if it is the equipment that matters, then how can some people get good pictures with even pro-sumer camera ?

if it's the skill then why are there so many people spending money on DSLR? fast f2.8 lenses ? VR/IS lenses ?

Luck ? no comment

Photoshop? camera phone will do, don't bother even getting a DSLR

p/s: the intention of this thread is to share knowledge on what makes a good photo...

This post has been edited by vincent_audio: Oct 2 2007, 04:31 PM

this is not really true, here come the contraversial thing. PnS is very good at macro shot, which cannot be done by most of the kitlens on DSLR. No matter how skillful u r, it's a no no !

cool down guys, it's all about sharing knowledge, no one is absolute right and no one is wrong here

put things in real life situation, just to further confuse u guys

1) pro + pns - to capture fast motion of an F1 car in a high speed corner... before the pns manage to focus, the F1 car is gone ?

2) pro + pns/DSLR kitlens - how to shoot the pretty gal staying in the other block (which is reachable only by a 600mm)... maximum zoom also u'll see her as small as an ant... don't tell me spiderman/superman help u ok...

3) pro + handphone camera - for event in low light. Ask everyone to freeze for 1 sec ? hehehe

where does the skill come in the situation above ?

i would say the art of producing a good photo. Don't want to argue on what is a good photo. Not the scope of this discussion or it will never end. That is another story all together

Let it be digital in this case, film photography can be a totally different journey esp. developing photo Don't want to go there, will complicate things

Is it the skill ? the equipment ? the post processing ? luck ? or everything ?

The poll results seems to be Everything with priority on skill.

erm... now should we add in two more... besides skill, the creativity and the experience ?

again i have to emphasize, it's not about who is wrong or who is right.

In my opinion, the basic skill need to be there. Not an idiot who know how to hit the shutter button only!

He who is skilled can take a good photo limited by the equipment he is holding.

Someone who is skilled will need the right equipment to get his job done cause he knows what to do with it and what he is expecting.

he who is NOT skilled by chance, by luck or by photoshop can still take good photo with or without the right equipment.

there are alot of ways to improve on the skill. Having good creativity does improve the overall skill of someone.

There no short cut of learning how to get better photos but snap snap & snap. Experience come into play to complement the skill as you will know wat to expect and how you can react to it.

if you take photography as a hobby, it depends on oneself how hard you want to learn, or just enjoy shooting

This post has been edited by vincent_audio: Oct 4 2007, 06:56 PM