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post Sep 24 2022, 08:06 PM

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QUOTE(happymonk @ Sep 23 2022, 12:14 PM)
I just got the AirPods Pro 2 and based on my 20 minutes of listening during transit in the train, walking besides the road and in a quiet room, yes the noise cancellation is more impressive than the 1st gen. For example, I can still hear a little noise from a running air-conditioning on the 1st gen but totally quiet on the 2nd gen. Love the adaptive transparency feature too. The sound is a little better, especially on the bass response where they are tighter and more pronounces. Overall, it is indeed an improvement over the 1st gen.
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Which iphone are you using?

I'm curious because other than iphone 14 and 14 pro which had Bluetooth 5.3, all previous iphones only have bluetooth 5.0(even the 13 pro). Will it affect the sound quality of the AirPods Pro 2 if used on Bluetooth 5.0 vs 5.3?

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post Sep 30 2022, 11:51 AM

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how's the latency if connect to pc via bluetooth 5.2?
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post Oct 7 2022, 10:22 AM

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any mention on when brick and mortar store have it?
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post Oct 12 2022, 03:21 PM

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apple malaysia website changed the airpods pro 2 from "order" to "buy" now

dam i really want to use it at the gym too
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post Oct 15 2022, 03:05 PM

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finally arriveat sabah, bought this from switch/urban republic store at kota kinabalu

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luckily the sound signature fits my taste so well, just the bass abit much because i'm used to flat studio monitoring headphone

edit: after listening a while i find the bass amount is nice

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post Oct 16 2022, 08:21 AM

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QUOTE(ChuanHong @ Oct 16 2022, 07:44 AM)
Sounds quality not that great if compared to WF-1000XM4... But comfortable level is really good, cause surprisingly no need really push airpod pro into ear. Noise cancelling is good. I would say slightly better than 1000xm4.. transparency mode volume is like half volume or lvl10 ambient sound of 1000xm4..

Overall it is a good buy for Apple users compared to earlier airpod pro gen 1..
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which phone did you tried it on? afaik iphones doesn't support LDAC, xm4s sound way better with it on android phones. I have Ultimate Ears UE900 so yeah of course it sounded better than airpods pro 2 but airpods pro 2 sounded so balanced for me (except slightly more bass) that it's my go to now.

I need to try xm4 or xm5 if i got the chance, I tried their headphone xm4 and xm5 and i can't stand the sound at all, the bass is just too much it's hurting my ears. I tried sennheiser wireless headphones and they sounded really good and balanced, the airpods pro 2, their earpod had around the same sound profile as the sennheiser. my beyer also sounded close but with clinical treble, recessed mids and way less bass.

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post Oct 16 2022, 02:56 PM

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QUOTE(miyakochan89 @ Oct 16 2022, 02:37 PM)
How to compare Beyer with Airpods Pro. Beyer is wired headphones ler. Or yours is wireless?
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of course wired. what i meant is even sony xm4 earbuds can support LDAC, very close to lossless already. Even then I tried airpods pro on some audiophile tracks, the bass quality and mid is really good, it just had some rolled off highs and the upper high and high freqs has lesser resolution but still very good, no idea if it was due to the lossy transmission codec.
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post Oct 16 2022, 02:57 PM

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QUOTE(phythia79 @ Oct 16 2022, 07:36 AM)
Has anyone managed to set up their spatial audio? I’m having a difficult time doing it. Any tips?
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mine i just use fixed position. On dolby atmos tracks in apple music it's really cool, very pronounced instrument separation and more 3d instrument positioning. Some audiophiles may hate it because it does reduce some fidelity but in reality, if you listen live or you are the performer on stage, it's not even that clear too LOL. Those who does play in a band or jamming would know.

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post Oct 16 2022, 04:07 PM

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QUOTE(miyakochan89 @ Oct 16 2022, 03:39 PM)
Interesting. What is your source? iPhone? Cause Beyer can barely run with iPhone, not even enough power. Do you use DAC?
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using pc for beyer, of course iphone cannot drive it properly without dacamp
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post Oct 16 2022, 07:33 PM

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what's the default size of the eartips that comes prefitted onto the airpods? Is it medium?
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post Oct 16 2022, 08:27 PM

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QUOTE(miyakochan89 @ Oct 16 2022, 08:14 PM)
Then you need to compare it Apple to Apple. Wired vs wired, wireless vs wireless, via the same source.

Bayer sounds much better than AirPods Pro. Its impossible to say that AirPods Pro sound as similar to Bayer cause that one is a high end wired headphones. The details and depth are like sky and earth.

I have both bayer and AirPods Pro. The difference is not even marginal. It’s entirely different league.

But in the wireless buds world, AirPods Pro is already very good.
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still sound is sound, airpods pro 2's weakness for me is only the high-midrange and highs, for the bass and mids, it's actually as good as high quality wired headphones. For the bass it can show the plucking details on acoustic bass, and for the mids it can separate different background different vocals well enough, some cheaper audiophile headphones can't even do that.

it's not as good as wired hifi headphones and earphones, but it is already pretty good enough for normie musics. I'm not those who chose to listen to audiophile albums to enjoy the better equipment's sound, I prefer pop, rock and metal and those usually doesn't even have good studio recording and mixing quality to take advantage on real audiophile stuffs anyways

and that's the sound for me when using "off" profile on the noise settings

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post Oct 17 2022, 09:08 AM

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QUOTE(miyakochan89 @ Oct 17 2022, 08:38 AM)
I think comparing AirPods Pro to a wired headphone, Bayer nonetheless is extremely far fetched. The driver sizes differences are already huge. And also, you don’t need to have audiophile music source to hear the difference. Even those genre that you just mentioned, the quality is like sky and earth. AirPods Pro bass is not even as punchy as Bayer, I mean just look at the cup of the headphones and the tiny earbuds, and you tell me that the bass is as strong?🤔. Don’t even need to listen to it to know.

The difference in depth or details is way too prominent to say that AirPods Pro is even near that quality. Lol.

AirPods Pro is good in its category, but comparing it with Bayer and claim that AirPods Pro is as good. That’s no no. Bluetooth can never compare with analog. And never as powerful due to the voltage difference itself.
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i forgot to tell you my beyer is one of the bass light ones and very bright. For me even normal sone xm4 and xm5 headphone's bass is too much. Airpods Pro 2 bass has good quality and details, very clear when you listen to acoustic bass not those electronic ones, and yeah it's strong too, if the amount is more than this i wouldn't like to listen as much anymore, because what i care is quality not the quantity.

Weird for you to mention it doesn't have much details but when i tried on some audiophile tracks i can listen to every background noises on it just fine, even some songs like on vienna teng's "nothing without you", alot headphones that doesn't have good treble detail can't even distinguish the background 2 different cymbal sounds but the airpods pro 2 can, on a lossy bluetooth codec.

Background vocal separation on audiophile recorded track also is pretty easy on airpods pro 2, don't say about the bass too, it's strongest point, even head-fi audiophiles agree airpods pro 2's strongest audio feature is it's bass quality. I don't know how much bass you liked this to be but for me it sounded fine, the amount and tonality is what i expected, since i myself plays acoustic drum before too, so i hated earphones or headphones that can't do kick drums, snare, toms, and cymbal's sound well.

lastly it is the instrument separation which is actually really good on airpods pro 2 too. it actually shows the sound of each instrument quite nicely that some of my more expensive wired gear wouldn't be able to and make the sound more flat. I don't really care about depth that much despite that airpods pro 2 have some level of depth but not much.

for the me the only weakness is the highs, they just sounded "lossy" and lacked much detail, it sounded like digital artifacts or if you play pc games like have aliasing, wheres my beyer would play the same highs very clear. To be fair even my ue900 aren't able to play highs super clear too, and that's running on balance armature that should be great in highs.

all of this tested via iphone and lossless apple music tracks (let the phone transcode the bluetooth codec)

i haven't tried on android yet but i do noticed it sounded significantly worse when connected to windows 10.

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post Oct 17 2022, 12:54 PM

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QUOTE(miyakochan89 @ Oct 17 2022, 10:03 AM)
AirPods Pro can’t play lossless quality, regardless of its codec. Unless you have ears that read codec, analog is always better and Wiredheadphones with the right DAC play lossless quality.

AirPods Pro is designed and tuned and to appeal to the mass listening, and everyone loves a nice bass, that’s digitally boosted. And it just sounds great for general public.

You do you, everyone’s preferred sound profile is different. AirPods Pro is certainly good enough for my daily jogging and calls. (It’s good for jogging only after I changed the eartips otherwise the original ones were so bad!) and it certainly delivers nice music quality for general listeners. Otherwise to say that it’s as good as wired headphones, well I beg to differ. And on that part we will have to agree to disagree.

I still love my AirPods Pro though, I actually use them for calls mostly. And it delivers really well. But to enjoy music fully, I still go back to my trusty bayer together DAC.
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man for you it's always lossy lossy lossy
bro you speak like i can't differentiate aac 256kbps vs lossless, i do, i can hear the difference just from using my ue900 alone for thr aac vs lossless. But the fact still remains that by pairing the airpods pro 2 with iphone, even the 256kbps aac sounded pretty farn good and close to being true hifi
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post Oct 17 2022, 03:11 PM

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QUOTE(miyakochan89 @ Oct 17 2022, 02:15 PM)
And for you it’s always what I can hear what I can hear what I can hear. Yeah sure talk is very cheap. I can also tell you that I have laser eyes and can scan your DNA, don’t need fancy machines. True Hifi quality with AirPods Pro? Lol. That’s only for people who can’t tell the differences.

But like I already said, overall listening experience is amazing for AirPods Pro. And the rest we just have to agree to disagree. You do you, talking and talking is so damn cheap.
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so apparently what you can hear is not important, got it

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post Oct 18 2022, 12:45 PM

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QUOTE(Ask_Yip @ Oct 17 2022, 05:43 PM)
anyone experience sounds muffled while camera is turn on?

I am using the default music player.

Or maybe because my old iPhone X not enough ram to process?
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you mean just opening the camera app and sound muffled? Just tested mine and it's fine
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post Oct 19 2022, 11:32 PM

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QUOTE(Ask_Yip @ Oct 18 2022, 02:51 PM)
I open camera and snap picture

So far happened only once to me
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oh, i tried it on mine and volume stays constant

but one time i tried to use fb messenger speech to text feature iinm, the airpods gone into low volume mode and stucked there. Had to restart the iphone to fix.
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post Oct 21 2022, 03:15 PM

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QUOTE(shockk @ Oct 19 2022, 10:40 PM)
What you mentioned about the AirPods Pro 2 sound quality is spot on! 👍🏼

It is seriously something that I have to give credit to Apple for.

I mostly use it with Apple Music now with Dolby Atmos, Spatial Audio and HeadTracking features - and the experience is nothing short of phenomenal. 

Even though it is true that Android devices have better Hi-Fi Bluetooth codecs to pair with the likes of Sony’s range of flagship Bluetooth head/earphones, but for one that is vested in the Apple ecosystem with iPhones, iPads and MacBooks, the AirPods Pro 2 really has no competition in this regard at the moment.
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i mentioned that the sound is kinda dark (very slightly boosted bass amount and rolled off highs)
well turns out it's tuned as default by apple like that. But then i found out the sound became so much better by going to the airpods menu under settings, go to "Accessibility" and the "Audio Accessible Settings". Click "Headphone Accomodations" and do the custom test with audiogram if you have, or by a short sound and music preference test. Mine changed to "Balanced tone" and damnn, it fits my sound signature preference so much now. Now the highs are returned back to me and the sound really kinda balanced. The detail and resolution in the highs is actually really good too for wireless earphone after i tried it with some high revealing tracks. Loving this earphone even more.

you all should try it out, you can then choose the tuning that fits your music library the best, because some music library that is warm or bright, it'll balanced it out well.

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post Oct 21 2022, 03:24 PM

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QUOTE(wong_86 @ Oct 21 2022, 03:20 PM)
People buy airpods pro never care the sound quality, is the apple eco system, seemless connection between apple device, it convenient and easy to use.
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except this time the sound quality is actually good. Isn't it better to have good sounding one vs lousier one
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post Oct 21 2022, 03:35 PM

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QUOTE(wong_86 @ Oct 21 2022, 03:32 PM)
i got 1st generation since its launch in Malaysia, satisfy its sound quality, then i bought the Sony XM4, sound quality even better, but eartips is so so, change a lot eartips, lol
Now i already order one unit, waiting it come  rclxm9.gif
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they do say xm4 sounded better (although in anc and transparency off mode)

though the airpods just very good in many things like the convenience, comfort, anc etc

i didn't even noticed i worn it so long until it warned it of 20% battery left. Was using it on transparency mode without playing music too, so easy to switch back and forth between my pc and iphone.
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post Oct 23 2022, 12:18 PM

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QUOTE(Evirober @ Oct 22 2022, 04:32 PM)
Any recommendations for case? Apparently there are none so far
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I just use airpods pro 1 case, it fits but just no cutout holes for the speaker and lanyard (it has own case lanyard anyways). But doesn't matter to me because the case sound still noticeable.

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