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LLLogan
post Aug 11 2022, 07:59 AM

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QUOTE(contestchris @ Aug 11 2022, 01:38 AM)
Pen Tai means what?
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Crazy in Cantonese. Although personally I've never encountered an old spinster/bachelor at managerial level in corporate. Usually they are senior staff onli.
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post Aug 11 2022, 05:30 PM

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Depends. They are more petty and meticulous when it comes to work but they are usually more understanding if you have personal problems
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post Aug 11 2022, 05:44 PM

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Survivorship bias I would say, it existed on both gender. The only troublesome manager I had met before is male.
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post Aug 12 2022, 11:36 PM

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Generally both quite balanced. I have seen the best and worst from both gender.

I have more respect towards women that have to manage both career and family (mother and wife) as that's the general society perception on them (which can be very unfair)

Male can mostly just focus on career and mostly ignore about everything else and can get away with it.

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post Aug 13 2022, 12:38 AM

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QUOTE(scorgio @ Aug 10 2022, 02:59 PM)
Paling takut the female boss who don't know much, but act like she's an expert.

When you try to correct/divert her, telling her what she proposed won't/can't/don't work, she'd think you're trying to challenge her authority.

Worst case scenario is when a female heads a team of engineers/technicians.
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This one same for male also.

I think it all comes down to experiences which that person has gone through.

I've had my equal share of both good and bad women and men line managers and head of business.


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post Aug 18 2022, 06:07 PM

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so far, based on my experience, generally yes. of course they are some nice ones. but most of the female bosses, maybe being female:

1. they put more emotions into work, must take care of their feelings else they will just burst easily
2. they are damn particular and what also can't let go, super calculative
3. cant really accept opinions, they will take it as challenge and disrespect
4. then female bosses if they really make it up the ranks, usually they are old and not married, career is all they have, they will work till super late nights and expect you to do the same

lastly, again these are again from my personal experience and my general perception. not representing ALL female bosses ya smile.gif


OH but one thing good about female bosses, you only need to impress her once, a good deep impression, and you will forever be at her good side and your life will be smooth sailing. she will protect you all the way while bash the rest of your colleagues. hahahaha

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soules83
post Aug 22 2022, 10:44 AM

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QUOTE(MerryGoRound^2 @ Aug 10 2022, 11:40 AM)
I have to be very careful as I write this because we live in incredibly 'woke' times and gender inequality is a thing for many societies.

I personally never really thought gender inequality is a thing because I believe where you are in your career is highly dependent on the effort you fork out to attain said accomplishments. In fact, all my working life, I've generally preferred working with female bosses because as a guy, I prefer the nurturing style of leadership and mentorship. However, my current job predisposes to me a female boss who tends to be very temperamental and she nitpicks things everyday to the point that I am now considering seeking HR for support.

Before I reached out to HR for support, I have spoken to a lot of friends about my situation, and many always return with the same sentiment, "Female bosses always PMS."

Even though I've heard of the saying all the time, I think it was only recently I find myself subscribing to mindset that female bosses are difficult to handle. I've had great female bosses in the past, but these female bosses generally leave their company or hold very senior positions at best, i.e. Manager.

So I'm wondering if everyone else actually thinks female bosses are tricky to work with.
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usually married female with kids are very nice to work with. as they have more compassion. While female without kids will have super high expectations in general. Personally most of my ex female manager with kids are even better than male manager

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post Aug 22 2022, 02:36 PM

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What say you of unmarried workaholic male on medium managerial level who likes to nitpick every single imperfections and prone to sudden emotions flare-up as well as selective amnesia/denial when things could be faulted on him over his past decisions/instructions?
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post Aug 22 2022, 02:50 PM

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QUOTE(fookhing @ Aug 22 2022, 02:36 PM)
What say you of unmarried workaholic male on medium managerial level who likes to nitpick every single imperfections and prone to sudden emotions flare-up as well as selective amnesia/denial when things could be faulted on him over his past decisions/instructions?
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male manager usually dont cherrypicking while female with kids usually dont cherrypicking as they builtup their compassion and at the same time very sensitive to their employees needs.

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post Aug 22 2022, 02:53 PM

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yes, mostly auntie but not all
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post Aug 22 2022, 07:19 PM

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call me sexist, but i tend to feel female are more drama/sentimental sometimes, easily triggered emotionally instead of acting professionally oops
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post Aug 22 2022, 10:54 PM

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The dramatic part is more prevalent in women bosses.
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post Aug 24 2022, 12:29 PM

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i had woman boss before, she very good and very fast... although too meticulous or overthink a bit...

i had a woman boss teruk too, emotional and even blame her period or PMS for her bad behaviour!!!!!!! bangwall.gif bangwall.gif bangwall.gif
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post Aug 24 2022, 02:42 PM

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I won't go very specific on gender, but emphasize on which generation. Boomers, Gen X and older Millennials tend to be harder to work with because they have gone through the hustle culture and more toxic workplace environment.

Although some of them might develop more empathy towards their juniors (they want to be a better boss and be different from what they have endured).
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post Aug 24 2022, 05:43 PM

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i had worked with female bosses in my career. they are not different than the male counterparts. some can be kind and some unkind and no compassion to the same gender.

i just adapt to their working style in order to work in peace (and in one piece).
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post Aug 24 2022, 06:40 PM

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i had worked with female bosses in my career. they are not different than the male counterparts. some can be kind and some unkind and no compassion to the same gender.

i just adapt to their working style in order to work in peace (and in one piece).
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post Aug 24 2022, 07:13 PM

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QUOTE(soules83 @ Aug 22 2022, 10:44 AM)
usually married female with kids are very nice to work with. as they have more compassion. While female without kids will have super high expectations in general. Personally most of my ex female manager with kids are even better than male manager
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Chicken and egg problem. Is it because unmarried females pursue career hence have no kids or have no kids so put high expectations on their career...i tend to believe is the former..and these women are deadly to work with.
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post Aug 27 2022, 07:30 AM

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These kinds of threads are pointless. Chinaman boss too demanding. Female boss to hard. German male boss too hard. Orange dog boss too demanding. Tall people too high and strain neck, so too demanding.

Here's another stereotype, Malaysians love complaining about everything.

You're an adult. Act like one. You have three choices

1. Cry cry to HR
2. Quit
3. Suck it up

Dont for a moment think you can get a petition started here to bring to HR to prove your point

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post Aug 27 2022, 08:37 AM

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QUOTE(MerryGoRound^2 @ Aug 10 2022, 11:40 AM)
I have to be very careful as I write this because we live in incredibly 'woke' times and gender inequality is a thing for many societies.

I personally never really thought gender inequality is a thing because I believe where you are in your career is highly dependent on the effort you fork out to attain said accomplishments. In fact, all my working life, I've generally preferred working with female bosses because as a guy, I prefer the nurturing style of leadership and mentorship. However, my current job predisposes to me a female boss who tends to be very temperamental and she nitpicks things everyday to the point that I am now considering seeking HR for support.

Before I reached out to HR for support, I have spoken to a lot of friends about my situation, and many always return with the same sentiment, "Female bosses always PMS."

Even though I've heard of the saying all the time, I think it was only recently I find myself subscribing to mindset that female bosses are difficult to handle. I've had great female bosses in the past, but these female bosses generally leave their company or hold very senior positions at best, i.e. Manager.

So I'm wondering if everyone else actually thinks female bosses are tricky to work with.
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Congrats, you have ended up with a PMS lady boss.

I don't think it is a good idea to reach out HR for support. HR is not your friend, they always side the employer.

Its general: Male bosses also can be difficult to handle not just women. Men and women are just alike, there are good bosses and there are asshole bosses.

At times, women tend to be a bit more micro manage. Men tend to bit a bit macro manage. But that doesn't mean is good or bad at either side. But if they exceed the threshold, then is bad, too much micro is no good. And those macro men bosses can be egotistical and verbally abusive if you ended up with a bad boss.

If you really can't stand your lady PMS boss, there are following choices, not that you have much, anyways, admittedly as an employee, we pretty much screwed if we ended up with bad bosses, our choices are limited:

1) Play to the tune of your boss the best you can (may not work all the time)
2) Plan to work another 3 years, if still no change get out
3) or look for job now while tahan this crazy boss
4) ask for transfer to another department, suck up to other bosses make them impress with your work.


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post Aug 27 2022, 08:39 AM

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QUOTE(fookhing @ Aug 22 2022, 02:36 PM)
What say you of unmarried workaholic male on medium managerial level who likes to nitpick every single imperfections and prone to sudden emotions flare-up as well as selective amnesia/denial when things could be faulted on him over his past decisions/instructions?
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he must have worked for a unmarried workaholic micro manager female

that's why his style is like that.

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