Plan to buy a 2 sty terrance house fully renovation into 2.5 sty but without renovation CF. Anyone here got experience purchase house with similar condition. Can I apply the renovation CF after I purchase the house. Will I be fine or demolishing the illegal reno parts if I had purchase the house?

freehold no cf normally no issue if no one purposely go and report you. i have experienced before reno extension without permit and not approved (semi-d) back full extension. Fined 10k and thats the end of it.

do take not sometimes although have approved drawing doesn't mean have cf also, they're supposed to get a new cf issued after reno.

Edit: Regarding getting cf after u buy, i doubt its possible unless it is an approved design and you would have to redraw and reapply. even so most people would just remain quiet and wait unless you are confident you can settle with the officer, or else you're basically giving them a reason to mark you.

This post has been edited by sijun: Oct 19 2022, 12:48 PM

Depending on which majlis the house's at, whether ur neighbor want to kacau u, whether the RA/JMB is strict.

But for MBSJ, a renovation/extension without submission, will trigger the assessment division to slap you with a higher (some say max) cukai taksiran that you'll be paying for as long as you own the house.

My most concern no the 1 time fined but the local authority will demolish the entire illegal renovation built like the front & back fully extend and another half storey built on top the 2nd floor.

This cost will kill me.

This one really depends on your luck/ officer in charge already. some majlis and officer may be more lenient and some may not. Very case to case basis.

I feel if its a major construction which there is no way to be allowed then better stay away from it. if just illegal extensions maybe easier to plea. a whole storey seems risky.

what you can do is go to you local majlis jabatan bangunan and ask them for certain areas like the one you wanna buy if adding a half storey is possible to approve or not. if yes then safer, if they say totally will not approve then better stay away.

Unless the price is very good, better don't. Will affect your insurance if no CF

Very attractive price and within my budget.

which area?

if under mpaj, u can legalise it.. they call it as program pemutihan bangunan kediaman..
but with condition, u have to appoint architect to prepare the submission plan, get consent letter from the immediate neighbours and of course pay some compound between rm3-5k

Is located under MPAJ. Then the owner should apply it then only sell or I buy it over then only apply. What the duration?

Are you working in MPAJ any reference?

Your major concern is not the local authority but .....

An extension without cf is considered illegal and may void part or entire fire insurance policy.

No other property available or die die must buy that unit ?

Not say die die must buy. If can settle the reno illegal issue then can buy without worry. The house location meet, selling price, fully reno & partly furnish, house size meet our requirement. Hardly can find and beed searching for so long.

Got bear house selling RM570K. Thinking to buy and reno own design with permit. This may be the 2nd option.

You can only settle it if you are the owner aka after buying or ask seller to do it and I highly doubt he will.

Local authority wont give any oral or written confirmation on inquiry but will advise buyer to make an official submission after the purchase and they will review.

You take risk ?

This post has been edited by mini orchard: Oct 19 2022, 10:46 PM

Option 1- take risk. many houses in Malaysia renovated without proper CF. Especially those 10 years ago. even now also happen regularly.
unlikely town council will do anything

Option 2- get an architect to make an assessment, to see if the extension comply to local code and if they are willing to prepare the drawing and sign off to make application.
but this is a long throw, what is their incentive to do this? are they willing to risk their license for this.
and even in their view is ok- the town council officer might impose additional requirement, eg awning, windows etc

and you can only do this after the transaction complete.

Make it a condition in your SPA that the owner must legalise the renovation and get the CFO for you. Now it is still buyer's market. Why take the risk?

better get it cleared up and settle first.

its like having a knife hanging over your head wondering when it will drop on you.

rules and laws change over time. it maybe 10k today but it could be 50k tomorrow.
better to have a peace of mind.

Dont have to necessary go to such trouble.

More tnc will make the snp complicated.

Show cf, then buy.

This post has been edited by mini orchard: Oct 20 2022, 10:42 AM

most probably the seller will find another buyer if such hassle

If you're worried, then just look for other option.

no use trying to get owner to legalize it. 99% of owner who never had cf before and had never encountered any issues have no reason to do it just for you. adding in snp is useless if owner wont do, just means cannot proceed.

That is his right but deperate buyers will eventually get 'scammed'.

Buyer may give money to lawyer as stakeholder but seller may not sign snp without deposit.

Seller can request 6 months to legalised the cf, but can buyer wait ? Plus another 3 or 6 months to complete the snp.

Either way, is never a good start for a purchase.



This post has been edited by mini orchard: Oct 20 2022, 11:00 AM