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TSgedebe
post Aug 16 2022, 12:09 AM, updated 4y ago

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I am using Bardahl FS engine oil 5w/40 and along the way, the engine oil star decreasing, almost more than half of the dip stick mark.
Foreman say that the oil might not be suitable and I have to use 10w/40 instead. Any comment?
TSgedebe
post Aug 16 2022, 12:21 AM

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QUOTE(Asus W3V @ Aug 16 2022, 12:13 AM)
bro mine nearing 15 years. still no oil consumption and using 5w30 till now.
could it be other problem?
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no engine oil leak, what could be the problem?
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post Aug 16 2022, 12:56 AM

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QUOTE(Asus W3V @ Aug 16 2022, 12:29 AM)
bro better go and do proper diagnostic.

https://www.firestonecompleteautocare.com/b...-without-leaks/ , google may not be accurate.
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QUOTE(dares @ Aug 16 2022, 12:38 AM)
You can start with finding another better mechanic. What this one spew was utter bullshit.

- Rev your engine and see if there is blue smoke coming out of your exhaust.
- Check your coolant if there is any oil mixed in it.
- Check for oil stains around your engine, especially around the valve cover gasket and cylinder head gasket.
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sigh! This sound serious! Although i found this to sound like my foreman form the above link "For newer engines that use low-viscosity oil, such as 5W-20, even small amounts of wear can lead to oil entering this chamber"

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post Aug 16 2022, 12:29 PM

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QUOTE(Thrust @ Aug 16 2022, 09:22 AM)
Most likely you changed your oil always a little too late and have clogged up the piston ring's oil flow channel. Thus, your piston rings are fried. Most likely a top overhaul to replace new piston rings and seals are needed.

Toyota engines are prone to this issue. Change your oil early and don't stick to the 10k km for FS.
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yes indeed, i always service my car late some even near to 20k, is a top overhaul involve a lot of works and costly?

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post Aug 16 2022, 02:19 PM

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QUOTE(Thrust @ Aug 16 2022, 01:58 PM)
Those days, a top overhaul might cost around rm1.5k.

Now it may cost more due to inflation. Top overhaul is fairly easy as you only need to remove the engine head and replace worn parts at the top engine area.
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rm1.5k is already very expensive to me, does it includes part?
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post Aug 16 2022, 02:30 PM

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QUOTE(Thrust @ Aug 16 2022, 02:23 PM)
Suggest you to get direct quotation from a few workshops to better guage the overall price + parts.

This is the consequences of not taking car of the car. The repair amount needed will be huge.
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i din know missing servicing can caused so much damage, even a Proton if you delay servicing won't!

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post Aug 17 2022, 10:32 AM

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QUOTE(Balanced @ Aug 16 2022, 06:44 PM)
Dear ts, u prolong to 20k for oil change really messed up your engine. Whether the damage is already too much or not we do not know unless we test it.

If u dont want to spend any more money on it..u can put a bandage... Everytime pour in lucas oil stabilizer into your engine during new oil change.

Follow below steps if u want to save money + help your engine.
1. Go mechanic and do dry compression test for all your cylinders are good. If still good, proceed to step 2. If no good, u will have to do full engine overhaul because your cylinder walls already almost certain full of deep scratches and grooves. Full overhaul for damage like this includes rebore cylinder walls and putting in bigger newer pistons. Rm5k and above easily.

2. Take boroscope and look down into cylinder walls. If no deep scratchs on cylinder walls, proceed step 3

3. Buy engine flush or cleaners like marvel mystery oil, lucas complete engine treatment, etc. It is a aggresive cleaner. Follow the instructions. Not 100% but hopefully this will slowly clear the gunk around your pistons and free up all your rings and also oil passages that has been blocked. If oil consumption reduced, u can try again. If no reduce, go step 4.

4. Open up and pour marvel mystery oil directly into pistons through spark plug passage way. Wait few hours, manually turn the engine a bit, then pour again and wait another few hours. This way is very very aggresive in case step 3 does not work. See youtube to get what im saying or find a mechanic to help you.
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thanks for all those tips!

QUOTE(Quang1819 @ Aug 16 2022, 08:57 PM)
... you mean sometimes 20k KM only change engine oil?
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sometimes i do service very late but my honda city which is older and with the same practise does not has this problem

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post Aug 23 2022, 12:06 AM

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to check whether there is a engine oil consuming problem, can i just ask foreman to check on the piston
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post Aug 29 2022, 02:10 PM

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QUOTE(jaesern @ Aug 29 2022, 12:49 AM)
my current situation: 16 years old with 250k+ km and 13 years old with 440k+ km. both on 5w30 full syn, both engine is never done any overhaul before, both engine rev to before rev cut says few times in a week at least, oil consumption based on top up around on 5k km is between 0.5~1L.

my suggestions: check engine inside out and/or change foreman.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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what is "rev to before rev cut"?

 

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