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 Can recommend me bike for my usage?, Second hand, budget <rm10,000

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jaycee1
post Oct 3 2022, 12:36 PM

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QUOTE(Sycamore @ Oct 3 2022, 09:19 AM)
Can Dominar D400 masuk kebun? I scare motor berkecai keluar Dari kebun. 🤣

Sorry for asking, I have minimum knowledge on bike.
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QUOTE(Patent @ Oct 3 2022, 09:36 AM)
should be possible but need to change tire I guess
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...ost&p=105083864
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hahahah....my dominar famous di.



yes, can. But again depends on how bad your kebun roads are. Gravel and light trails can. I do sawit trails all the time.


But if you are going to masuk kebun with bad roads, a kapchai is best with a set of corsa cross X tyres or something even more aggresive. The Dominar is a bit weighty for the soft stuff, especially if you are a bit short on legs. being a single 373cc, its powerful enough low in the rpm range to power through moderate climbs. It will do moderate off road, but wont be necessarily happy to do it due to short suspension travel, ground clearance and relatively top heavy.


But if 250 is your limit, maybe you can explore the TRK251 or Versys 250 with semi off road tyres. Maybe keep your fingers crossed that Suzuki will bring in the Vstrom 250. Other options include the KTM 250 Adventure, but that one has a really tall seat height. Those will do light off roading and be marginally ok for highway travel. But those will be over your 10k budget..

About the only bike you can reasonably find under 10K that you can use for the things you list is the Dominar, but that needs B Full.

Also do note, the first gen Dominar is known to have weak fork seals, so frequent off roading or bumpy roads may cause premature leaking. ....well, they all leak eventually. ...... even when not taken off road.


Another option I was exploring previously is a cheap used first gen Duke 200. Those have very good ground clearance due to the exhaust tucked up above the engine and come in relatively lightweight. All you need is a set of semi off road tyres. But bear in mind old KTMs aren't exactly the pinnacle in reliability.

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post Oct 3 2022, 01:07 PM

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QUOTE(mADmAN @ Oct 3 2022, 01:02 PM)
can get z250 for under that budget as wewll n doesnt need b full.

very capable bike including long distance rides. klang valley to thailand has been done by multiple riders already.

for offroad, yeah may need more offroad oriented tires rather street tires. but other than that i think should be fine if the terrain isnt that hardcore
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yes forgot about that one.

But if going off road, maybe the Cheaper z250SL single will be better. Cheaper and lower rpm torque curve.
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post Oct 3 2022, 03:04 PM

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QUOTE(mADmAN @ Oct 3 2022, 02:47 PM)
god no... the SL series are lemons..... avoid at all costs.....

single cylinder 250s doesnt really fare well from what ive noticed other than the old CBR250 and SYM T2
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interesting.

A supervisor of mine has an SL, which he upgraded from his old Fz150. seems problem free. Luck of the pick?

Seems the single would fair better for off road compared to the 12000rpm redline of the twin. But i would prefer the single over the twin for low speed off road use.



I was always under the impression people avoided and bad mouth the SL because for a few K more, they can get the excellent twin. Didn't know there were lemons.

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post Oct 4 2022, 12:40 PM

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QUOTE(Sycamore @ Oct 3 2022, 10:43 PM)
Thanks guys I got Alot recommendations. Will do some research first.

It seems like one of the more important thing for bringing these bikes off road is the Tyre, right?
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Yes, Just mostly tyres. Tyres for 250s are cheap and easy to find. I'm using Corsa crossX fronts and on my 2nd Zeneos turino already.

Both time to change. My rears are nearly on the wearbars after 10k and the fronts are scalloping badly after 20k, which is normal for semi off road tyres.. Both are decent budget tyres from Indonesia.

Try to pick a bike with ABS. But might be difficult to find an older 2nd hand 250 with ABS. That was one of the reason I got the Dominar, it was the cheapest "big" bike with ABS.
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post Oct 5 2022, 10:43 AM

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QUOTE(iambryan1234 @ Oct 4 2022, 11:51 PM)
You're referring to an engine swap, technically 373cc

Dominar and Pulsar uses similar engine covers, so unless you go to PUSPAKOM it'll just look stock.
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Why would anyone bother to swap out engine? Must as well just buy the bigger dominar.

Not worth the risk for a mismatch engine block if anything happens unless you did die also don't want to take the full B license.

 

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