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post Jun 13 2013, 11:14 AM

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QUOTE(lui @ Jun 11 2013, 04:36 PM)
Hi all, got my autogate system installed.
End up i still choose arm type, and i got it from Winson - MAG Wing 303.
But the person install is not from Winson's company, as refer to ths guy name Lo. Winson sub the job to him, and during the installation day Winson just drop by and take a look.
1 feedback on the Wing 303, i think it's quike slow. Even on my 5 foot gate (each side), I dont feel like it's heavy duty enough. So for those who like to have a fast moving gate when open and close, you might not want to consider this.
And the price i got from Winson was RM1200, and he accept check.
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Actually, mine is slow too, Winson said the speed can be increased but too fast also not good, increases wear and tear apparently, so I am happy with current speed as remote can activate the gate from a distance of at least 20 metres if your car tint is smart tag friendly...
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post Jun 13 2013, 01:24 PM

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QUOTE(mpca @ Jun 13 2013, 11:14 AM)
Actually, mine is slow too, Winson said the speed can be increased but too fast also not good, increases wear and tear apparently, so I am happy with current speed as remote can activate the gate from a distance of at least 20 metres if your car tint is smart tag friendly...
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@lui as well

guys can u upload video on how slow it is ? i've placed an order and if really slow will change to a different model from winson

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post Jun 13 2013, 01:34 PM

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Which brand & model yours facing slow?

QUOTE(~Battousai~ @ Jun 13 2013, 01:24 PM)
@lui as well

guys can u upload video on how slow it is ? i've placed an order and if really slow will change to a different model from winson
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QUOTE(petlu28 @ Jun 13 2013, 01:34 PM)
Which brand & model yours facing slow?
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i've placed order for same like yours.. wing 303.. if really slow then i change to other models lo haha
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post Jun 13 2013, 02:33 PM

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i seen a lot owner also choose arm autogate. why?

QUOTE(~Battousai~ @ Jun 13 2013, 01:53 PM)
i've placed order for same like yours.. wing 303.. if really slow then i change to other models lo haha
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post Jun 13 2013, 03:23 PM

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I don't know about other brand, but the OAE Arm speed are control by the circuit board, think is applying difference voltage to control the speed. Mine first 3 second is slow, than fast in between and next 3 sec is slowdown. It can be adjust in the circuit board. Total full swing time is about 11-12 sec.

Too fast of opening and closing may cause issue to the mouting bracket holding the arm because sudden stop and start cause vibration, and higher impact to the stopper / wall. Its all depend how strong your mount to the wall, if mount on Concrete should not be problem, but mount on sand brick chances the vibration can cause bracket to loose.
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post Jun 14 2013, 12:17 PM

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anybody know who can repair Aprimatic swing gate arm?

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post Jun 15 2013, 09:02 AM

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OAE - made in Ipoh, Perak. Cheap and there are time is robust. Recently it came out with circuit board able to have 4 channel remote control whereby you can control single leaf on either side and lamp control. Runs on 12V but gearbox is small size. There is cases where the wall mount break, gate attachment mount tears the metal gate. Circuit board can be tune to run on 18V or 24V and your adjustment is slow speed timer and resistance overload.

About wall mount, using the right size of wall plug that is sufficient to hold the motor driver is good enough.


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post Jun 15 2013, 09:30 AM

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DCMoto - Dated as back in late 90s. Made in Penang. Local product. Leading the pack of autogate system in terms of technology and features wise. Since the launch of GFM series back in 2006. I do admit there is been changes in model generation and batch. The reason behind it is thru R&D and feedback from dealers on how it should be improve and rectify. That's why spare parts and models has been change to improve reliability. GFM is considered the first in local autogate market to manufacture a system called "planetary gear system" consist of 22 gears from small to large size. The ratio is 1:10 and runs on 12-16V max. Wear and tear on gearbox is based on how well you maintain your iron gate rollers and bearing. Do not use grease. Just WD40 is sufficient. If you don't want your autogate to breakdown, do yourself a favor. Lubricate it.

GFM-925W is the current flagship model for DCMoto. Is been improved to use SMD circuit board to reduce power consumption even in standby mode with a relay to cut off AC power during sleep mode, relying on your backup battery which helps to discharge your battery rather than just charging it. It comes with fuzzy logic pre-program 3 Speed system to avoid the gate moving furiously. What you experience is smooth movement. 1st Speed Fast, 2nd speed medium, 3rd speed cushion mode. All is done by first start-up auto calibration mode.

It's the first model to come up with 10-channel remote control and WIRELESS KEYPAD for indoor house. FYI, DCmoto is the first to release a 2 wire keypad back in 2008. Ordinary autogate only provide PRESS or PRESS BELL switch. Those are old school. A keypad allows you to have more control and feature from your autogate system. Such as operating single leaf on either side, LOCK function which disable autogate system (child lock), operate your Lamp, setting auto-close & alarm.

Back in GFM 925W release the keypad in WIRELESS type. First to do so, it allows you to install the keypad where you want it to be positioned. Remember is wireless, runs on battery. So you have the freedom where to install it.

Extra provided accessories is the small electronic siren whereby you can trigger a PANIC mode. A good feature to scare thief off.

Noise level, bearable. Any mechanical movement with motor is there is sound.

Anyway this is just a review of stuff. Not to be BIAS about. I'm just sharing.

Any inquires do post here and I'll try to assist you.
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post Jun 15 2013, 09:57 AM

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QUOTE(cheeshion @ Mar 27 2013, 06:59 PM)
Anyone is using UNIGATE system here? It is pricey, but seems very well designed and safe too. What say you?
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Unigate is using DCMOTO GFM905 system. biggrin.gif
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I seen market a bit hard to get this product. Each time I mention with contractor they didn't get this product.

QUOTE(jimmylim85 @ Jun 15 2013, 09:30 AM)
DCMoto - Dated as back in late 90s. Made in Penang. Local product. Leading the pack of autogate system in terms of technology and features wise. Since the launch of GFM series back in 2006. I do admit there is been changes in model generation and batch. The reason behind it is thru R&D and feedback from dealers on how it should be improve and rectify. That's why spare parts and models has been change to improve reliability. GFM is considered the first in local autogate market to manufacture a system called "planetary gear system" consist of 22 gears from small to large size. The ratio is 1:10 and runs on 12-16V max. Wear and tear on gearbox is based on how well you maintain your iron gate rollers and bearing. Do not use grease. Just WD40 is sufficient. If you don't want your autogate to breakdown, do yourself a favor. Lubricate it.

GFM-925W is the current flagship model for DCMoto. Is been improved to use SMD circuit board to reduce power consumption even in standby mode with a relay to cut off AC power during sleep mode, relying on your backup battery which helps to discharge your battery rather than just charging it. It comes with fuzzy logic pre-program 3 Speed system to avoid the gate moving furiously. What you experience is smooth movement. 1st Speed Fast, 2nd speed medium, 3rd speed cushion mode. All is done by first start-up auto calibration mode.

It's the first model to come up with 10-channel remote control and WIRELESS KEYPAD for indoor house. FYI, DCmoto is the first to release a 2 wire keypad back in 2008. Ordinary autogate only provide PRESS or PRESS BELL switch. Those are old school. A keypad allows you to have more control and feature from your autogate system. Such as operating single leaf on either side, LOCK function which disable autogate system (child lock), operate your Lamp, setting auto-close & alarm.

Back in GFM 925W release the keypad in WIRELESS type. First to do so, it allows you to install the keypad where you want it to be positioned. Remember is wireless, runs on battery. So you have the freedom where to install it.

Extra provided accessories is the small electronic siren whereby you can trigger a PANIC mode. A good feature to scare thief off.

Noise level, bearable. Any mechanical movement with motor is there is sound.
Anyway this is just a review of stuff. Not to be BIAS about. I'm just sharing.

Any inquires do post here and I'll try to assist you.
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post Jun 15 2013, 10:03 AM

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to be frank, every installer wants a product is cheap and high profit. Who doesn't want that? Even contractors want a share of it.

DCMoto somehow is pricier than the rest. And it's also blame on due to previous generation having problem with noise and gearing. Somehow they manage to counter the problem thru revision and upgrades.

The best part of dcmoto GFM series is the components are modular whereby service parts are easy to be replace. I've customer using it since the first gen back in early 2007 till today still in tip top. Internal motor haven't replace other than gearing being worn off. All parts are replaceable. Compared with OAE is arm to arm replacement. Too much hassle for arm system to be replace.
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Thanks your advise. Are you DC Moto supplier?

QUOTE(jimmylim85 @ Jun 15 2013, 10:03 AM)
to be frank, every installer wants a product is cheap and high profit. Who doesn't want that? Even contractors want a share of it.

DCMoto somehow is pricier than the rest. And it's also blame on due to previous generation having problem with noise and gearing. Somehow they manage to counter the problem thru revision and upgrades.

The best part of dcmoto GFM series is the components are modular whereby service parts are easy to be replace. I've customer using it since the first gen back in early 2007 till today still in tip top. Internal motor haven't replace other than gearing being worn off. All parts are replaceable. Compared with OAE is arm to arm replacement. Too much hassle for arm system to be replace.
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I'm an installer. Been in this business since 2001.

In here I'm just advising and given tips on proper choice.

That's all.
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jimmylim85, what is the average market price for folding autogate abt 13 ft wide?i signed up with UNIgate at11k+,did I get ripped off?
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QUOTE(~Curious~ @ Jun 15 2013, 02:47 PM)
jimmylim85, what is the average market price for folding autogate abt 13 ft wide?i signed up with UNIgate at11k+,did I get ripped off?
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Wow.

13' wrought iron steel gate with 1.6mm thickness with powder coating is roughly around rm 2k to rm 3k

Unigate is using dcmoto GFM 905. Now you can get DCMoto GFM 925 for around rm 1.5k wiring is around rm 500-800

You're paying roughly rm 5500 half the price of unigate.

Unigate beauty is just without the pipe underneath for guidance. But middle of the gate has a stopper. If that stopper breaks then the middle fold will opens.

Conventional folding gate has a pipe underneath for guidance. Opt for stainless steel pipe which you just have to pay extra rm 200++. Long lasting and silent operation due to smoothness of stainless steel pipe. Best part. RUST FREE!
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QUOTE(~Curious~ @ Jun 15 2013, 02:47 PM)
what is the average market price for folding autogate abt 13 ft wide?i signed up with UNIgate at11k+,did I get ripped off?
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which unigate design n material r u getting?? full SS? premium?? alu?

the average gate with the same length the price can vary alot with design, material, coating, n workmanship bro....
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QUOTE(jimmylim85 @ Jun 15 2013, 02:53 PM)
Wow.

13' wrought iron steel gate with 1.6mm thickness with powder coating is roughly around rm 2k to rm 3k

Unigate is using dcmoto GFM 905. Now you can get DCMoto GFM 925 for around rm 1.5k wiring is around rm 500-800

You're paying roughly rm 5500 half the price of unigate.

Unigate beauty is just without the pipe underneath for guidance. But middle of the gate has a stopper. If that stopper breaks then the middle fold will opens.

Conventional folding gate has a pipe underneath for guidance. Opt for stainless steel pipe which you just have to pay extra rm 200++. Long lasting and silent operation due to smoothness of stainless steel pipe. Best part. RUST FREE!
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omg =( no can do..mom too enamoured by it liao..she sed the arm is quite strong so less chances of intruders prying the folding gate.n oso coz track system will have the wheels alwiz coming out of d track.then she also likes that they got sensor thing.

QUOTE(H2D @ Jun 15 2013, 03:05 PM)
which unigate design n material r u getting?? full SS? premium?? alu?

the average gate with the same length the price can vary alot with design, material, coating, n workmanship bro....
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their latest design,juz out yesterday..at thei expo booth in midvalley...wrought iron with powder coat if im not wrong.

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