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mywufi
post Oct 6 2007, 08:58 AM, updated 17y ago

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i got problem here, 3 days ago i'm recieve email from lagos, nigeria. his name abukara (bukan nama sebenar) regarding the camera i'm selling of.. and telling me he transfer 500USD by western union.. this what i got 1st email

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Hello seller, am interested in the immedaite purcahse of your item,i want to present it as a gift to a very close friend of mine who is on tour  overseas at the moment., well am willing to pay you $500 USD for the items and its shipment via dhl , and payment will be made via WESTERN UNION AUCTION PAYMENTS,your payment will be getting to you in form of a money order, in which you can take to any bank of your choice and cash it,it is a very reliable mode of payment,all i require from you now is your full name,Residential address,city,state,zipcode,mobile number and country,get back to me with the following information above for fast payment. Thanks and god bless.

Kindly remove this ad from the classified site you posted it. so as to avoid other buyers.

Hoping to hear from you soon.

Regards.
abukara


then, after 1 days i got email from western union

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Dear wufi,
The Western Union(R) Auction Payments hereby congratulates you and at the same time informing you that the (R) Money OrderSM sent to you by " Mrs bla bla"has just been Confirmed and Approved once again.

(R) Money OrderSM: $500 USD Please verify that the following address,as entered by the buyer,is correct.

Name: wufi.
Full Contact Address: *alamat umah aku.
Postal Code:47600.
Country:Malaysia.
Mobile Number : *no tepon aku

If there is mistake in the above informations,please contact the buyer to correct the error therein.

This Order is approved as a (R) Money OrderSM  $500 USD  and  will be dispatched to the above address via the Western Union(R) Auction Payments Private Mail after shipment tracking number has been received for shipment verification.The (R) Money OrderSM is estimated to be delivered to you in the above address in 2 to 3 business days after the shipment tracking number has been received.You CAN NOW ship the item to the buyer while the (R) Money OrderSM will be on th way to you as soon as shipment is verified.You are expected to make the shipment within 48 hours of recieving this Payment Approval Notification and get to our Customer/Technical Dept.With the tracking number for Payment Verification.Go to payee_approved@mail........com

***PLEASE NOTE***
The Money OrderSM will NOT be dispatched until shipment has been verified. This measure is taken in order to protect both seller's and buyer's inte rests and to reduce the occurrence of fraudulent activities.

*SHIPMENT VERIFICATION*
You can have the shipment confirmed/verified in any of the following ways:
1.Contact Western Union(R) Auction Payments stating the Western Union(R)Auction Payments Order Number and the Tracking Number of the shipment (payee_approved@mail.com).

***PLEASE NOTE***
Due to the fact that to Western Union(R) Auction Payments processes thousand s of orders daily,Western Union(R) Auction Payments RECOMMENDS contacting the Customer Support Representative that has been assigned to this particular Order directly.This ensures speedy verification of shipment as well as prompt dispatch of the Money OrderSM.Send tracking details to payee_approved@mail.com  2.You can give the buyer of your auction item the tracking number of the shipment and once he/she verifies the shipment,he/she will notify us immediately.Please do not allow your buyer or a third party to gain access to this Payment Approval Notication.
======================================================================
Once shipment has been verified, You will receive an" ORDER CONFIRMATION" email from The Western Union (R) Auction Payments informing you that the Money OrderSM ha s been dispatched to your address.You will also receive a "10 DIGIT PIN Western Union (R)Auction Payments " via this email.
======================================================================

*CUSTOMER SUPPORT*
If you have any questions, Please feel free to contact the Customer Support Representative that has been assigned to this particular Order at (payee_approved@mail.com)
Thank you for using Western Union (R) Auction Payments..................................... We look forward to serving your online auction payment needs better in the future.



erm, very curious here, and i'm telling him, that i need the MTCN (Money Transfer Control Number) to verify. then i got 2nd email...

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Thanks for your mail, the MTCN will be sent to you as soon as western union verifies your shipment due to security reasons.

Expecting the shipment tracking number today.

abukara


after telling him berkali2 about MTCN he always reply same answer.. waahh, what can i do? just sent the items or ignore it? and then i got email for 10 digits number from western union?? somebody please help me.. dono if i kena con or tak.... doh.gif

thanks notworthy.gif

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post Oct 6 2007, 09:48 AM

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QUOTE(mywufi @ Oct 6 2007, 08:58 AM)
i got problem here, 3 days ago  i'm recieve email from lagos, nigeria. his name abukara (bukan nama sebenar) regarding the camera i'm selling of.. and telling me he transfer 500USD by western union.. this what i got 1st email

CODE
Hello seller, am interested in the immedaite purcahse of your item,i want to present it as a gift to a very close friend of mine who is on tour  overseas at the moment., well am willing to pay you $500 USD for the items and its shipment via dhl , and payment will be made via WESTERN UNION AUCTION PAYMENTS,your payment will be getting to you in form of a money order, in which you can take to any bank of your choice and cash it,it is a very reliable mode of payment,all i require from you now is your full name,Residential address,city,state,zipcode,mobile number and country,get back to me with the following information above for fast payment. Thanks and god bless.

Kindly remove this ad from the classified site you posted it. so as to avoid other buyers.

Hoping to hear from you soon.

Regards.
abukara


then, after 1 days i got email from western union

CODE
Dear wufi,
The Western Union(R) Auction Payments hereby congratulates you and at the same time informing you that the (R) Money OrderSM sent to you by " Mrs bla bla"has just been Confirmed and Approved once again.

(R) Money OrderSM: $500 USD Please verify that the following address,as entered by the buyer,is correct.

Name: wufi.
Full Contact Address: *alamat umah aku.
Postal Code:47600.
Country:Malaysia.
Mobile Number : *no tepon aku

If there is mistake in the above informations,please contact the buyer to correct the error therein.

This Order is approved as a (R) Money OrderSM  $500 USD  and  will be dispatched to the above address via the Western Union(R) Auction Payments Private Mail after shipment tracking number has been received for shipment verification.The (R) Money OrderSM is estimated to be delivered to you in the above address in 2 to 3 business days after the shipment tracking number has been received.You CAN NOW ship the item to the buyer while the (R) Money OrderSM will be on th way to you as soon as shipment is verified.You are expected to make the shipment within 48 hours of recieving this Payment Approval Notification and get to our Customer/Technical Dept.With the tracking number for Payment Verification.Go to payee_approved@mail........com

***PLEASE NOTE***
The Money OrderSM will NOT be dispatched until shipment has been verified. This measure is taken in order to protect both seller's and buyer's inte rests and to reduce the occurrence of fraudulent activities.

*SHIPMENT VERIFICATION*
You can have the shipment confirmed/verified in any of the following ways:
1.Contact Western Union(R) Auction Payments stating the Western Union(R)Auction Payments Order Number and the Tracking Number of the shipment (payee_approved@mail.com).

***PLEASE NOTE***
Due to the fact that to Western Union(R) Auction Payments processes thousand s of orders daily,Western Union(R) Auction Payments RECOMMENDS contacting the Customer Support Representative that has been assigned to this particular Order directly.This ensures speedy verification of shipment as well as prompt dispatch of the Money OrderSM.Send tracking details to payee_approved@mail.com  2.You can give the buyer of your auction item the tracking number of the shipment and once he/she verifies the shipment,he/she will notify us immediately.Please do not allow your buyer or a third party to gain access to this Payment Approval Notication.
======================================================================
Once shipment has been verified, You will receive an" ORDER CONFIRMATION" email from The Western Union (R) Auction Payments informing you that the Money OrderSM ha s been dispatched to your address.You will also receive a "10 DIGIT PIN Western Union (R)Auction Payments " via this email.
======================================================================

*CUSTOMER SUPPORT*
If you have any questions, Please feel free to contact the Customer Support Representative that has been assigned to this particular Order at (payee_approved@mail.com)
Thank you for using Western Union (R) Auction Payments..................................... We look forward to serving your online auction payment needs better in the future.

erm, very curious here, and i'm telling him, that i need the MTCN (Money Transfer Control Number) to verify. then i got 2nd email...

CODE
Thanks for your mail, the MTCN will be sent to you as soon as western union verifies your shipment due to security reasons.

Expecting the shipment tracking number today.

abukara


after telling him berkali2 about MTCN he always reply same answer.. waahh, what can i do?  just sent the items or ignore it? and then i got email for 10 digits number from western union?? somebody please help me.. dono if i kena con or tak.... doh.gif

thanks  notworthy.gif
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u try to send lor....then u see wat will happen tongue.gif

my advice...say NO NO to NIGERIAN.....they r big time scammer....

p/s: if u send, be prepare for the worst (memang kena tipu la)

U can see that the western union email is fake....mana ada western union email using free mail punya....of coz if they wanna send, it will be like xxx@westernunion.com

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post Oct 6 2007, 10:27 AM

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please check and double check whether the email from western union is from a phising website

cause nigerians are known to use fake western union sites, and IIRC, got ppl here kena b4
ask him for a code, and check and double check on the REAL western union site
assume the email is unauthentic until u can verify at western union website

the real website : www.westernunion.com


Added on October 6, 2007, 10:29 amor, you could try to scam him, and say the shipment is on its way

then about 3 days later, tell him that malaysian custom has hold the item for export charges and that you need funds to clear it
say about USD 30 and u need insta cash because you got no money as the western union still not in =D


Added on October 6, 2007, 10:32 amoh, and tell him that the shipping u sent is economy express without tracking to save money. why? because u cant afford priority express with tracking. money not in yet ma tongue.gif

scam the scammer!!

This post has been edited by daijoubu: Oct 6 2007, 10:32 AM
lee82gx
post Oct 6 2007, 11:05 AM

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does not look like a proper transaction to me.
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post Oct 6 2007, 11:20 AM

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DO NOT BE GREEDY

Thats my advise....
If its too good to be true, then its not true..

If its too troublesome, then find another buyer.
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post Oct 6 2007, 11:58 AM

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QUOTE(daijoubu @ Oct 6 2007, 10:27 AM)
please check and double check whether the email from western union is from a phising website

cause nigerians are known to use fake western union sites, and IIRC, got ppl here kena b4
ask him for a code, and check and double check on the REAL western union site
assume the email is unauthentic until u can verify at western union website

the real website : www.westernunion.com


Added on October 6, 2007, 10:29 amor, you could try to scam him, and say the shipment is on its way

then about 3 days later, tell him that malaysian custom has hold the item for export charges and that you need funds to clear it
say about USD 30 and u need insta cash because you got no money as the western union still not in =D


Added on October 6, 2007, 10:32 amoh, and tell him that the shipping u sent is economy express without tracking to save money. why? because u cant afford priority express with tracking. money not in yet ma tongue.gif

scam the scammer!!
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wah....great idea....malaysia custom hold my stuff...i need USD30 for the processing fee
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post Oct 6 2007, 12:53 PM

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the name is just wufi, If im not mistaken u need full name and mtcn number to claim money(mostly at BCB)
mywufi
post Oct 6 2007, 01:41 PM

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thanks guys, will scam him when i got a change... biggrin.gif


Added on October 7, 2007, 12:32 amdonno what to say, another mail from him.. what can i tell him ah? are malaysia money transfer same like there?

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Thanks for your mail, the mail reason why western union will have to verify your shipment first before the give you the MTCN , is due to the high increase in internet fraud this days, so they protect the interest of the buyer and the seller from any fradulent activities.

I hope this is understood by you.

Expecting the shipment tarcking number on monday.

Regards.



This post has been edited by mywufi: Oct 7 2007, 12:32 AM
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post Oct 7 2007, 01:37 AM

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Western Union won't verify your shipment because it's not their responsibility to do so. Their main business is transfering money the fastest way they can.

This is obvious scam. Immediately after making transaction MTCN will be generated.

I'm dealing with Western Union on daily basis....so this is an obvious scam!

This post has been edited by Eunose Roadster: Oct 7 2007, 01:39 AM
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post Oct 7 2007, 06:00 AM

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QUOTE(mywufi @ Oct 6 2007, 01:41 PM)
thanks guys, will scam him when i got a change... biggrin.gif


Added on October 7, 2007, 12:32 amdonno what to say, another mail from him.. what can i tell him ah? are malaysia money transfer same like there?

CODE
Thanks for your mail, the mail reason why western union will have to verify your shipment first before the give you the MTCN , is due to the high increase in internet fraud this days, so they protect the interest of the buyer and the seller from any fradulent activities.

I hope this is understood by you.

Expecting the shipment tarcking number on monday.

Regards.

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tell him that you understand and that you are glad that there is such a thing to prevent a scam, cause u were afraid, but now no longer
show him that u are enthusiastic about the whole thing

"send it out" and tell him you did it
give him a fake 9 number code for a shipping company
preferably a malaysian one like sure reach or etc, something not too popular
then say that it will only start tracking once the item is cleared by customs, before that, while its still inside malaysia, it isnt tracked
then few days later, say customs called, and they are charging u export duties, say u need money cause ur broke and his money isnt in yet
ask for something small, USD30 perhaps xD

gogogo scam the scammer xD
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post Apr 11 2009, 05:32 AM

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send the a machine gun, not money. and tell him to use it on himself smile.gif)


Added on April 11, 2009, 5:33 amDamn, i replied to a 2-year old thread. Stupid me sad.gif

This post has been edited by zendragon: Apr 11 2009, 05:33 AM
mywufi
post Jun 9 2009, 06:23 PM

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no problem, i;m still reading my post.. hehe..

thanks ghuys!!
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post Jun 12 2009, 05:17 PM

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It's definitely a scam. I used to deal with a lot of Western Union transactions and the you will get MTCN on the spot when you send out the money. He want the item without paying you. If you got time, scam him back.. Make up stories and use your creativity. Here one of the example of to scam the scammer back. This is work of me and my friend last week.

http://petronasadvisorscam.blogspot.com/

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post Jun 13 2009, 07:45 AM

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Lol, I deal with Western Union at least 5-6 times a month. No need verify shipment etc. Totally scam.

Careful. smile.gif Some country like Indonesia only need MTCN to receive money. I think Malaysia will need the country+first name+last name+MTCN.

Tell him, no MTCN no shipment. Make it clear to him, you deal with Western Union not first time, tell him according to WU no such thing as verify shipment from WU. Even after you receive MTCN, go to WU site to track the MTCN whether is valid or not, even the MTCN valid, better still go take from bank first coz if he sent USD1 also makes the MTCN valid XD.

No need scam back la, else you are at the wrong side for scamming. He could twist and turn back to you.

 

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