting new tyres on the back.

FWIW I put new tyres on the front. But I also know how to correct an oversteer condition well.

This post has been edited by jaycee1: Nov 22 2022, 09:56 AM

Shops people are not so technical. They just learn from an old sifu which is not so properly technically trained.

Once I told a shop to set my car up for a very radical suspension alignment and they scoffed at the idea saying the car will not be drivable. Perhaps by novice drivers. My car with the setting so just so damn fun, quick and agile on the corners. It would run rings around much more sporting cars on a short track...assuming you know how to drive.

Learn the mechanics and physics behind what you want to do and then you will understand why and what you do regardless of what these guys tell you.

https://www.bridgestone.co.in/en/tyre-clini...tyres-be-fitted

https://www.goodyear.com/en-US/learn/choosi...-only-two-tires

https://www.popularmechanics.com/cars/how-t...unked-10031440/

The link mentioned rear axle but on FF, there's no rear axle and it is not the driving wheels.

its ok if u put new tyres front. i post this thread to find out if anyone know shop where they aware of rear install new tyre

If I open tyre shop, I con-lan-firm put new tyres at the rear.

If customer wants me to put in the front, I will ask customer to sign a written declaration that he confirms that he forced the shop to put the new tyres at the front.

If he crashes, then he cannot sue me say I simply do things unprofessionally

front or rear nvm. as long d car got esp abs ebd.
myself prefer front becos want to play sliding

beside this, road noise also improved.

if tyre traction no good. consider to play with pressure

Regardless of fwd or rwd, new tyres at the rear for most consumers because they have absolutely no idea how to deal with oversteer. Most of the dashcam videos you see where cars lose control of their vehicles are always from losing traction at the rear, and you can observe that they have absolutely no idea how to correct it.

If you want sources to back this claim, just refer to the links TS shared. Every single tyre manufacturer recommends new tyres at the rear for most consumers.

Now for those who obviously have experience dealing with oversteer, or even intentionally initiate it for fun hehe, go ahead with your tyre setup preferences. You definitely know what you're doing. But please don't tell the average joe to put worn out tyres on the rear.

As for TS, you can try TS Tyre Autocare at Bandar Puteri Puchong. They do not judge when I tell them to set specific alignment preferences, etc. They will give their opinions but ultimately decision is on you and they would understand too.

This post has been edited by HalseyFrangipane: Nov 23 2022, 02:27 AM

Yes. Always new tires for the rear if just change 2pcs.

This is not recommended at 1st, as most car manufacturer if follow the correct way of maintaining tires you will need to rotate the tires front to back every 5~10k (Or during service time) If you did the same recommendation, the tires should be balance on all 4 and change at one time. Balance tire can provide better traction and control for all sides compare to just 2pcs.

For those dude who said new tyre to the front, I sure hope you had the skill to control an unexpected oversteer condition and you know what you are doing.
And for ts, those dude are just plain dumbass, insist on them to put on the rear, if not, just tell them sorry if they can't give you what you want then no deal and ciao.