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post Aug 15 2022, 10:12 PM

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BOEHLY got check AUBA wanna come or not ? dont later be a joke like MANU kena snub.

TT really need to tell our player all cut botak and start pulling other player hair already brows.gif brows.gif brows.gif

Skysport : Romero won't be punished for Cucurella offence | Hair-pulling not in rules

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post Aug 22 2022, 06:37 PM

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I think the lost against LEEDS, MENDY definitely have to take the bigger blame, after conceding like that, the player start kelam kabut. Next will be TT, if we keep saying the player is not TT player then might as well say TT is not a good coach ? LEEDS with less expensive player able to outplay us, this say something about their coach.

Is not just about last match, even towards the end of last season i notice all our frontline run like headless chicken, keep trying to play fast pace and try to dribble the ball forward and lose it. MOUNT and KAI have the ability, they are all rounder, can create, can score, can dribble. Unlike PULISIC, just dribbling but not really a HAZARD and ZIYECH too predictable with his left foot. To me, MOUNT and KAI just lack coaching, given them to PEP, i am pretty sure both of them can play like STERLING calm with the ball. When STERLING first join MANC is also dribbling like headless chicken.

GALLAGHER as pivot is also big mistake, like those forward player when he get the ball all he know to do is try to dribble ball forward, when he lose it, JORG will not able to cover with his slow speed. He dont have the experience to play there, losing possession at that position during transition immediately put a lot of risk and pressure to the CB. RLC would have been the better choice.

Then playing JAMES in CB is a waste of talent, he provide much more threat in RWB role.

Of course i acknowledge that the team is missing a CF, but this aint football manager, cant buy all you want. Good thing is TT have BOEHLY backing, if TT think CR7 is not what he want then we dont sign. I dont fancy CR7 either, i strongly believe he would not do good for squad harmony, i can imagine his demand and toxic when he dont get to start in CL football and the team is not winning.

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post Aug 24 2022, 03:45 PM

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QUOTE(wintzen @ Aug 24 2022, 11:40 AM)
This is good news, maybe can't register on time and we can signed him for free?
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QUOTE(GravityFi3ld @ Aug 24 2022, 02:10 PM)
That's a good one  laugh.gif
If a player is not registered, then does the player become a Free Agent?  confused.gif  hmm.gif
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nop, not a free agent, he is already a BARCA player, if cannot register means he have to be loan out.
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post Sep 4 2022, 01:10 AM

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QUOTE(fzrnhkm @ Sep 4 2022, 12:21 AM)
Some match points..

- Fofana is good, but coordination abit unsync at times.. on WH goal, he actually fell on top of mendy

- RLC > Jorginho, only if RLC could make his pass faster it would be better..

- Chilwell > Cucurella, maybe can slowly give chilly his starting place back and sub for cucu at 60-70th minute for cucu to gel with the squad

- Broja brings threats, he slowly shows his bullish side.. and we attack better with him on the field.. hope to see a two-striker formation with auba

- James a tad bit distracted after that brawl with anthony.. can see him lost focus dy, then that backpass to mendy is the final straw.. hope he'll learn to be more mature from this match

- Gallagher played good, got a chance as well but too slow in decision making.. with more minutes i believe he'll score for us

- Despite having KK, Silva and Fofana at the back, our setpiece defending is something to be questioned about.. so horrible.. this is something tukul needs to drill the squad about.. if not for VAR to save our ass, we'd end the match with a point

All in all, a lucky three points i guess
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Sorry cant agree on GALLAGHER, he basically doing nothing, he does not provide enuff movement on the pitch, slow in providing passing option and when he receive the ball he just cycle the pass like a JORGINHO. He was suppose to be the front 3 playing near the opponent box but he sit closer to mid playing like KOVA RLC role cycling passes, no penetration run behind defender. I would say he not ready to be starting 11, he need more time to familiar with the formation with the role he suppose to play.

The different is clear when CHIWELL, MOUNT, KAI came in, because they start making those off the ball run. Like pressing, those off the ball movement need to be done by multiple player together to be effective.
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post Sep 5 2022, 10:22 AM

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QUOTE(Shanks747 @ Sep 4 2022, 02:33 AM)
Conor Gallgher is not chelsea level LOL same goes for Ruben ......they both should not be starting in our team.....we struggling !!!
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I think RLC is ok playing at the mid, he have good touch, he have body strength, he can dribble, he can drive the ball forward. Given more start and game time on the position, he can be another KOVA. No RWB pls.


QUOTE(gaeria84 @ Sep 4 2022, 04:55 PM)
Kasi chan, cos gallagher was a gamechanger in CP team, this is just an issue of new team, new environment
Also most of the time, can see the tactics don't suit his playstyle at all
Tukul also need to find the right setup to make the most out of gallagher

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Kepa shud start over mendy

Mendy too complacent and getting shitter with every match
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The video sum up pretty nicely, his natural position is AMC. He cant play as the 2 CM in 3-4-3 yet, he did start one game there pair with JORG and losing ball at that position is deadly. He cant play the front 3 yet, as seen on last match he dont attack the box much either. He can only play AMC in a 4-3-3. I said yet, because he still can learn but is too early to start him in 3-4-3, but i like to see what he can do as an AMC in a 4-3-3.

TT did try 4-3-3 and the attacking looks good, but defend very shaky and kelam kabut. I think we dont have DM that allow us to play 4-3-3 properly, a DM that will sit infront 2 CB and cover LB RB when they go forward. KANTE cant play that role.

QUOTE(zoidx_chung @ Sep 4 2022, 06:53 PM)
He not sacked, but quit for higher role in other place
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Been put on gardening leave most likely leave on bad term.
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post Sep 7 2022, 01:44 AM

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so easy to defend against CHE, all our player stay in own position, opponent just stay in shape to defend. TT dont know there is a tactic call overload ? come on overload one side and free CHILWELL/JAMES for a quick switch. And pass the ball with more power, quicker.

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post Sep 7 2022, 01:14 PM

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QUOTE(wintzen @ Sep 7 2022, 10:17 AM)
What you guys think about Auba last night? I feel there's 2-3 chances he should've just gone for goal, but he opt to pass the ball to others to strike.
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AUBA play OK for a first start. He press well and make those striker attacking movement that we have been missing for so long.

Like all our other forward, a bit lacking confident in the box. Hope it will get better once he start scoring.

After GALLAGHER, another testing by TT putting MOUNT in CM role, he look so clueless. Come on just let RLC play there.

Else play the 433, FORFANA and K2 does not seem comfortable yet in back 3 either, maybe coming new from previous back 4 setup.

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post Sep 7 2022, 06:45 PM

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QUOTE(zoidx_chung @ Sep 7 2022, 05:48 PM)
ok, read somewhere,
1. dressing room problem again
2. tuchel wanna focus on football, boehly want him take part in transfer/businees
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TT should have understand the involvement of last transfer windows is unavoidable because of old board leaving. That is also a chance given by BOEHLY to fully back what he want. Is not like he was ask to go nego the transfer, i believe is more to picking the transfer target that he want out of the list presented. U want to play football your way but u dont want to take part in transfer, then when given the player selected by board, u dunno how to use them. I believe the temper did flare between TT and BOEHLY due to the summer transfer. I am totally on side BOEHLY on this, manager are responsible for the result on the pitch, u pick your player and if result is not up to expectation, u take the responsibility and the sack.

Last few week i have mention TT seem like lost of idea already when all he do at post match is just complaining of his player, guess BOEHLY see it that way too.

Our new manager better be someone that is ready to win with the current squad, dont come in and talk philosophy, start playing winning football and tweak your squad slowly to your play style during transfer windows.

I dont really fancy POCH, but if he help train a KANE from CHE squad drool.gif drool.gif drool.gif ZIDANE ? overated, at RM he have an auto pilot squad, he might have the charisma but i dont think he have sufficient tactical knowledge, when team started losing, team morale low, charisma will not help much by then.

Will BOEHLY use his moneyball statistic and hired someone less known like POTTER ? i dont mind actually, but will he able to hold the dressing room big name ? like ARTETA handle OZIL/AUBA ? or like OLE keep playing JOGBA/FRIDGE ?

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post Sep 8 2022, 07:27 PM

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QUOTE(gaeria84 @ Sep 8 2022, 03:06 PM)
Circus continues, also made this move also at the worst possible time, when no better alternatives are available

Managers come and go, that's a known fact. But I think fans wouldn't complain if we for whatever reason sack tukul, but bring in someone prolific like ancelotti

Remember that time when tottenham wanted to sign conte, then nvm, sign nuno from wolves instead cos promising

End up toppest kek, sack nuno and then pursue conte again

Haiz, time will tell la
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Likely BOEHLY already plotting this for a while. POTTER is definitely identified as first choice in advance with release clause and manager interest surveyed. Seeing how fast he get the manager and not linking to others, this is the man he want. Last game is just the excuse he need to sack TT.

Still have to thx TT for the CL CWC and during difficult time last season we still get into 2 domestic cup final. But team start to deteorite near end of the season but luckily still manage top4.

But TT start showing problem, player run like headless chicken, player play out of position, ppl saying MOUNT KAI WERNER is shit but to me they have quality but did not coach properly. Last thing i really don't like is he start going post match and just keep complaining about the player. Most of the time when manager start doing that means he run out of idea in the dressing room.

I didnt expect the sack because those new signing definitely need give time to integrate but when the manager run out of idea and just go press con and complain, that does not give confidence.

POTTER definitely require a lot of hardwork, time and backing by BOEHLY. U can be a good coach but managing big club is a different thing, those big player need to be handled well (remember AvB ?) and ur opponent in the league will no longer setup as playing against BRIGHTON. Those space his team used to get will no longer there, does he have the tactical to break those tight compact defense ?

Hiring POTTER is something fresh for CHE instead of proven manager. I am excited to see BOEHLY moneyball approach will work or not.
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QUOTE(Shanks747 @ Sep 10 2022, 07:46 AM)
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Remember this is Todd Boehly Club now, he invest 4.5 billion into it...Todd did not hire tuchel that was the previous regime so he has no attachment to tuchel even tho he won us trophies...Chelsea were never wining the EPL title this season or next, and Man city is monopoly-ing the league so Todd is planning long term success...might as well bring in Potter in now and start the process, a fresh start to Todd Boehly Era...since Tuchel was the last remaining piece of Roman Era.
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ya the long term contract given for POTTER show that he is hand pick by BOEHLY and he clearly have his idea how he want to run the club by clearing all the old regime. But there is no guarantee in football, if team is fighting relegation or total dressing room breakdown POTTER will still get the sack. In the end BOEHLY will still need to answer to the investor behind him.

So far i see BOEHLY did a good job and he back the manager. TT want LUKAKU out and he is gone, we sign the needed CB, we sign TT target AUBA and we get rid of a lot loan army. Even if report is true that BOEHLY wanted CR7 but he never force it into TT. His decision to sack TT whether is right or wrong, we will have to see in the future. But base on report, TT is not the type of manager he is looking for, he wanted someone that will involve more and have vision for the club. Someone that would give input in first team, academy, transfer, instead of like TT just want to coach the given first team.

Of course POTTER will only handle first team but key thing is every department in the club is on same vision. I believe PEP is doing the same for MANC, the football are run base on PEP vision. The academy is training his style of football, same as BARCA start their tiki taka from academy and it make it easier to integrate to first team. When BARCA look for new manager, they look for someone that can make use of their existing setup instead of some high profile manager that does not suit their style.
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QUOTE(Shanks747 @ Sep 10 2022, 08:09 PM)
You comparing lampard to potter LOL......1 is novice and 1 has been in management for 15 odd year's.....you forgetting Pep is manage a long time now with Man city

I did not see Lampard bring any team in tier 4 in any league to the top division, he got the Chelsea job based on name not merit, he did nothing in derby...now he at everton and doing a poor job there, he cant manage.

Graham Potter is not your typical english manager....he learned his trade overseas. He eventually was going to get a big job if Chelsea didnt go for him.

Man utd didnt go for him because they wanted a more experience manager thats all.

Besides Man city, the next team that play entertaining football was Brighton.

Klopp never played entertaining football, he's is more terrorism football....hence why you can see his record in finals 33%....only won 1 out of 3 UCL final when up against a good footballing team like Real Madrid. League also won 1 league in 7 years....he was never that elite of a manager....its just hype cause he at liverpool. This season they struggling and thier cycle is over arldy. Klopp style cant beat total football style.

SAF also never played entertaining football, 4-4-2.....flying wingers and crossing in to the box, fast counter attacks. same with fergeson also his style cant beat total football style.
27 years SAF manage man utd only won 2 UCL and that 2 final were fine margin only Bayern munich hit the post few times and they score 2 injury time winner and against Chelsea JT missed the last kick penalty so in context he could have not won 2 UCL finals in 27 years ....most of the time in europe his team gets beat by lesser teams like Galatasaray ,Bay. Leverkusen , Monaco , Bor. Dortmund , Porto how the hell man utd losing to weaker teams in the UCL if fergeson was as they said the GOat manager lol
....because style of football matters....The league he dominated fair play to him excellent of him getting 13 epl titles doing a Bayern Munich  but he had next to no competition during most of his time, he buy all the top players from each club that time now time are different arldy

Now its the Super Premier league, more top class managers, with many good players. Its harder to win the league now then last time.
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Bro this is just too much confident, u cant put POTTER in the same bracket of KLOPP, PEP, SAF because these are the guys that have won the trophy. Until POTTER actually won something, all those entertaining football are just talk. I am excited to see what POTTER can do with CHE but definitely will not over sell him.

KLOPP strength is definitely his man management skill, and he did revive LIV and now challenging in all front, getting into UCL final itself means LIV is the top 2 team in europe of that season. If u just want to count UCL win then ZIDANE must be the best coaches winning 3 in a row and just behind ANCELOTTI. Even PEP still yet to win it with MANC.

You cant compare era and discredit SAF this way. This is just like discredit PELE, MARADONA and all the other great player and manager of what they have achieve in their era. SAF have never been known for his football style, what great about him is able to rebuild MANU again and again and continue winning, not much manager can do that, even if given the chance to do that. Buying top player does not guarantee wining and u forget the class of 92 that he win with boys too. If i am not wrong SAF still hold the manager that won the most trophy in major league. Even you mention BAYERN one team league, or team like BARCA, RM, JUVE they dont have manager that can rebuild and keep winning like SAF.

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post Sep 10 2022, 11:46 PM

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QUOTE(gaeria84 @ Sep 10 2022, 11:36 PM)
Too soon to put all your chips on potter

Next 5 games results should already give you an idea

After a season, you should already have a full picture whether he's the right person for the job or not

For me, finish outside top 4 is already fail
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Too soon to discredit/judge him too, havent even manage 1 game. All top manager start from somewhere, PEP taking over BARCA from a BARCA B team coach, top flight experience NONE laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Let just get behind POTTER first and u can bombard him later if he fail big times thumbsup.gif thumbsup.gif thumbsup.gif
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QUOTE(gaeria84 @ Sep 11 2022, 01:09 AM)


Not even 3 months after takeover, this new board already reach the levels of mengyu's school of how to make bad decisions for your football club
- Sack marina & cech and people who understands chelsea dna
- Ask tuchel use 4-4-3 formation
- Fight with tuchel because wanna sign ronaldo, anthony gordon, harry maguire
- Back the manager and get the targets he wants to the tune of 300m, then sack him the week after
- Sign another manager who's a downgrade

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oh so MARINA and CECH is CHE DNA now ? guess who is the one championing them to be sack when they are still here ? short term memory is really short indeed, EMENALO was the scapegoat before he left but was bring back to praise because of old board. Guess BOEHLY is getting the same treatment so soon laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
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QUOTE(dennis008 @ Sep 12 2022, 11:51 AM)
why your face still tuchel? haha
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Coz POTTER havent yet to do any pre post match press con for him to curi screenshot hehehe
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QUOTE(Shanks747 @ Sep 12 2022, 03:43 PM)
sack in the everton tunnel LOL....ancelotti hurt more because thats the last time I really enjoy watching chelsea play good football.

I dont believe you guys have enjoyed watching Chelsea play in a long time. IF you remember ancelotti time at chelsea, football was damn nice to watched.

Under Tuchel also besides the UCL run , I dont think I enjoyed it just watch for the win only....the last 6 months was horrible to watch till he got sacked.
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yup agree, the flying MALOUDA and A.COLE partnership, playing playstation football scoring lots of goal. ANCELOTTI very good in man management able to keep his squad happy and flexible in formation able to tailor to the player he have.

TT in the beginning is very nice to see too, very fast pace, flying wing back early low cross and those channel run by TIMO KAI but once kena found out, opponent just defend deep then gg liao sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif but by no mean is an easy problem to solve as LIV MANC also facing this problem, maybe that is why both club this season invest heavily in proper target CF.




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QUOTE(gaeria84 @ Sep 12 2022, 04:32 PM)
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Let it go.... Let it go.... TT not here anymore....

Is BOEHLY era now, he have decided how he want to move the club forward. I think u need to move forward too like starting #BOEHLYOUT rather than dwell on TT.
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QUOTE(dennis008 @ Sep 12 2022, 05:03 PM)


nah zoidx help u find photo liao
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QUOTE(zoidx_chung @ Sep 12 2022, 05:39 PM)
Plotting something else
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sadding, why u no put KEPA ranting.gif ranting.gif ranting.gif
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QUOTE(Shanks747 @ Sep 14 2022, 06:52 AM)
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erm... did he said KDB SALAH is from CHE academy ? laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif but going the way of RB and CITY group is definitely right thing to do.

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QUOTE(zoidx_chung @ Sep 14 2022, 04:17 PM)
he just a businessman
cant diffentiate 443 and 433, you think he know detail about how to become academy player?
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ok lar still early, can kasi chan, so far he have done what he preach. He spend the transfer money, he get a manager that can handle the football matter at the club not just first team. Next will be director of football that can work with the manager. The only thing we can question BOEHLY is, did he pick the right manager in POTTER ?

Other than that is all up to POTTER now, top4 is the target, anything less fans will not be happy, not sure BOEHLY will have patient like what ARS have given to ARTETA but relegation battle and total dressing room breakdown will definitely get him the sack.

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