Older users should remember Amy Rose, smellyocheese's and my hedgie. She passed away a few days ago of old age. She was 4years and a few months old. She died in her sleep.

I'm gonna miss her...She's always been unique and special. We had her for almost 4 years. Thanks for the 4 special years Amy, we love you!

This post has been edited by TAGreptiles: Jun 24 2008, 02:20 AM

thats not true. it depends on each individual hedgie and the owner.

i think my Amy is the longest living one around this forum? she's the first batch along with pickles and sparkie i think...

sometimes, i think you people care too much about the thing. they're solitary animals which do not need you to touch/carry/fondle them everyday.

to be honest, bonding time with my amy is only when she bath once every 2 weeks. other then the usual odd day pet and sniff session, she's just there.

its not that i'm asking you all to not care about the animal. but they're like that. they prefer it to be that way. they might be affectionate, but not all the time. if you want a pet that you can bring around everywhere and touch whenever you want to, get a glider.

PS: wet wood chips breeds mites. the mushroom is the least of your worries. mites can be deadly to a hedgie if untreated. to me, best bedding=newspaper. or breeder select cat litter.

This post has been edited by TAGreptiles: Jun 25 2008, 01:07 PM

no offence to you and demon, i had and still have gliders. and yet so, my glider is unique and special just like amy. i understand everybit of your feelings. i felt it personally when my glider died.

bathing time is bonding time. she gets time outs to roll around the house compound, in my yard, she's not affraid of my cat, in fact i think their friends, and you should see connie sleeping with her on my sofa couch. to me thats bonding but my bad that i dint include the details in my post.
maybe its time that the breeding stops...

understand that when there's demand, there's always supplies to fill those demands...

heard of Pie the glider?

not all T's and reptile keepers are cold and heartless. i assure you that.

we're just giving our opinions and advices to those who're willing to take them. New owners especially. For one, we would never deny anyone with the hopes of going through what we've gone through with Amy Rose. I think that one of the best experiences in life. Once i was like you, but in another kind of case. I know a friend who produces home-made raw food for dogs and cats. I was horrified at first that its just raw meat. She asked me a question that hit me. Dogs and Cats are carnivours in the wild. Way back before they're domesticated. Why would they lose the ablity to eat raw food?
What i ment to say is that, they're just like that. They're not domesticated. They're solitary in nature, and like humans, the stress factor comes to play. whatever it is your intentions are, which i doubt is ever bad, daily handling makes them stressed out. Which can lead to death as well.

what we're trying to get through here is, its not fair to tell a person they cant keep one. but when they do, do it right. and right does not always means, playing with them everyday, bathing them every 5 days or how many days bla bla bla, keeping them in this linen thing, right could just simply mean, keep then alive and well, and most important of all...happy.

In terms of letting children handle her, which we do loads and loads of time over, you should actually get to understand your lil creature first. we do not let children pet it for fun, hold them for fun, or taking pictures for money, we're just telling them and teaching them the value of all life. I'll ask you this.

When you first brought back Demon, what did your grandmother say? I bet it sounded something like, what did you bring that ugly thingy back home? why dont you just get a dog/cat/chicken/horse?

Education and awareness starts young. To teach a kid something that is contradicting what their parents teach them is a hard task. One day, when you get your own exotic little animals, try talking to a pre-school owner if you could just go in, show and tell about your pets, teach children that hedgies dont shoot quils or snakes are not always dangerous, you will get what i'm trying to convey here. you wanna know why is it do hard to promote responsible pet ownership to malaysians in general? Head down to the SPCA or Pet Epicure in Taman Melawati, or any organizations that does rescue work. So do not ever mock the work and the cause that we're fighting for. Believe me, every precaution had been taken and looked into on the event of a meet and greet session.

I know you mean no harm to us. I'm not flame baiting. Do what you think its best for your animals, stop judging people for how they handle their pets. Hedgehogs or not. Other then that, have a nice day, and i hope you will find your way to another lil hedgie that would make both of you happy for a very very long time. Also a notable trait is that you done your research before having one which is never ever a bad thing.

I really dont wanna say this Hao, but its ALMOST NEVER because of the quality of the Animal or what mongrel the animal is. Its the keeper. Its never about the percentage, those are numbers that people make up to make them self feel better. Its that simple. No matter how much i smile and how much i tell my self that Amy's live her life to her ripe and old age and happy, i cant stop the nagging feeling that i could have done something about it. Somehow i could have stopped it if only i did something more. Amy's generation and the current generation of hedgies are only 3 apart. What kind of drastic changes could that be that their lifespans are shortened to 1-2years? and quoting the bolded part of your statement, animals in captivitity survives much longer then wild ones, because they're dependant their human caretakers. Take some time to reflect what i've said.

Connie: the vibe is not only too hard for YOU to handle. some other Elites and Mods have begun to avoid this thread as well...

This post has been edited by TAGreptiles: Jun 26 2008, 01:03 AM

aiyah...i speak my mind. you know me lar jon jon...last time u also flaming kaki werd. thats why i prefer to stay away from pets wonderland. too many smart people here already. wan see flame? i give u flame...hun's gonna delete it anyways...



now back to console couch...hohohoh....

This post has been edited by TAGreptiles: Jun 26 2008, 02:52 AM

Amy's cinnamon...i think she's one of the few cinnamons around...lol..