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post Sep 13 2023, 02:58 AM

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QUOTE(sp6068 @ Sep 13 2023, 02:39 AM)
Same story with the 13 and 14. The 14 sales is bad probably why they can't raise the price for new model.
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14 sales bad, yet they raise RM100 base model price for 15/15 Plus on launch lmao
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post Sep 13 2023, 04:50 AM

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Current 2023 lineup pricing in Malaysia (after Apple Event)
iPhone 13 - starts at RM3,299
iPhone 14/14 Plus - starts at RM3,799/RM4,399
iPhone 15/15 Plus - starts at RM4,399/RM4,899
iPhone 15 Pro/Pro Max - starts at RM5,499/RM6,499

6.1″ iPhone 13
iPhone 13 128GB – RM3,299 (down from RM3,699)
iPhone 13 256GB – RM3,799 (down from RM4,199)
iPhone 13 512GB – RM4,799 (down from RM5,199)

6.1″ iPhone 14
iPhone 14 128GB – RM3,799 (down from RM4,199)
iPhone 14 256GB – RM4,299 (down from RM4,699)
iPhone 14 512GB – RM5,299 (down from RM5,699)

6.7″ iPhone 14 Plus
iPhone 14 Plus 128GB – RM4,399 (down from RM4,699)
iPhone 14 Plus 256GB – RM4,899 (down from RM5,199)
iPhone 14 Plus 512GB – RM5,899 (down from RM6,199)

6.1″ iPhone 15
iPhone 15 128GB – RM4,399
iPhone 15 256GB – RM4,899
iPhone 15 512GB – RM5,899

6.7″ iPhone 15 Plus
iPhone 15 Plus 128GB – RM4,899
iPhone 15 Plus 256GB – RM5,399
iPhone 14 Plus 512GB – RM6,399

6.1″ iPhone 15 Pro
iPhone 15 Pro 128GB – RM5,499
iPhone 15 Pro 256GB – RM5,999
iPhone 15 Pro 512GB – RM6,999
iPhone 15 Pro 1TB – RM7,999

6.7″ iPhone 15 Pro Max
iPhone 15 Pro Max 256GB – RM6,499
iPhone 15 Pro Max 512GB – RM7,499
iPhone 15 Pro Max 1TB – RM8,499

iPhone 12 and 13 Mini discontinued

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post Sep 13 2023, 05:04 AM

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Also from the way, they announced that iPhone 15 Pro supported USB 3, yet only USB 2 cable given in box is lmao.

Basically USB 3 cable sold separately.

At this point, it looks like Apple definitely gearing up to remove cable in box starting with iPhone 16.
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post Sep 13 2023, 06:14 AM

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QUOTE(13th @ Sep 13 2023, 05:11 AM)
wait really? i missed that, got ss?
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iPhone 15 Pro Supports USB 3 Speeds, But Only If You Buy an Extra Cable

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Point number 5, the fact they don't explicitly state that USB 3 cable need to be purchased separately, but instead state that USB 3 cable required. Really cekik darah to get money.

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post Sep 13 2023, 06:28 AM

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New Cables launched today alongside iPhones

USB C (USB 2 Cable)
1 metre - RM99 (60W Power Output Supported)
2 metre - RM159 (240W Power Output Supported)

*1 metre USB C cable is included in iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Pro box

USB C (USB 3/Thunderbolt 4 Cable)
1 metre - RM399 (100W Power Output Supported)
1.8 metre - RM649 (100W Power Output Supported)
3 metre - RM799 (100W Power Output Supported)

Cheapest USB 2 Cable sold by Apple is RM99
And cheapest USB 3 Cable sold by Apple is RM399
Thank God, iPhone 15 series no longer have MFi (Made for iPhone) bullshit like Lightning orelse can only buy official from Apple.

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Deleted, duplicate post.

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post Sep 13 2023, 07:21 AM

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QUOTE(TOMEI-R @ Sep 13 2023, 07:15 AM)
Well that isexpected of Apple no? They are not a  gazillion dollar company for nothing. Lol
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Correct, definitely within expectation but still bullsh*t practice lah.
But I gotta applaud Apple for making the USB 2 cable white, and the USB 3/Thunderbolt 4 Cable black colour, that means they have higher chance of selling USB 3 cable more due to black being perceived as more luxurious.
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post Sep 13 2023, 09:10 AM

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QUOTE(Feliex @ Sep 13 2023, 09:04 AM)
Yeah bro
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Camera performance is subjective, because how you want a photo and video to look is very subjective.

But this year in iPhone lineup, iPhone 15 Pro Max has best camera system with its optical 5x zoom, and even iPhone 15 Pro Max can do livestream because currently the 2023 MTV VMAs music awards show in the United States is using iPhone 15 Pro Max to livestream the entire award show on TV.

I find that camera capability already much more shocking than anything from the Android camp.

Though this is only the Pro Max though, the Pro and standard models no comment.

Link to MTV VMAs 2023 broadcast replay is here, though you won't see a lot of comments discussing the iPhone here, they are discussing the award show

https://reddit.com/r/popheads/s/3PNN1F3JfM

I find the livestream broadcast quality of iPhone 15 Pro Max based on the VMAs livestream quality to be very good, definitely something worth boasting about.


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post Sep 13 2023, 09:26 AM

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I wanna praise Apple for one thing, I think this year iPhone 15 Pro Max maybe biggest camera leap for them. Although the event made the camera quite underwhelming, I've seen some output video of the camera (MTV VMAs 2023 livestream braodcast and Professional Music Videos shot on the iPhone 15 Pro Max)

Specifically the music video has great output.

Behind The Scenes:


Final Output of the Shot on iPhone 15 Pro Max Olivia Rodrigo Music Video:


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post Sep 13 2023, 09:35 AM

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QUOTE(ASoulNamedLeo @ Sep 13 2023, 09:26 AM)
I wanna praise Apple for one thing, I think this year iPhone 15 Pro Max maybe biggest camera leap for them. Although the event made the camera quite underwhelming, I've seen some output video of the camera (MTV VMAs 2023 livestream braodcast and Professional Music Videos shot on the iPhone 15 Pro Max)

Specifically the music video has great output.

Behind The Scenes:


Final Output of the Shot on iPhone 15 Pro Max Olivia Rodrigo Music Video:

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They definitely improved something in iPhone 15 Pro Max camera that they didn't properly showcase in the September event, because compared to last year iPhone 14 Pro Max, this year video samples that Apple posted are much better video quality in exposure, HDR and even lighting, maybe it was the video ray tracing capability on iPhone 15 Pro series?

In fact, brave enough to livestream an entire Hollywood Awards Show on iPhone 15 Pro Max Cameras alone is wild, Apple is definitely cooking something in this year's Pro.
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QUOTE(SkyHermit @ Sep 13 2023, 09:44 AM)
What colors do you guys fancy for 15 Pro Max?

For me black or blue only.

Don't like the silver and the new color as it looks old
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Black, black is always Apple's most premium and Professional colour. For example, Macbook Pro get black Apple stickers while Macbook Air get white Apple Stickers.

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post Sep 13 2023, 10:25 AM

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QUOTE(genjo @ Sep 13 2023, 09:45 AM)
for me the camera will be the first factor but as for now, everyone said that the camera is same and not much diff
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Idk why these only seeing spec sheet, but the camera samples of iPhone 15 Pro shows a lot of improvement over 14 Pro despite still being 48MP sensor.

And the standard 15 and 15 Plus is also now 48MP like last year Pro. But from samples, camera quality is not bad, but not show stopping.

My recommendation is
If wanna overall good QoL and not picky about photos and videos (still 9/10 high standard camera quality) , then iPhone 15/15 Plus is enough.
If want the best camera quality overall but not picky about zoom, get iPhone 15 Pro.
If want the best camera quality and also want 5x optical zoom, then iPhone 15 Pro Max.

Btw which phone are you switching from?

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QUOTE(arshad @ Sep 13 2023, 10:15 AM)
Should I upgrade from IPhone 11 or should I wait for Iphone 16? xD
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Battery health of iPhone 11? If higher than 70%, then don't change.

If less than 70%, either change battery or get iPhone 15.
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post Sep 13 2023, 11:09 AM

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QUOTE(Feliex @ Sep 13 2023, 10:54 AM)
In shooting MV, Gaffer is playing important role & last part edit. Only live show can speak the truth, the live show is available right?
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Ya, the 2023 VMAs live broadcast shot on iPhone 15 Pro can be found here
https://twitter.com/i/broadcasts/1nAKErELarVGL

Though the broadcast recording above is pre-show, for the recording of main show only on streaming service Paramount+ or TV reruns.

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QUOTE(tzxsean @ Sep 13 2023, 10:59 AM)
i upgraded to 13 pro from 11 last year

Feels like upgrading again this year to 15 pro cos of camera upgrade compared to 13 pro
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Hardware wise 15 Pro not much different from 14 Pro, but software, they added video ray tracing and all other fancy terms that Apple say can enhance the experience.

Currently, 15 Pro samples much better than the horrendous 14 Pro samples last year imo (taste is subjective).

But the better recommendation is trying it out physically in store instead of just relying on samples.
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QUOTE(arshad @ Sep 13 2023, 11:04 AM)
Still 90% never change  laugh.gif
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Damn in that case, your iPhone 11 can even last until iPhone 17 lmao.

Meanwhile the iPhone 14 Pro battery drain issue got some people already under 90% after a year 😬
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QUOTE(yvliew @ Sep 13 2023, 11:15 AM)
I think you're over hyping this. Camera is the least upgrade ever . Anyway they shot NewJeans ETA mv fully with iphone 14 pro. Not the first time they shoot with iphones.
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I mean the editing is good, but background and foreground separation damn clear for videos, I know it is a music video, tapi the video output intrigued me a lot, almost like iPhone 15 Pro video capability showcase.

But as a poster here mentioned live broadcast probably better indicator of quality, since video still involves a lot of post-editing.

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QUOTE(Feliex @ Sep 13 2023, 11:20 AM)
If this is from the iPhone 15 Pro Max, the lightning receiver is not bad, depth of field is as well.
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Ya it's damn good for a livestream, though I can feel like the quality is not as good as studio camera, but the fact that it can compete with studio camera at all in livestream broadcast is a feat many other smartphone cameras unable to compete wehhhh
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QUOTE(ChiaW3n @ Sep 13 2023, 11:33 AM)
maybe i am very rough user, only charge when the battery left few percents.

iphone 12 pro current battery health 74%
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On life support, but to be fair, for iphone 12 pro jumping to standard 15 already enough, since you are used to 60Hz, standard 15 has better cameras and better performance than 12 Pro already. No major reason to get 15 Pro actually for 12 Pro user.

Now even standard 15 got same matte glass back as Pro models

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QUOTE(GamersFamilia @ Sep 13 2023, 06:20 PM)
from the look at it , i bet they are gunning for the pro max  moneyflies.gif  moneyflies.gif  moneyflies.gif
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The difference is 3x optical zoom (Pro) vs 5x optical zoom (Pro Max) this time.

And standard 15/15 Pro now already have 2x "optical" (using Apple advertised term) zoom. So jumping from 2x to 3x optical not a bug difference compared to 5x

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