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post Oct 4 2022, 08:07 AM, updated 4y ago

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A woman took to social media after posting side-by-side photos of branded skincare products from a certified seller on Shopee and with the same items she had bought at an actual store, pointing out the differences.

Although she reported her findings to Shopee right away, she has been unsatisfied with the online platform’s response.

“Shopee is covering for sellers of counterfeit goods,” wrote Ms Mary Ang on the Complaint Singapore Facebook page on Sept 29.

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I bought 1 set of Kielh’s skin care products on a Shopee Authentic certified shop, placing the most sales of the month. And when I received the product on August 25th, I immediately reported it to Shopee.”

Ms Ang posted a screenshot of her order of three Kiehl’s products, whose prices are very similar to those listed on the site’s online shop.

However, she pointed out that the products she bought from Shopee had no guide arrows on their bottle tops and, different seals, colours and labels.

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She went on to write “Until today, I still have not been completely solved, they just recalled the product, removed the comment rate on the platform, to cover the seller to continue to sell more fake products to buyers.”

Ms Ang added that for someone who enjoys online shopping, “this is really a bad experience.”

TISG has reached out to Shopee for comments.

Other netizens quickly chimed in about similar experiences with Shopee.

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post Oct 4 2022, 08:10 AM

 
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Did she bring it to Kiehl’s store to verify or she just comparing it with her old bottles?
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post Oct 4 2022, 08:11 AM

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Is this certified or real kielh shop from the Shopee mall? Face wash and stuffs I won’t buy from any certified sellers unless from the shop itself in the Shopee Mall lo.
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post Oct 4 2022, 08:21 AM

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Shopee pretty much care less, we have premium section so people have choice. Authenticity is not guaranteed for item listed in other section - Sau Peh Peh
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Moffie official store... If kielh official store still can understand...

Do ppl really understand the difference between mall and preferred?
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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Oct 4 2022, 08:26 AM)
Moffie official store... If kielh official store still can understand...

Do ppl really understand the difference between mall and preferred?
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she can always go for kiehl official store at shoppe which is more secure
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All my skincare I bought from reseller on shopee. Did my homework and no fakes so far. This brand kiehl a lot of copy one though so I always just avoid
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post Oct 4 2022, 08:33 AM

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post Oct 4 2022, 08:36 AM

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post Oct 4 2022, 08:37 AM

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All products listed by Shopee Mall Sellers must be 100% authentic. Counterfeit products, such as fake or replicated products, are prohibited from being listed in Shopee Mall.

this is what i found in shopee site. i think she is well within her rights if she got it from a seller that is marked shopee mall.
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post Oct 4 2022, 08:54 AM

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QUOTE(theberry @ Oct 4 2022, 08:07 AM)


all of you idiots and crybabies.

refund in 1 month is bad? what? you expect millions of issues to be resolved in a day? getting refunded will take 15-90 days.

what happen when you report counterfeit?

1st shopee remove the product. this is the only action they can do. what else you expect?

2nd if persist, they ban the seller. once seller ban, of course la seller cannot respond to you.
idiots! and what? you expect the sellers to apologize? and you want apology from shopee or if not you will cry and complain in social media? boo hoo hoo.

shopee cant check what shops selling. dats why customer complains are important. you gotta understand they have a lot of shops and millions of customers. and that is why follow up with cases is a must. dont go follow up every seconds every day. if you spend less than 1k follow up once every 2-3 days enuff lah weh.

customer are mostly idiots too. see cheap price straight go blind and click buy.
my experience of more than 20 years of experience in ecommerce, never go for cheap prices.
if original price selling rm100, floor price should be rm90. below that is too good to be true. unless from OFFICIAL SHOP.

online shop ratings. trusted shops. popular shops.
yo idiots! these are all customer's ratings. not from shopee lah.

you might know which 1 ori. but most ppl dont. they nver could afford to buy at shops. so they see cheap prices they buy in shopee. they only know item received and delivery fast. give full ratings. a lot of ratings earned shopee's trusted label and so on.

what? you think shopee go to their house and check is it? doh.gif

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post Oct 4 2022, 09:23 AM

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QUOTE(Ayer @ Oct 4 2022, 08:30 AM)
All my skincare I bought from reseller on shopee. Did my homework and no fakes so far. This brand kiehl a lot of copy one though so I always just avoid
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What kind of homework did you do?

How do you confirm they're not fakes?
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QUOTE(mushigen @ Oct 4 2022, 09:23 AM)
What kind of homework did you do?

How do you confirm they're not fakes?
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As in they do work and I haven't found anything suspicious, like cheap bottle label etc

Before buy it's just standard lah. If too cheap is also a flag. Some resellers also sell trial packs (which aren't meant for sale) and others do rebottling, I don't buy these but if really want cheap² should check these than messing with suspicious listing
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rules of thumb is just buy from official store
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When they introduced preferred, people tot it was genuine but in reality is just like paid ads. Then they introduced preferred plus and guaranteed authentic, but actually who can verify it is authentic?

Even the shopee mall, and also lazada mall, lots of overseas weird names company can enter as mall, and then you realize many are selling same thing just rebadge with different name, then use the name as shopee mall and lazada mall. It is like a loophole as long as i slap a sticker on whatever shit products then register the shop name to become mall. Due to overseas you can't do no shit to them anyway...
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all of you idiots and crybabies.

refund in 1 month is bad? what? you expect millions of issues to be resolved in a day? getting refunded will take 15-90 days.

what happen when you report counterfeit?

1st shopee remove the product. this is the only action they can do. what else you expect?

2nd if persist, they ban the seller. once seller ban, of course la seller cannot respond to you.
idiots! and what? you expect the sellers to apologize? and you want apology from shopee or if not you will cry and complain in social media? boo hoo hoo.

shopee cant check what shops selling. dats why customer complains are important. you gotta understand they have a lot of shops and millions of customers. and that is why follow up with cases is a must. dont go follow up every seconds every day. if you spend less than 1k follow up once every 2-3 days enuff lah weh.

customer are mostly idiots too. see cheap price straight go blind and click buy.
my experience of more than 20 years of experience in ecommerce, never go for cheap prices.
if original price selling rm100, floor price should be rm90. below that is too good to be true. unless from OFFICIAL SHOP.

online shop ratings. trusted shops. popular shops.
yo idiots! these are all customer's ratings. not from shopee lah.

you might know which 1 ori. but most ppl dont. they nver could afford to buy at shops. so they see cheap prices they buy in shopee. they only know item received and delivery fast. give full ratings. a lot of ratings earned shopee's trusted label and so on.

what? you think shopee go to their house and check is it? doh.gif
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Those skincare products marked up a lot when sold by retail. It's not uncommon to find them rm50 cheaper than usual

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QUOTE(Ayer @ Oct 4 2022, 09:28 AM)
As in they do work and I haven't found anything suspicious, like cheap bottle label etc

Before buy it's just standard lah. If too cheap is also a flag. Some resellers also sell trial packs (which aren't meant for sale) and others do rebottling, I don't buy these but if really want cheap² should check these than messing with suspicious listing
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Rebottling is the one that's hard to detect. Some bottles like SK2 only have a little sticker on the bottle cap as proof of unopened bottles.
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QUOTE(mushigen @ Oct 4 2022, 09:33 AM)
Rebottling is the one that's hard to detect. Some bottles like SK2 only have a little sticker on the bottle cap as proof of unopened bottles.
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True, rebottles typically about seller bulk buying and sell in small quantity. Great for people who want test product and not yet convinced to buy the full pack

They are sold in really really tiny volume though, if that also want cheat then seller just pure evil lol
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QUOTE(Ayer @ Oct 4 2022, 09:31 AM)
Those skincare products marked up a lot when sold by retail. It's not uncommon to find them rm50 cheaper than usual
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common, yes. trustable? not at all. to me, anything more than 20% lesser than retail price is suspicious. unless there is clear discounts from official shops like guardian or watsons. if from 'ayer beauty shoope' then forget it lah.

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QUOTE(guysmiley @ Oct 4 2022, 09:41 AM)
common, yes. trustable? not at all. to me, anything more than 20% lesser than retail price is suspicious. unless there is clear discounts from official shops like guardian or watsons. if from 'ayer beauty shoope' then forget it lah.
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What I meant was you can't apply the same standard for every product type. If the product priced 2k then selling for 1k is suspicious. Rm100 product sold at rm50 not really that suspicious . Both 50% off also, but wholly different market

Also good point bringing up Watsons. They carry cosrx items and markup kinda crazy, buy online plenty are cheap and just as legit

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QUOTE(Ayer @ Oct 4 2022, 09:39 AM)
True, rebottles typically about seller bulk buying and sell in small quantity. Great for people who want test product and not yet convinced to buy the full pack

They are sold in really really tiny volume though, if that also want cheat then seller just pure evil lol
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Not necessarily just those small bottles.

Also, some of those "Made in AMDK" products can be found in taobao for a fraction of the price of the already cheap local listings.
How can you be sure those local resellers didn't get their supplies from there?
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all of you idiots and crybabies.

refund in 1 month is bad? what? you expect millions of issues to be resolved in a day? getting refunded will take 15-90 days.

what happen when you report counterfeit?

1st shopee remove the product. this is the only action they can do. what else you expect?

2nd if persist, they ban the seller. once seller ban, of course la seller cannot respond to you.
idiots! and what? you expect the sellers to apologize? and you want apology from shopee or if not you will cry and complain in social media? boo hoo hoo.

shopee cant check what shops selling. dats why customer complains are important. you gotta understand they have a lot of shops and millions of customers. and that is why follow up with cases is a must. dont go follow up every seconds every day. if you spend less than 1k follow up once every 2-3 days enuff lah weh.

customer are mostly idiots too. see cheap price straight go blind and click buy.
my experience of more than 20 years of experience in ecommerce, never go for cheap prices.
if original price selling rm100, floor price should be rm90. below that is too good to be true. unless from OFFICIAL SHOP.

online shop ratings. trusted shops. popular shops.
yo idiots! these are all customer's ratings. not from shopee lah.

you might know which 1 ori. but most ppl dont. they nver could afford to buy at shops. so they see cheap prices they buy in shopee. they only know item received and delivery fast. give full ratings. a lot of ratings earned shopee's trusted label and so on.

what? you think shopee go to their house and check is it? doh.gif
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Shopee can just refund the purchase and claim it from the seller. At least charge the seller some amount or hold it or deposit for arbitration.

Amazon done a great job in this matters.

We need to push and keep these online shopping platform to higher standards and not just give in whenever they take advantage of the consumer.


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QUOTE(mushigen @ Oct 4 2022, 09:47 AM)
Not necessarily just those small bottles.

Also, some of those "Made in AMDK" products can be found in taobao for a fraction of the price of the already cheap local listings.
How can you be sure those local resellers didn't get their supplies from there?
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Not familiar with amdk brands. Those are def high on getting copied by china factories. You can see the pattern bc cuz Korean importers don't mix up their stuff with western ones
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not covering but everyday alot ppl upload product tak kan chceck 1 by 1
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QUOTE(a_dot_el @ Oct 4 2022, 09:50 AM)
We need to push and keep these online shopping platform to higher standards and not just give in whenever they take advantage of the consumer.
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ya right! 'we' need to push. how? like i said. send complains. send feedbacks to them. that is the way.
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ya right! 'we' need to push. how? like i said. send complains. send feedbacks to them. that is the way.
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Keep on complaining and send feedbacks. Do it via the complaint channel and via their public site too.

Make all the awareness you can.

Even something simple like 5 sen can make Zus Coffee respond, fraud issues like this shouldn't be allowed to be swept under the carpet.
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Fark shopee la .....delivery guy ABX didn't even deliver my package then show delivered.

Then i request for refund being rejected ....knn ask me to pay for item i didnt even receive......wtf la shopee ....i request few time all reject what la
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QUOTE(poweredbydiscuz @ Oct 4 2022, 08:10 AM)
Did she bring it to Kiehl’s store to verify or she just comparing it with her old bottles?
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i have a feeling she just compared with her old bottles.
i tend to trust the official shopee shop more than physical stores to be honest because the source of the shopee OS shops is the label itself.

in this lady's case, its likely she is comparing old stock with new stock that has new design and maybe new formula.
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QUOTE(guysmiley @ Oct 4 2022, 09:14 AM)
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all of you idiots and crybabies.

refund in 1 month is bad? what? you expect millions of issues to be resolved in a day? getting refunded will take 15-90 days.

what happen when you report counterfeit?

1st shopee remove the product. this is the only action they can do. what else you expect?

2nd if persist, they ban the seller. once seller ban, of course la seller cannot respond to you.
idiots! and what? you expect the sellers to apologize? and you want apology from shopee or if not you will cry and complain in social media? boo hoo hoo.

shopee cant check what shops selling. dats why customer complains are important. you gotta understand they have a lot of shops and millions of customers. and that is why follow up with cases is a must. dont go follow up every seconds every day. if you spend less than 1k follow up once every 2-3 days enuff lah weh.

customer are mostly idiots too. see cheap price straight go blind and click buy.
my experience of more than 20 years of experience in ecommerce, never go for cheap prices.
if original price selling rm100, floor price should be rm90. below that is too good to be true. unless from OFFICIAL SHOP.

online shop ratings. trusted shops. popular shops.
yo idiots! these are all customer's ratings. not from shopee lah.

you might know which 1 ori. but most ppl dont. they nver could afford to buy at shops. so they see cheap prices they buy in shopee. they only know item received and delivery fast. give full ratings. a lot of ratings earned shopee's trusted label and so on.

what? you think shopee go to their house and check is it? doh.gif
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I just checked the shopee review I left complaining they were reluctant to refund and forced me to pay for the item they didn't send me

The review being remove by Shopee Admin ....knn punya shopee ...ban them

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QUOTE(cofin @ Oct 4 2022, 12:03 PM)
I just checked the shopee review I left complaining they were reluctant to refund and forced me to pay for the item they didn't send me

The review being remove by Shopee Admin ....knn punya shopee ...ban them
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had pretty much the same experience. received a fake item.. still want to side with the seller. after threatening to bring it to tribunal then only the shopee dorno what shit agent agrees to refund.. real ass la this shopee.
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they wont care la. they are making shit tons of money frm these sellers

u see all the fake or illegal products sales, some in the hundreds of thousands sold, still no problem still continue selling and still getting 5 star reviews for fast delivery hahhaha
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QUOTE(kidmad @ Oct 4 2022, 12:06 PM)
had pretty much the same experience. received a fake item.. still want to side with the seller. after threatening to bring it to tribunal then only the shopee dorno what shit agent agrees to refund.. real ass la this shopee.
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I told them to prove to me received of goods , signature or photo ....then they ask me back to take a photo of my house. WTH i am asking for delivery proof and you asking me back for a photo of my house and lot number.

Then i provide and shopee came back to me keep say the delivery guy already delivered my item.

If like that then the delivery guy damn untung weiii as long as can proof ever been to my house take a photo of my house lot number then then cabut no need to pass the item.

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Kielh just go store buy la aiyo. If your relations good with sales rep can ask them give more sample for u also. Very convenient when travelling LOL.
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Kiehls has official store in Shopee, why don’t wanna buy there. Buy from non official store then you ownself take the risk. Simple as that
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Logitech fake products also many la.. still top seller jugak. perfume also banyak fakes, also top seller lol
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Logitech fake products also many la..  still top seller jugak. perfume also banyak fakes, also top seller lol
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QUOTE(cofin @ Oct 4 2022, 12:45 PM)
I told them to prove to me received of goods , signature or photo ....then they ask me back to take a photo of my house. WTH i am asking for delivery proof and you asking me back for a photo of my house and lot number.

Then i provide and shopee came back to me keep say the delivery guy already delivered my item.

If like that then the delivery guy damn untung weiii as long as can proof ever been to my house take a photo of my house lot number then then cabut no need to pass the item.
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exactly that's one of the most retarded request.

another one of mine was item not working after receiving... ask me take a video then after that seller ask to share the cost repay half.. i was like WTF you send item rosak you dare ask for 50%.. crazy man.. these shopee agents really no brain.
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QUOTE(mayhammer @ Oct 4 2022, 08:37 AM)
All products listed by Shopee Mall Sellers must be 100% authentic. Counterfeit products, such as fake or replicated products, are prohibited from being listed in Shopee Mall.

this is what i found in shopee site. i think she is well within her rights if she got it from a seller that is marked shopee mall.
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I agree with this
All Mall Sellers or 'trusted' sellers must sell 100% authentic products even if they are just resellers.

To give another example, just because All IT, or Monodigital, or any electronic mall sellers sells Logitech items doesnt mean they are free to sell fake logitechs just because Logitech.os exist on the platform.
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For brands like Kiehl's always always buy from official stores/Shopee Mall. How hard is that?
If she bought from individual sellers just to jimat abit of money then the fault is completely on her.

Other day I saw La Mer crème sold at RM90 only by China sellers. Still got idiots bought them and claimed in reviews they are original because seller says so. doh.gif
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QUOTE(leftycall9 @ Oct 4 2022, 01:39 PM)
For brands like Kiehl's always always buy from official stores/Shopee Mall. How hard is that?
If she bought from individual sellers just to jimat abit of money then the fault is completely on her.

Other day I saw La Mer crème sold at RM90 only by China sellers. Still got idiots bought them and claimed in reviews they are original because seller says so. doh.gif
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she has the freedom to choose
but the "mall" broke the agreement.
sometimes some product dun have official store.
so the point is, shopee screw up and should punish the "mall" for selling counterfeit stuff
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QUOTE(mayhammer @ Oct 4 2022, 01:51 PM)
she has the freedom to choose
but the "mall" broke the agreement.
sometimes some product dun have official store.
so the point is, shopee screw up and should punish the "mall" for selling counterfeit stuff
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Shopee Authentic certified shop is not Shopee Mall/official stores. I said only bought from those kind of shops not others. Then she surprised she received counterfeit products?

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lol mall or not the fact is people bought counterfeit product from shopee platform

u can say yeah it's buyer stupid or what but there's no deny they allowed counterfeit product selling on their platform and even refuse to compensate buyer when it's proven counterfeit

so it's ok to see shopee/lzd turn into a platform where 8 out of 10 listing is counterfeit? then why need shopee? might as well just use the merchandise official website/store

yes it's shopee own "karma" if one day their platform really became so bad that people stop buying, but before that time 'it's buyer fault' that people got fake product from e-shopping?
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Not official store, don't buy. Simple, right ?
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moffie offical store? that's not keihl's right?
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QUOTE(leftycall9 @ Oct 4 2022, 01:54 PM)
Shopee Authentic certified shop is not Shopee Mall/official stores. I said only bought from those kind of shops not others. Then she surprised she received counterfeit products?
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they are obligated by contract to sell authentic

TStheberry
post Oct 4 2022, 05:56 PM

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QUOTE(mayhammer @ Oct 4 2022, 02:16 PM)
they are obligated by contract to sell authentic
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sell authentic products
sell pirated contents can? whistling.gif
upcars
post Oct 4 2022, 05:58 PM

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The most branded thing I bought from shopee are usually detergents on massive discounted sales from shopee malls and official sellers.
Skylinestar
post Oct 4 2022, 06:03 PM

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QUOTE(Stirmling @ Oct 4 2022, 08:33 AM)
shupee dan scampee
berpisah tiada
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Just look at the sales of fake micro SD cards, ext hdd, etc. Hundreds of thousands of sales. Wtf. People supporting such business. :crazy:
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post Oct 4 2022, 06:10 PM

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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Oct 4 2022, 06:03 PM)
Just look at the sales of fake micro SD cards, ext hdd, etc. Hundreds of thousands of sales. Wtf. People supporting such business. :crazy:
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Bought sd card once from preferred seller. After testing can confirm it was fake. Reported to sopi, they asked to deal with seller. Seller only wanna refund if I give 5 stars rating. Another case I bought eneloop battery from preferred+ seller. From packaging already know it was fake, reported to sopi, managed to get refund. But seller still selling till this day.
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post Oct 4 2022, 09:56 PM

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QUOTE(sanosizo @ Oct 4 2022, 06:10 PM)
Bought sd card once from preferred seller. After testing can confirm it was fake. Reported to sopi, they asked to deal with seller. Seller only wanna refund if I give 5 stars rating. Another case I bought eneloop battery from preferred+ seller. From packaging already know it was fake, reported to sopi, managed to get refund. But seller still selling till this day.
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Duno why they never want to remove the listing..

 

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