I have to be very careful as I write this because we live in incredibly 'woke' times and gender inequality is a thing for many societies.

I personally never really thought gender inequality is a thing because I believe where you are in your career is highly dependent on the effort you fork out to attain said accomplishments. In fact, all my working life, I've generally preferred working with female bosses because as a guy, I prefer the nurturing style of leadership and mentorship. However, my current job predisposes to me a female boss who tends to be very temperamental and she nitpicks things everyday to the point that I am now considering seeking HR for support.

Before I reached out to HR for support, I have spoken to a lot of friends about my situation, and many always return with the same sentiment, "Female bosses always PMS."

Even though I've heard of the saying all the time, I think it was only recently I find myself subscribing to mindset that female bosses are difficult to handle. I've had great female bosses in the past, but these female bosses generally leave their company or hold very senior positions at best, i.e. Manager.

So I'm wondering if everyone else actually thinks female bosses are tricky to work with.

Generally yes, but there are exception

not really. but their sex doesnt matter, you just need to learn how to manage and work with the bosses.

in a way, there is some truth in it, as men and women think differently. though, professionally speaking, they should not.

yes, there are exceptions.

and yes, you'll need to know how to 'manage' them regardless. the same goes for colleagues as well.

Hahahahaha this kind of gender stereotype again? If you've had no issue working with female bosses in the past and only say, this 1 is temperamental, then it's her personality that's the problem. If you say you've worked with, for example, 10 female bosses and more than 50% are temperamental, then forming this kind of bias or opinion (due to your personal experience) isn't unreasonable.

Observation based on my own encounter - I find that if a person is meticulous and demanding, they're less tolerant to error. So all in all, it drills down to a person's personality imho, because I've worked with temperamental male bosses as well (both married and bachelors). Thus, it all depends on your luck when you meet your future superior.

From my personal experiences i say yes.

Happen to me.

I resigned

Not all female bosses are difficult. Even male bosses got their "pms" sessions. I've worked with both and experienced both good and bad.

I've even seen other bosses hurling expletives when I was having a meeting at another co. That was an embarrassing thing to happen to be honest. No wonder nowadays people don't really do company tour anymore (besides covid).

This post has been edited by digitalz: Aug 10 2022, 02:55 PM

Paling takut the female boss who don't know much, but act like she's an expert.

When you try to correct/divert her, telling her what she proposed won't/can't/don't work, she'd think you're trying to challenge her authority.

Worst case scenario is when a female heads a team of engineers/technicians.

Based on personal experience, yes. Temperamental every month especially PMS.

Nitpicking is nothing special as some male bosses did the same thing.

Comparison with other employees also common. The new always get compared with the old. Good or bad depends.

Overall, female bosses were mostly problem solvers. They tend to analyse the situation differently.

so far in my working experience, i never had a male direct reporting, i never had a very difficult situation so far , i can't say for male since i never had 1 before

Yes

No, nothing to do with whether they are female or not. I have worked for many managers, bosses and only a few I can truly count as leaders. There is a difference and it all depends on whether they want to spend the effort and time to be a leader or end up being just a manager. I think its a generalisation to think female bosses are like that but I have had male bosses who act the same way as well.

Even harder if your boss is pretty/good-looking.

I've had both male (80%) and female (20%) bosses and good and bad from each.

Stereotype is just stereotype. I've had good and difficult bosses from both gender. Worst type is the catfight type ....the ones that want hate and want to fight another boss but no balls so just put you in between - that one both male and female bosses also kena b4

Personally yes...
More trouble if they act smart but in actual clueless 🙂

q: Is she above 40 and still single?

Not kidding. Women above 40 and single all "pen tai".

Mid 30s I believe.

Pen Tai means what?

it depends, man and women are equal imo.
Will respect whoever it is the superior if they do show some impressive work attitude and experience

Crazy in Cantonese. Although personally I've never encountered an old spinster/bachelor at managerial level in corporate. Usually they are senior staff onli.

Depends. They are more petty and meticulous when it comes to work but they are usually more understanding if you have personal problems

Survivorship bias I would say, it existed on both gender. The only troublesome manager I had met before is male.

Generally both quite balanced. I have seen the best and worst from both gender.

I have more respect towards women that have to manage both career and family (mother and wife) as that's the general society perception on them (which can be very unfair)

Male can mostly just focus on career and mostly ignore about everything else and can get away with it.

This post has been edited by Topace111: Aug 12 2022, 11:36 PM

This one same for male also.

I think it all comes down to experiences which that person has gone through.

I've had my equal share of both good and bad women and men line managers and head of business.

so far, based on my experience, generally yes. of course they are some nice ones. but most of the female bosses, maybe being female:

1. they put more emotions into work, must take care of their feelings else they will just burst easily
2. they are damn particular and what also can't let go, super calculative
3. cant really accept opinions, they will take it as challenge and disrespect
4. then female bosses if they really make it up the ranks, usually they are old and not married, career is all they have, they will work till super late nights and expect you to do the same

lastly, again these are again from my personal experience and my general perception. not representing ALL female bosses ya


OH but one thing good about female bosses, you only need to impress her once, a good deep impression, and you will forever be at her good side and your life will be smooth sailing. she will protect you all the way while bash the rest of your colleagues. hahahaha

This post has been edited by callmecool: Aug 18 2022, 06:09 PM

usually married female with kids are very nice to work with. as they have more compassion. While female without kids will have super high expectations in general. Personally most of my ex female manager with kids are even better than male manager

This post has been edited by soules83: Aug 22 2022, 10:51 AM

What say you of unmarried workaholic male on medium managerial level who likes to nitpick every single imperfections and prone to sudden emotions flare-up as well as selective amnesia/denial when things could be faulted on him over his past decisions/instructions?

male manager usually dont cherrypicking while female with kids usually dont cherrypicking as they builtup their compassion and at the same time very sensitive to their employees needs.

This post has been edited by soules83: Aug 22 2022, 02:51 PM

yes, mostly auntie but not all

call me sexist, but i tend to feel female are more drama/sentimental sometimes, easily triggered emotionally instead of acting professionally oops

The dramatic part is more prevalent in women bosses.

i had woman boss before, she very good and very fast... although too meticulous or overthink a bit...

i had a woman boss teruk too, emotional and even blame her period or PMS for her bad behaviour!!!!!!!

I won't go very specific on gender, but emphasize on which generation. Boomers, Gen X and older Millennials tend to be harder to work with because they have gone through the hustle culture and more toxic workplace environment.

Although some of them might develop more empathy towards their juniors (they want to be a better boss and be different from what they have endured).

i had worked with female bosses in my career. they are not different than the male counterparts. some can be kind and some unkind and no compassion to the same gender.

i just adapt to their working style in order to work in peace (and in one piece).

i had worked with female bosses in my career. they are not different than the male counterparts. some can be kind and some unkind and no compassion to the same gender.

i just adapt to their working style in order to work in peace (and in one piece).

Chicken and egg problem. Is it because unmarried females pursue career hence have no kids or have no kids so put high expectations on their career...i tend to believe is the former..and these women are deadly to work with.

These kinds of threads are pointless. Chinaman boss too demanding. Female boss to hard. German male boss too hard. Orange dog boss too demanding. Tall people too high and strain neck, so too demanding.

Here's another stereotype, Malaysians love complaining about everything.

You're an adult. Act like one. You have three choices

1. Cry cry to HR
2. Quit
3. Suck it up

Dont for a moment think you can get a petition started here to bring to HR to prove your point

Congrats, you have ended up with a PMS lady boss.

I don't think it is a good idea to reach out HR for support. HR is not your friend, they always side the employer.

Its general: Male bosses also can be difficult to handle not just women. Men and women are just alike, there are good bosses and there are asshole bosses.

At times, women tend to be a bit more micro manage. Men tend to bit a bit macro manage. But that doesn't mean is good or bad at either side. But if they exceed the threshold, then is bad, too much micro is no good. And those macro men bosses can be egotistical and verbally abusive if you ended up with a bad boss.

If you really can't stand your lady PMS boss, there are following choices, not that you have much, anyways, admittedly as an employee, we pretty much screwed if we ended up with bad bosses, our choices are limited:

1) Play to the tune of your boss the best you can (may not work all the time)
2) Plan to work another 3 years, if still no change get out
3) or look for job now while tahan this crazy boss
4) ask for transfer to another department, suck up to other bosses make them impress with your work.

he must have worked for a unmarried workaholic micro manager female

that's why his style is like that.

Most of my female friends also prefer work under male boss.

Don't get me wrong there are great female bosses but the general consensus seems to be the female bosses seem to be wishy washy in decision making, ego and easily feel threatened.

I have worked under many female bosses in my career (more female than male, wonder why). I don’t generalize often but let’s play along with this topic so here are my two sen.

Often female bosses can be split into two types, iron ladies or b*ll crusher and mother hens. The first group tend to be quite high in the company setup, everyone scared of them, sometimes even their own bosses! But they know their stuff, and they are often right in meetings. Mother hen managers may scold a lot, but when stuff hits the fan they will defend you to the end. You end up keeping in touch with them even after you leave the company.

What I want to add is why female bosses are generally seen this way. To me it’s a product of being in a male dominated work environment. Females sometimes have no choice but to be iron ladies or strong defenders of their staff if they want to survive in corporate environment

Normally a type of old single unmarried dominant bossy woman boss have a trend of wearing long pants only, or suit/jacket and never wears dress/skirt. Could be sporting short hair too. Trying hard to project masculine appearance.Anyone have encountered?

An astute observation

When comes to leadership ability, i would say both genders are equal. I have seen the good ones and the bad ones.

But one thing you cannot take away from women is the emotional instability. I have seen that in some male bosses as well but in female bosses, it's 100% confirmed. This is the main drawback i have experienced.

I'm pretty sure you have seen it when dealing with your wife/gf before. So, the same thing in female bosses.

For example, you said something and they got upset and you will be wondering 'what I have said that got her upset?'. Not only I have seen this in my personal gf/wife relationship but also among female bosses.

no joke, those manager really very hard to work with as they are high critically and macro monitoring all your task. they also love very frequent call and talk as they think talking will fix the expectation, but it just add up your pressure and a lot of interruption to your work. to make it worse, they even ping you during weekend or even at 12am. If you have a unmarried female manager, run...run for your life.

This post has been edited by soules83: Aug 29 2022, 02:23 PM