Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register )

Outline · [ Standard ] · Linear+

 Asset Backed Solutions ABS

views
     
MUM
post Nov 17 2022, 08:16 AM

10k Club
********
All Stars
14,855 posts

Joined: Mar 2015

QUOTE(glamoroussoul @ Nov 17 2022, 07:54 AM)
The amount of ppl asking for more information on xiaohongshu baffles me. I can’t believe ppl are falling for this. But I can’t seem to find any information about this on the internet. So it’s probably still a new thing. We shall see how it all ends.
*
i think it is common to see that,...i saw this on the internet too,
LAGI bETTER and canggih than xiaohongshu



Attached thumbnail(s)
Attached Image
MUM
post Nov 17 2022, 08:24 AM

10k Club
********
All Stars
14,855 posts

Joined: Mar 2015

QUOTE(honsiong @ Nov 17 2022, 08:19 AM)
Eh, teach us how to generate such good return when nearly the entire 2022 is bear market leh.  The monthly returns langsung no correlation with other markets pun.
*
i cannot teach as i did not join it...
they are open only thru "referal"

perhaps after joining (if you know where and how to look for it) biggrin.gif brows.gif
then maybe only then, they will show you how to generate such good return even when nearly the entire 2022 is bear market.
MUM
post Nov 17 2022, 07:45 PM

10k Club
********
All Stars
14,855 posts

Joined: Mar 2015

SC guidelines on asset backed securities

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&...vAuxQ01F4nOL0dE



Attached thumbnail(s)
Attached Image
MUM
post Nov 18 2022, 08:10 AM

10k Club
********
All Stars
14,855 posts

Joined: Mar 2015

QUOTE(honsiong @ Nov 18 2022, 02:55 AM)
ABS here macam doesn't refer to the usual ABS we know, it's the company's name. They come off like realty company with agents posing with cars on xiaohongshu.
*
Oh, thanks for telling.
Asset based solution (company's name) is NOT asset based Securities (products) that is under the purview of SC.
In that case, it may not be actually operating under asset based securities requirements of the SC.
Perhaps trying to fool people. Just proven I got fooled too.

Perhaps a new spin off of the previous "cash fund" products being offered by the Trust companies....where it was said to be asset based investment too. (Asset does not meant only properties).
Now maybe because of actions taken by the authorities on the offering of those "cash fund" after some press highlights, they changed to avoid the direct mention of cash fund like investment.

This post has been edited by MUM: Nov 18 2022, 09:02 AM
MUM
post Jan 12 2023, 08:27 AM

10k Club
********
All Stars
14,855 posts

Joined: Mar 2015

QUOTE(FairyCheek @ Jan 12 2023, 08:22 AM)
I just went attend for the talk yesterday.
I have deposited some amount and gonna see how can they generate the income for me. In other words, "test water".
According to them, its backed by SSM and the profit will be generated on weekly basis.
They have a guaranteed fixed investment return, but i did not take up that investment.
*
Mind elaborating what is "backed by SSM" means?
Is SSM gonna fulfill what that company failed in its promises to you?

What is the locking period of your money?
Are there any penalty if you need to withdraw suddenly next 2 months?
MUM
post Jan 17 2023, 09:23 AM

10k Club
********
All Stars
14,855 posts

Joined: Mar 2015

I believes,
Whatever the scheme it is, they are not backed by SSM.
SSM does not back any scheme.
MUM
post Jan 17 2023, 09:37 AM

10k Club
********
All Stars
14,855 posts

Joined: Mar 2015

QUOTE(wlchong79 @ Jan 17 2023, 09:25 AM)
ofcox. what they interpret  is they are agent for one of the SSM approved interest scheme only.

i have attended the talk too.
*
Is it,
Something like the previous "Cash trust funds" that got into the limelight ... last year.

MUM
post Jan 17 2023, 10:15 AM

10k Club
********
All Stars
14,855 posts

Joined: Mar 2015

QUOTE(wlchong79 @ Jan 17 2023, 09:44 AM)
cash trust funds without assets backed .. ABS by itself mean for asset backed solution ..LOL
*
I got this from the net, ....
Reported to be from the trust company...

It did mention " investment to be safeguarded with asset of equal value and accumulatively, ....."

This post has been edited by MUM: Jan 17 2023, 10:16 AM


Attached thumbnail(s)
Attached Image
MUM
post Jan 17 2023, 10:35 AM

10k Club
********
All Stars
14,855 posts

Joined: Mar 2015

QUOTE(wlchong79 @ Jan 17 2023, 10:31 AM)
any trust deposit certificate?
*
I think that was a contract of agreement or something like that between the company and the person putting in the money.
MUM
post Jan 17 2023, 11:57 AM

10k Club
********
All Stars
14,855 posts

Joined: Mar 2015

QUOTE(wlchong79 @ Jan 17 2023, 11:04 AM)
under which trust company?
*
Did not specific in the copies that I got from the net...thus unable to confirm with trust company.
MUM
post Jan 23 2023, 03:32 PM

10k Club
********
All Stars
14,855 posts

Joined: Mar 2015

QUOTE(FairyCheek @ Jan 23 2023, 03:14 PM)
1 year locking period. Daily profit about 0.10-0.15%.
*
if 0.10% daily = 0.10 x 365 days = 36.5% pa
thumbsup.gif

if 0.15% daily = 0.15 x 365 days = 54.75% pa
thumbup.gif

wow if compounded daily = lagi MORE thumbup.gif thumbup.gif

https://www.thecalculatorsite.com/finance/c...nd-interest.php



This post has been edited by MUM: Jan 23 2023, 04:03 PM


Attached thumbnail(s)
Attached Image
MUM
post Feb 6 2023, 01:05 PM

10k Club
********
All Stars
14,855 posts

Joined: Mar 2015

QUOTE(rae0724 @ Feb 6 2023, 12:20 PM)
If my guesstimation are right, ...different product and different company than what TS mentioned, ...especially the mentioned "Daily profit about 0.10-0.15%."


This post has been edited by MUM: Feb 6 2023, 01:14 PM


Attached thumbnail(s)
Attached Image Attached Image
MUM
post Feb 6 2023, 01:47 PM

10k Club
********
All Stars
14,855 posts

Joined: Mar 2015

QUOTE(rae0724 @ Feb 6 2023, 01:41 PM)
Can have a look on this?

here's the explanation of abs, but it's in Chinese, assume it's the same way how abs earn here
http://xhslink.com/eLo89m

But I doubt it can earn that much...

i try to search Asset Backed Solution keyword on FB, and there's few coming out.
If anyone know how to read please advice, I got no idea what's that

https://www.facebook.com/100063773313108/po...mibextid=cr9u03
Can find some other info on this FB page

Seems like related to Yong Thai Berhad?
and only those invest big amount "can backup" by a property? I don't know

Then I look into their website:
https://ytbcap.com/program-structure
Not sure how it works lol

Seems like different ABS under different company? But then they seems like related
confused haha
*
My guess is they are operating like the previously (last year) hotly pushed "cash trust" finds....until they stopped promoting it after the scheme was exposed in the press.

To me, it is the same modus operandi...just under different name and packages
MUM
post Feb 6 2023, 02:01 PM

10k Club
********
All Stars
14,855 posts

Joined: Mar 2015

QUOTE(rae0724 @ Feb 6 2023, 01:50 PM)
I see, need to do research a bit
back that I was not into investment yet
just trying to start recently, and looking for the one suitable for me
stock is too hard, and this uhmm..
guess... only FD left hahahaha
*
Luckily you posted this now, if you had posted this 6 months earlier, some may suggest you a company that had been operating since 2009, has a 2.2 million memberships and has a 10 billion AUM..
Put in 1k usd, get back that 1k usd 1 year later.
Let the balance ride n roll over for another 10 years, ....you will get 1 million usd then. No need to put in anymore money, no need to do anything.

But now, they dare not suggest that company already.... devil.gif

MUM
post Feb 7 2023, 03:57 PM

10k Club
********
All Stars
14,855 posts

Joined: Mar 2015

QUOTE(FairyCheek @ Feb 7 2023, 03:48 PM)
Do any of you interested to join in the investment talk? Perhaps you can understand better.
*
i believe some would be interested to know more by themselves before PM you for more details about that investment talk.
they may prefer to "research" more about it without being subjected to "pressure sales" while at the investment talk, or go there unprepared in advance as of what to ask.
thus i believes it would be beneficial for them if you could details more about your company in the open here.

i think,
if you are NOT soliciting for money, i believes it should be ok with the moderator
as you are just sharing some "investment" vehicle
if it is offered for free and without cost for those info, why not. The world needs more free things.

so far, some of the info given by you are ......

QUOTE(FairyCheek @ Jan 12 2023, 08:22 AM)
I just went attend for the talk yesterday.
I have deposited some amount and gonna see how can they generate the income for me. In other words, "test water".
According to them, its backed by SSM and the profit will be generated on weekly basis.
They have a guaranteed fixed investment return, but i did not take up that investment.
*
potentially interested parties do take note of this "its backed by SSM"

QUOTE(FairyCheek @ Jan 23 2023, 03:14 PM)
1 year locking period. Daily profit about 0.10-0.15%.
*
potentially interested parties do take note of this
if 0.10% daily = 0.10 x 365 days = 36.5% pa
if 0.15% daily = 0.15 x 365 days = 54.75% pa
QUOTE(FairyCheek @ Jan 24 2023, 11:15 AM)
Agree, its pretty much similar as Triumph FX. The profit generated even for weekends too. So far for a week, I've got $10. But the profit can be withdraw at every $50.
*
potentially interested parties do take note of this "its pretty much similar as Triumph FX"

QUOTE(FairyCheek @ Feb 1 2023, 10:53 PM)
Yes, you are right. One year locking period for the capital. Min. $50 for profit withdrawal.
*
potentially interested parties do take note of this "One year locking period for the capital. Min. $50 for profit withdrawal"
Post 67, he confirmed, even if you are willing to pay penalty, you cannot withdraw during lock in period,

QUOTE(FairyCheek @ Feb 1 2023, 10:55 PM)
It does sound interesting, isnt it. I am just trying out. It has been in the market for about 2 years.
*
potentially interested parties do take note of this ...."about 2 years in the market"

QUOTE(FairyCheek @ Feb 7 2023, 08:54 PM)
Min. is just 1k usd. No harm to try for a year as its very new to the market. But i am just like everyone here, i am very sceptical with this investment plan, so i just try out with 1k. Still need some time to understand the background. If anyone is keen to go, let me know and just try to understand the investment plan and share your thoughts.
*
potentially interested parties do take note of this "Min 1k USD"

This post has been edited by MUM: Feb 9 2023, 07:53 AM
MUM
post Feb 7 2023, 07:33 PM

10k Club
********
All Stars
14,855 posts

Joined: Mar 2015

QUOTE(FairyCheek @ Feb 7 2023, 07:26 PM)
Yup, understand on your end. I am not the agent btw, for me, i just invest some small fund to let it run for a year. I am attracted by the profit, well, thats greed in me! Haha. Having that said, i am ready to lose that amount of small fund. smile.gif
*
for many people, GREED is GOOD,
btw, what is the minimum sum required?

This post has been edited by MUM: Feb 7 2023, 07:33 PM
MUM
post Feb 7 2023, 09:08 PM

10k Club
********
All Stars
14,855 posts

Joined: Mar 2015

QUOTE(FairyCheek @ Feb 1 2023, 10:53 PM)
Yes, you are right. One year locking period for the capital. Min. $50 for profit withdrawal.
*
just in case,...the investor really needed the money after deposit but before the 1 year lock in period expired, ....he cannot withdraw or they allowed withdrawal but subject to penalty fees?
if the deposit is subjected to penalty,...how many % will be deducted?

MUM
post Feb 8 2023, 07:57 AM

10k Club
********
All Stars
14,855 posts

Joined: Mar 2015

QUOTE(FairyCheek @ Feb 8 2023, 07:52 AM)
Sorry guys, i didnt inquire that much on penalty fee. I am not a smart investor. 😂
And they recently expand the investment plan to HK.
*
thanks for telling...
since you had already joined....
can you just check it out for the benefits of those that could be interested?

thanks
MUM
post Feb 8 2023, 12:40 PM

10k Club
********
All Stars
14,855 posts

Joined: Mar 2015

QUOTE(FairyCheek @ Feb 8 2023, 12:31 PM)
I just checked with them. They said unable to withdraw as the contract is one year locking period. As of now, my account is generating profit of $30. Will withdraw once accumulate to $50.
*
Thanks for checking an confirming it out.
Appreciated all the info you had shared.
Hope those interested and having read your info as compiled in post 58, would contact you.
Post 58 are sort of some basic FAQs.

MUM
post Feb 8 2023, 01:06 PM

10k Club
********
All Stars
14,855 posts

Joined: Mar 2015

QUOTE(FairyCheek @ Feb 8 2023, 12:55 PM)
And yes, just like one of them mentioned, its backed by Yong Tai Berhad. Should still be safe as of now since its quite new to the market.
*
I think, some would also keen to know what that company invested in with the money. As the more than 36% pa returns is very high. They maybe doubt the sustainability of the payout.

Is there documented evidence that that product is really from Yong Tai Berhad?
That company that offer that scheme may just be a subsidary. Thus not much direct legal implications to YongTai Berhad if a subsidiary were to close down.

Did Yong Tai Berhad sign any documents directly with YOU?

If your agreement are made with that subsidary or your payment are made to that subsidary....Go chase after the subsidary, not Yong Tai Berhad.


This post has been edited by MUM: Feb 9 2023, 12:34 PM


Attached thumbnail(s)
Attached Image

2 Pages  1 2 >Top
 

Change to:
| Lo-Fi Version
0.0326sec    0.71    7 queries    GZIP Disabled
Time is now: 29th November 2025 - 07:31 PM