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judas
post Sep 23 2022, 01:46 AM

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QUOTE(sunami @ Sep 22 2022, 11:06 AM)
isnt electric comes from fossil fuel?
the whole point using h2 is staying away from fossil fuel dependency
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U have been greenwashed la
Cheapest way to obtain hydrogen from where??

Steam methane reforming, which uses natural gas also.
95% hydrogen in the world is produced using fossil fuel

Tok kok, SAME song
judas
post Sep 23 2022, 01:53 AM

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QUOTE(thewan @ Sep 23 2022, 01:04 AM)
read ur own article properly. those trains are coming in 2027 per mou, they are not "here" yet.

the first hydrogen train in service has already been available and operational in Germany since last month.

also for all those ppl keep trying to compare electric vs hydrogen. its all about cost.

it is way cheaper to make the train use something else and put refueling points along the way, than building an electric line all along the railway line, especially when there is no other reason to run wires in the middle of nowhere. you also have to consider building the infrastructure to power and maintain the electricity across the middle of nowhere over long distances. not only save on infrastructure building costs but also save on maintenance costs. you can also retrofit existing diesel trains to use hydrogen, making it even cheaper.

also yall please read your own wiki articles. as per the wiki, yes currently majority of hydrogen fuel is made by using fossil fuels. But also per that same wiki article, there are alternative methods to make hydrogen that dont use fossil fuels, such as electrolysis powered by cleaner energy. in fact one of the largest hydrogen fuel producer is already using clean energy, also mentioned in THAT SAME WIKI ARTICLE. we just need time to convert the majority of production to clean energy. You think humans can do miracles? overnight the world is saved?

you guys know one miracle i wish i had? I wish i can convert all the shitty ppl here in this /k thread so that they READ THEIR OWN LINKS THOROUGHLY first before posting on the internet and making a fool of themselves.
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To produce hydrogen, the clean way use electrolysis.
Electrolysis uses electricity
So where the electricity come from? Said here clean energy

Then, why not use electric engine directly powered by clean energy? Why waste money in expensive high pressure tanks and only certain place to pump it when u can charge ur car at home if electric?


 

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