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OEM or ori
 
OEM all the way. Asal jalan. Jimat. [ 23 ] ** [46.00%]
Ori. Ayam car enthusiast no settle for ntg less [ 11 ] ** [22.00%]
OEM on p1p2 go market cars. Ori on premium cars. Ayam M40/T20 [ 5 ] ** [10.00%]
Spare part mana spare part? - x50 x70 buy 2 [ 11 ] ** [22.00%]
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post Aug 8 2022, 10:54 PM, updated a long time ago

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Whats the diff btw OEM and Ori.

In hokkien. Keep saying guan zheng vs ori

Guan zheng is not ori?

OEM means china made?

Unker confuaed

Ori costs 1x to 2x more in price too
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post Aug 8 2022, 10:55 PM

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post Aug 8 2022, 10:57 PM

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Original Equipment Manufacturer. Just as the name says
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post Aug 8 2022, 10:57 PM

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oem = original mass pro kilang before kena branded

oem can be japan oem china oem depends on origin

only when kena brand liao then not oem
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post Aug 8 2022, 10:58 PM

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QUOTE(Jedi @ Aug 8 2022, 10:54 PM)
Whats the diff btw OEM and Ori.

In hokkien. Keep saying guan zheng vs ori

Guan zheng is not ori?

OEM means china made?

Unker confuaed

Ori costs 1x to 2x more in price too
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Guan zheng means ori.

Chiong means copy.
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post Aug 8 2022, 11:01 PM

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Oem very bad qc sometimes
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post Aug 8 2022, 11:02 PM

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actual name for original parts are just "original"

OEM means Original Equipment Manufacturer, example would be Toyota parts, comes in Toyota Box, but the part is made by Denso, at the same time, Denso Malaysia also selling the same parts under their own name, thus, Denso parts are supposed to be called OEM parts, exactly the same as the said Toyota Part, but just in different box.

But then again, in Malaysia, many copy parts running wild, ori parts also kena copy, oem parts also kena copy, even kedai spartpart also kenot differentiate, so its a jungle out there, u want cheaper can go to these OEM dealers if u sked kena copy parts, dealers are guaranteed to carry ori parts coz if they kena caught selling imitation parts, their dealership could get cancelled.

P.s. The term of ori/oem also has been vaguely used by the people until they become confusing, especially "oem", some say oem is copy parts, but well, it's actual meaning is the original part's manufacturer, thats all, it all depends on the manufacturer wants to sell the parts under their own name or not only.

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post Aug 8 2022, 11:05 PM

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OEM less quality, tahan life span shorter.
You can weight or feel both of them in your hand.

Guan Zheng is ori ok
OEM is china made.

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post Aug 8 2022, 11:07 PM

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Ori means the vehicle manufacturer branded parts. Usually tested nicely to a particular vehicle by the manufacturer.

OEM means third party produced parts according to ori spec. And vehicle manufacturers do use oem parts in their vehicle.

Ori parts a bit expensive than OEM usually. And have longer warranty.

Local parts are not really tested kaw2. They're made for spec but quality so so and use at own risk.

China made nowadays doesnt really means anything as much as its used to do . Even malaysia made can be cheap as hell or indo or thai made.

As others said Oem parts quality vary a lot nowadays.

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post Aug 8 2022, 11:08 PM

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Same. Only the QC different.
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post Aug 8 2022, 11:09 PM

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QUOTE(Jegane @ Aug 8 2022, 11:02 PM)
actual name for original parts are just "original"

OEM means Original Equipment Manufacturer, example would be Toyota parts, comes in Toyota Box, but the part is made by Denso, at the same time, Denso Malaysia also selling the same parts under their own name, thus, Denso parts are supposed to be called OEM parts, exactly the same as the said Toyota Part, but just in different box.

But then again, in Malaysia, many copy parts running wild, ori parts also kena copy, oem parts also kena copy, even kedai spartpart also kenot differentiate, so its a jungle out there, u want cheaper can go to these OEM dealers if u sked kena copy parts, dealers are guaranteed to carry ori parts coz if they kena caught selling imitation parts, their dealership could get cancelled.
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Coz there are no way for u to examine and certify OEM is really manufactured by the original factory..

Even if it is really from original factory, the quality varies and furthermore warranty is shorter (due to less/lower quality).

Does OEM has dealership? 1st time heard wo
U mean official dealer getting their OEM stocks from ori manufacturer/distributor?
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post Aug 8 2022, 11:10 PM

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OEM macam ori tapi bukan, high grade AAA clone.
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post Aug 8 2022, 11:11 PM

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To me, both are same. Oem produced the parts that you called original parts.

However, what differentiate is the way you purchased it. Original parts normally you purchased from service centre for example. But oem parts maybe you source it yourself.

The problem is theres a lot of fakes out there, and often when you try to source it, its a fake oem parts.
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QUOTE(WaCKy-Angel @ Aug 8 2022, 11:09 PM)
Coz there are no way for u to examine and certify OEM is really manufactured by the original factory..

Even if it is really from original factory, the quality varies and furthermore warranty is shorter (due to less/lower quality).

Does OEM has dealership? 1st time heard wo
U mean official dealer getting their OEM stocks from ori manufacturer/distributor?
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example is what I mentioned above, Denso, they have dealers all over Malaysia. Engine oil also, u think every car brand makes their own engine oil? They just source it from brands like Idemitsu or Castrol and repack as their own brand, so that makes the brand and OEM for the engine oil of the said car brand. eg: Idemitsu supplies for Honda.
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post Aug 8 2022, 11:15 PM

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there are few "OEM" that ppl keep claiming (especially those subpar part ..they also keep claiming they are "OEM" instead of third party compatible parts)


Example:
Mazda Ori Rx8 spark plug = Box is Mazda = Made by NGK
Mazda OEM Rx8 Spark plug = Box is NGK with exact same model
Mazda "OEM" Rx8 Spark Plug = Box and made by some other manufacturer but compatible to Rx8 (can be better or ...just cetak rompak)

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post Aug 8 2022, 11:20 PM

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QUOTE(WaCKy-Angel @ Aug 8 2022, 11:09 PM)
Coz there are no way for u to examine and certify OEM is really manufactured by the original factory..

Even if it is really from original factory, the quality varies and furthermore warranty is shorter (due to less/lower quality).

Does OEM has dealership? 1st time heard wo
U mean official dealer getting their OEM stocks from ori manufacturer/distributor?
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most of them got ; but u need to find out what is the exact part number for that (which you might purchase it wrongly if you arent familiar with that)

search from dealership or car parts shop that source from Denso / NGK / BorgWarner etc

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QUOTE(suikod3n @ Aug 8 2022, 11:10 PM)
OEM macam ori tapi bukan, high grade AAA clone.
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not entirely true

but many seller selling subpar counterfeit compatible part also keep claiming "OEM" laugh.gif
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post Aug 8 2022, 11:27 PM

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OEM is the company/vendor which is contracted by your car manufacturer to produce the part for them: eg headlamps, coil plugs, etc

So buying with car manufacturer label would entail a higher retail price, in theory.
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post Aug 8 2022, 11:36 PM

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That depends. Like spark plugs , all those car manufacturers dont make them. Japanese cars either use NGK or Denso . If so call ori with car manufacturers brand and logo slapped onto the packaging demand 2x the price , im not buying that.

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post Aug 8 2022, 11:46 PM

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Pinjam thread, where to get car parts like interior Ori parts?
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post Aug 8 2022, 11:49 PM

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In Msia seller love to say OEM to sell no name crap.

I prefer to use aftermarket brands. Chances it will turn out crap are lower because the manufacturer put their name on their stuff that will make users easy to give feedback and easier to find reviews.
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post Aug 8 2022, 11:49 PM

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some after market oem is better than original,that because those original specification might not be good in today standard.

e.g hybrid nitrogen+oil filled absorber are more durable than conventional oil filled only absorber.

a tip here, dont ever buy parts with brand name, oem that didnt put brand name are likely just refurbished parts that might be repaired with lower quality components (e.g rubber that harden in a year)

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post Aug 9 2022, 12:04 AM

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Depends on your vehicle age

If the part no longer mass produced by the original factory end up your only option are OEM, example bosch also produced OEM and original

OEM from china , Taiwan, indo and so on
OEM within Malaysia aka local

After market also produced original equipment example brembo also produced original and OEM

Originally equipment user repair outside bought from from service center etc QC passed once sold no longer covered with warranty to avoid unnecessary user error or workshop error

Everything repaired under the service center warranty covered by them milage or year or whichever come first

At the end check around for the reputation brand don't simply fall into too real to be true 😂
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QUOTE(suikod3n @ Aug 8 2022, 11:10 PM)
OEM macam ori tapi bukan, high grade AAA clone.
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QUOTE(Steponlego @ Aug 8 2022, 11:49 PM)
In Msia seller love to say OEM to sell no name crap.

I prefer to use aftermarket brands. Chances it will turn out crap are lower because the manufacturer put their name on their stuff that will make users easy to give feedback and easier to find reviews.
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Just to share. In the Malaysian cycling world, some sellers say "OEM frameset" which means that it's knock-off / rip-off carbon fibre frames from unknown factories.
Usually these frames imitate the high end brands like Specialized S-Works / Factor / Pinarello / Colnago / Cipolini / Trek / etc...
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post Aug 9 2022, 04:22 PM

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OEM used to mean not actual brand but quality gred AAA but now it's not anymore with the rampant copy of a copy .... and their Quality varies...
Just treat OEM as Cap Ayam and Ori as Ori lor...
There are reasons why OEM is cheaper than Ori. It doesn't mean OEM can't be used at all but it all depends on your luck, if get actual OEM gred AAA then lucky you, if you get OEM gred C then you are unlucky lor... you won't know until the part breaks..
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QUOTE(munak991 @ Aug 8 2022, 11:46 PM)
Pinjam thread, where to get car parts like interior Ori parts?
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depend on the parts ..some very unique parts ..there is no OEM parts from original manufacturer

so either Ori from your car brand

Or

third party compatible part
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QUOTE(Jedi @ Aug 8 2022, 10:54 PM)
Whats the diff btw OEM and Ori.

In hokkien. Keep saying guan zheng vs ori

Guan zheng is not ori?

OEM means china made?

Unker confuaed

Ori costs 1x to 2x more in price too
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really depends on what your definition of OEM and Ori is....

For Example,
We have TRW, Mitsubishi, Exedy for clutch pad set for a Lancer

TRW is el cheapo OEM brand
Exedy is actual OEM brand
Mitsubishi buy from Exedy and slap their logo onto the box and charge extra RM100.....

Buy exedy same as buy Mitsubishi, but buy TRW is el cheapo.

So, you have:
OEM for Ori brand
Ori Brand
OEM for Cap Parang brand
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QUOTE(Steponlego @ Aug 8 2022, 11:49 PM)
In Msia seller love to say OEM to sell no name crap.

I prefer to use aftermarket brands. Chances it will turn out crap are lower because the manufacturer put their name on their stuff that will make users easy to give feedback and easier to find reviews.
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they destroyed the term OEM honestly......
AAAAAAA grade clone also can claim 99% similar to epal ipong doh.gif
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no thanks for cetak rompak parts.. fittings not nice, and dun last long.
i using P1 also i rather buy ori parts all the way..
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QUOTE(Eurochem @ Aug 9 2022, 04:45 PM)
they destroyed the term OEM honestly......
AAAAAAA grade clone also can claim 99% similar to epal ipong  doh.gif
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is it hard to make your own brand and sell it and dirt cheap price to compete with original part?
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QUOTE(Steponlego @ Aug 9 2022, 04:50 PM)
is it hard to make your own brand and sell it and dirt cheap price to compete with original part?
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depends on what brand.

For casting components, you sure can't beat original or actual OEM since they have mould etc. set up already.
You could always import from the actual OEM and put your badge on it and undercut original brand....
not gonna work though if you're competing against brands like Mazda that strictly prohibit such things from their OEMs sad.gif
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Senang crita OEM got 2 types. 1 murah 1 expensive.
Example. Spark plugs, ngk n denso, it's good and recognize brand, quality also tahan. And it's oem. Then u will see Honda Toyota Perodua plug as well. They call it Ori, but Honda Toyota never made plug, so they ask denso n ngk made for them. Ngk denso is high quality oem. Then u may find other brand in shopi, brand u never heard b4, tats cheap oem.
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QUOTE(mushigen @ Aug 8 2022, 10:58 PM)
Guan zheng means ori.

Chiong means copy.
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ehhhh, chiong not piap meh? unker confuse rclxub.gif
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ori meaning at least quality guaranteed by manufacturer

oem see brand, or luck, some better than ori, most similar or worst quality
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to me, some original parts have higher std of quality than OEM...even if it is manufactured in the same factory ..

for example

my original proton preve lower arm more tahan and last longer about 5 years of usage

compared to the same TRW manufactured lower arm for proton preve which last about half of the age of the original lower arm..
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when people say OEM it used to be original. nowadays if you hear OEM its fake. coz even the seller themselves dont understand what OEM means.

if i sell item and advertise it as OEM, people also think its fake. so no point for "OEM" to exist anymore.





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QUOTE(fantasy1989 @ Aug 9 2022, 04:41 PM)
depend on the parts ..some very unique parts ..there is no OEM parts from original manufacturer

so either Ori from your car brand

Or

third party compatible part
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QUOTE(mushigen @ Aug 8 2022, 10:58 PM)
Guan zheng means ori.

Chiong zheng means copy.
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fixed,

chiong means go find prostitute release...... sweat.gif
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QUOTE(Justin.Loong @ Aug 9 2022, 04:12 PM)
Just to share. In the Malaysian cycling world, some sellers say "OEM frameset" which means that it's knock-off / rip-off carbon fibre frames from unknown factories.
Usually these frames imitate the high end brands like Specialized S-Works / Factor / Pinarello / Colnago / Cipolini / Trek / etc...
user posted image

user posted image
gambar sekadar hiasan

upah of what a frameset looks like...  whistling.gif
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yeap....i bought a carbon frame bring to D decal spray BMC brand and sell off, buyer doesn't suspect any shits made a clean few thousands profits.... thumbsup.gif

annpow is tri la.....post la drill of cycling goddess Ras or Sticker....ohhwait
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QUOTE(Strike Eureka @ Aug 9 2022, 05:54 PM)
fixed,

chiong means go find prostitute release......  sweat.gif
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I know what the other chiong means lah biggrin.gif

I've never heard spare part shop owners/workers add "zheng" behind chiong. It's always chiong eh vs guan zheng.
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QUOTE(Strike Eureka @ Aug 9 2022, 05:59 PM)
yeap....i bought a carbon frame bring to D decal spray BMC brand and sell off, buyer doesn't suspect any shits made a clean few thousands profits.... thumbsup.gif

annpow is tri la.....post la drill of cycling goddess Ras or Sticker....ohhwait
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Yeah, some of the China OEM framesets are so good that it's a bit hard to tell the real from the knock-off. There are some telltale signs but hard to spot if the buyer is inexperienced.
Ras? No thank you. shakehead.gif
I'll put PAS girl instead... lol... tongue.gif biggrin.gif rclxms.gif icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(Azran1979 @ Aug 9 2022, 05:10 PM)
when people say OEM it used to be original. nowadays if you hear OEM its fake. coz even the seller themselves dont understand what OEM means.

if i sell item and advertise it as OEM, people also think its fake. so no point for "OEM" to exist anymore.
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+1 on your post above. nod.gif
Nowadays, most buyer would readily assume "OEM" means "replica" or some kind of AAA grade rip-off. sad.gif
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QUOTE(Azran1979 @ Aug 9 2022, 05:10 PM)
when people say OEM it used to be original. nowadays if you hear OEM its fake. coz even the seller themselves dont understand what OEM means.

if i sell item and advertise it as OEM, people also think its fake. so no point for "OEM" to exist anymore.
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THIS!

seller here all misunderstood and misleading others by OEM
it used to be for something like e.g. CHONG BRAKES makes brake pads for TESLA and the brake pads are branded "tesla". they also make the same pads sold as chong brakes. therefore, i have no issue to call chong brakes as OEMs...
but, seller all simply call achi brakes as OEMs too when they have no relation to tesla at all. nowadays, everything (chong, achi, fakes) is simply lumped under oems... very confusing...

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QUOTE(THE CLASS OF 13 @ Aug 9 2022, 05:08 PM)
to me, some original parts have higher std of quality than OEM...even if it is manufactured in the same factory ..

for example

my original proton preve lower arm more tahan and last longer about 5 years of usage

compared to the same TRW manufactured lower arm for proton preve which last about half of the age of the original lower arm..
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just asking. if you buy preve original proton lower arm does it have the "TRW" chop?

like proton satria neo, even the original proton absorber will still have the OEM "APM" chop on the stanchion.

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OEM = a piece of t-shirt

ORI = a piece of t-shirt with Nike wording printed on it.
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oem factory usually vendor for car manufacturer..they produce parts, after car manufacturer put label then become ori la..but usually the vendor dont sell direct to open market..
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Not all OEM is cacat. Bosch, SWAG, Lemforder, Bilstein etc is all good Germany OEM.
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QUOTE(Azran1979 @ Aug 9 2022, 07:35 PM)
just asking. if you buy preve original proton lower arm does it have the "TRW" chop?

like proton satria neo, even the original proton absorber will still have the OEM "APM" chop on the stanchion.
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apparently, the bush part number is different..on the molding is all the same without any stamping..

 

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