Whats the diff btw OEM and Ori.
In hokkien. Keep saying guan zheng vs ori
Guan zheng is not ori?
OEM means china made?
Unker confuaed
Ori costs 1x to 2x more in price too
Whats the diff OEM vs Ori in car parts?
Whats the diff OEM vs Ori in car parts?
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Whats the diff btw OEM and Ori.
In hokkien. Keep saying guan zheng vs ori Guan zheng is not ori? OEM means china made? Unker confuaed Ori costs 1x to 2x more in price too |
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Grade AAA whatever fancy bootleg name is
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Original Equipment Manufacturer. Just as the name says
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oem = original mass pro kilang before kena branded
oem can be japan oem china oem depends on origin only when kena brand liao then not oem |
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Oem very bad qc sometimes
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actual name for original parts are just "original"
OEM means Original Equipment Manufacturer, example would be Toyota parts, comes in Toyota Box, but the part is made by Denso, at the same time, Denso Malaysia also selling the same parts under their own name, thus, Denso parts are supposed to be called OEM parts, exactly the same as the said Toyota Part, but just in different box. But then again, in Malaysia, many copy parts running wild, ori parts also kena copy, oem parts also kena copy, even kedai spartpart also kenot differentiate, so its a jungle out there, u want cheaper can go to these OEM dealers if u sked kena copy parts, dealers are guaranteed to carry ori parts coz if they kena caught selling imitation parts, their dealership could get cancelled. P.s. The term of ori/oem also has been vaguely used by the people until they become confusing, especially "oem", some say oem is copy parts, but well, it's actual meaning is the original part's manufacturer, thats all, it all depends on the manufacturer wants to sell the parts under their own name or not only. This post has been edited by Jegane: Aug 8 2022, 11:05 PM |
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OEM less quality, tahan life span shorter.
You can weight or feel both of them in your hand. Guan Zheng is ori ok OEM is china made. |
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Ori means the vehicle manufacturer branded parts. Usually tested nicely to a particular vehicle by the manufacturer.
OEM means third party produced parts according to ori spec. And vehicle manufacturers do use oem parts in their vehicle. Ori parts a bit expensive than OEM usually. And have longer warranty. Local parts are not really tested kaw2. They're made for spec but quality so so and use at own risk. China made nowadays doesnt really means anything as much as its used to do . Even malaysia made can be cheap as hell or indo or thai made. As others said Oem parts quality vary a lot nowadays. This post has been edited by indran1412: Aug 8 2022, 11:09 PM |
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Same. Only the QC different. etan26 liked this post
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QUOTE(Jegane @ Aug 8 2022, 11:02 PM) actual name for original parts are just "original" Coz there are no way for u to examine and certify OEM is really manufactured by the original factory..OEM means Original Equipment Manufacturer, example would be Toyota parts, comes in Toyota Box, but the part is made by Denso, at the same time, Denso Malaysia also selling the same parts under their own name, thus, Denso parts are supposed to be called OEM parts, exactly the same as the said Toyota Part, but just in different box. But then again, in Malaysia, many copy parts running wild, ori parts also kena copy, oem parts also kena copy, even kedai spartpart also kenot differentiate, so its a jungle out there, u want cheaper can go to these OEM dealers if u sked kena copy parts, dealers are guaranteed to carry ori parts coz if they kena caught selling imitation parts, their dealership could get cancelled. Even if it is really from original factory, the quality varies and furthermore warranty is shorter (due to less/lower quality). Does OEM has dealership? 1st time heard wo U mean official dealer getting their OEM stocks from ori manufacturer/distributor? |
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OEM macam ori tapi bukan, high grade AAA clone.
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To me, both are same. Oem produced the parts that you called original parts.
However, what differentiate is the way you purchased it. Original parts normally you purchased from service centre for example. But oem parts maybe you source it yourself. The problem is theres a lot of fakes out there, and often when you try to source it, its a fake oem parts. |
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QUOTE(WaCKy-Angel @ Aug 8 2022, 11:09 PM) Coz there are no way for u to examine and certify OEM is really manufactured by the original factory.. example is what I mentioned above, Denso, they have dealers all over Malaysia. Engine oil also, u think every car brand makes their own engine oil? They just source it from brands like Idemitsu or Castrol and repack as their own brand, so that makes the brand and OEM for the engine oil of the said car brand. eg: Idemitsu supplies for Honda.Even if it is really from original factory, the quality varies and furthermore warranty is shorter (due to less/lower quality). Does OEM has dealership? 1st time heard wo U mean official dealer getting their OEM stocks from ori manufacturer/distributor? |
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there are few "OEM" that ppl keep claiming (especially those subpar part ..they also keep claiming they are "OEM" instead of third party compatible parts)
Example: Mazda Ori Rx8 spark plug = Box is Mazda = Made by NGK Mazda OEM Rx8 Spark plug = Box is NGK with exact same model Mazda "OEM" Rx8 Spark Plug = Box and made by some other manufacturer but compatible to Rx8 (can be better or ...just cetak rompak) This post has been edited by fantasy1989: Aug 8 2022, 11:18 PM |
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QUOTE(WaCKy-Angel @ Aug 8 2022, 11:09 PM) Coz there are no way for u to examine and certify OEM is really manufactured by the original factory.. most of them got ; but u need to find out what is the exact part number for that (which you might purchase it wrongly if you arent familiar with that) Even if it is really from original factory, the quality varies and furthermore warranty is shorter (due to less/lower quality). Does OEM has dealership? 1st time heard wo U mean official dealer getting their OEM stocks from ori manufacturer/distributor? search from dealership or car parts shop that source from Denso / NGK / BorgWarner etc This post has been edited by fantasy1989: Aug 8 2022, 11:22 PM |
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OEM is the company/vendor which is contracted by your car manufacturer to produce the part for them: eg headlamps, coil plugs, etc
So buying with car manufacturer label would entail a higher retail price, in theory. |
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That depends. Like spark plugs , all those car manufacturers dont make them. Japanese cars either use NGK or Denso . If so call ori with car manufacturers brand and logo slapped onto the packaging demand 2x the price , im not buying that.
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Pinjam thread, where to get car parts like interior Ori parts?
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In Msia seller love to say OEM to sell no name crap.
I prefer to use aftermarket brands. Chances it will turn out crap are lower because the manufacturer put their name on their stuff that will make users easy to give feedback and easier to find reviews. |
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some after market oem is better than original,that because those original specification might not be good in today standard.
e.g hybrid nitrogen+oil filled absorber are more durable than conventional oil filled only absorber. a tip here, dont ever buy parts with brand name, oem that didnt put brand name are likely just refurbished parts that might be repaired with lower quality components (e.g rubber that harden in a year) This post has been edited by zerorating: Aug 8 2022, 11:54 PM |
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Depends on your vehicle age
If the part no longer mass produced by the original factory end up your only option are OEM, example bosch also produced OEM and original OEM from china , Taiwan, indo and so on OEM within Malaysia aka local After market also produced original equipment example brembo also produced original and OEM Originally equipment user repair outside bought from from service center etc QC passed once sold no longer covered with warranty to avoid unnecessary user error or workshop error Everything repaired under the service center warranty covered by them milage or year or whichever come first At the end check around for the reputation brand don't simply fall into too real to be true 😂 |
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QUOTE(suikod3n @ Aug 8 2022, 11:10 PM) QUOTE(Steponlego @ Aug 8 2022, 11:49 PM) In Msia seller love to say OEM to sell no name crap. Just to share. In the Malaysian cycling world, some sellers say "OEM frameset" which means that it's knock-off / rip-off carbon fibre frames from unknown factories. I prefer to use aftermarket brands. Chances it will turn out crap are lower because the manufacturer put their name on their stuff that will make users easy to give feedback and easier to find reviews. Usually these frames imitate the high end brands like Specialized S-Works / Factor / Pinarello / Colnago / Cipolini / Trek / etc... ![]() ![]() gambar sekadar hiasan upah of what a frameset looks like... » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « |
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OEM used to mean not actual brand but quality gred AAA but now it's not anymore with the rampant copy of a copy .... and their Quality varies...
Just treat OEM as Cap Ayam and Ori as Ori lor... There are reasons why OEM is cheaper than Ori. It doesn't mean OEM can't be used at all but it all depends on your luck, if get actual OEM gred AAA then lucky you, if you get OEM gred C then you are unlucky lor... you won't know until the part breaks.. |
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QUOTE(Jedi @ Aug 8 2022, 10:54 PM) Whats the diff btw OEM and Ori. really depends on what your definition of OEM and Ori is....In hokkien. Keep saying guan zheng vs ori Guan zheng is not ori? OEM means china made? Unker confuaed Ori costs 1x to 2x more in price too For Example, We have TRW, Mitsubishi, Exedy for clutch pad set for a Lancer TRW is el cheapo OEM brand Exedy is actual OEM brand Mitsubishi buy from Exedy and slap their logo onto the box and charge extra RM100..... Buy exedy same as buy Mitsubishi, but buy TRW is el cheapo. So, you have: OEM for Ori brand Ori Brand OEM for Cap Parang brand |
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QUOTE(Steponlego @ Aug 8 2022, 11:49 PM) In Msia seller love to say OEM to sell no name crap. they destroyed the term OEM honestly......I prefer to use aftermarket brands. Chances it will turn out crap are lower because the manufacturer put their name on their stuff that will make users easy to give feedback and easier to find reviews. AAAAAAA grade clone also can claim 99% similar to epal ipong |
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no thanks for cetak rompak parts.. fittings not nice, and dun last long.
i using P1 also i rather buy ori parts all the way.. |
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QUOTE(Steponlego @ Aug 9 2022, 04:50 PM) depends on what brand.For casting components, you sure can't beat original or actual OEM since they have mould etc. set up already. You could always import from the actual OEM and put your badge on it and undercut original brand.... not gonna work though if you're competing against brands like Mazda that strictly prohibit such things from their OEMs |
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Senang crita OEM got 2 types. 1 murah 1 expensive.
Example. Spark plugs, ngk n denso, it's good and recognize brand, quality also tahan. And it's oem. Then u will see Honda Toyota Perodua plug as well. They call it Ori, but Honda Toyota never made plug, so they ask denso n ngk made for them. Ngk denso is high quality oem. Then u may find other brand in shopi, brand u never heard b4, tats cheap oem. |
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ori meaning at least quality guaranteed by manufacturer
oem see brand, or luck, some better than ori, most similar or worst quality |
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to me, some original parts have higher std of quality than OEM...even if it is manufactured in the same factory ..
for example my original proton preve lower arm more tahan and last longer about 5 years of usage compared to the same TRW manufactured lower arm for proton preve which last about half of the age of the original lower arm.. |
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when people say OEM it used to be original. nowadays if you hear OEM its fake. coz even the seller themselves dont understand what OEM means. if i sell item and advertise it as OEM, people also think its fake. so no point for "OEM" to exist anymore. flagstaff liked this post
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QUOTE(Justin.Loong @ Aug 9 2022, 04:12 PM) Just to share. In the Malaysian cycling world, some sellers say "OEM frameset" which means that it's knock-off / rip-off carbon fibre frames from unknown factories. yeap....i bought a carbon frame bring to D decal spray BMC brand and sell off, buyer doesn't suspect any shits made a clean few thousands profits.... Usually these frames imitate the high end brands like Specialized S-Works / Factor / Pinarello / Colnago / Cipolini / Trek / etc... ![]() ![]() gambar sekadar hiasan upah of what a frameset looks like... » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « annpow is tri la.....post la drill of cycling goddess Ras or Sticker....ohhwait |
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QUOTE(Strike Eureka @ Aug 9 2022, 05:59 PM) yeap....i bought a carbon frame bring to D decal spray BMC brand and sell off, buyer doesn't suspect any shits made a clean few thousands profits.... Yeah, some of the China OEM framesets are so good that it's a bit hard to tell the real from the knock-off. There are some telltale signs but hard to spot if the buyer is inexperienced. annpow is tri la.....post la drill of cycling goddess Ras or Sticker....ohhwait Ras? No thank you. I'll put PAS girl instead... lol... » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « |
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QUOTE(Azran1979 @ Aug 9 2022, 05:10 PM) when people say OEM it used to be original. nowadays if you hear OEM its fake. coz even the seller themselves dont understand what OEM means. +1 on your post above. if i sell item and advertise it as OEM, people also think its fake. so no point for "OEM" to exist anymore. Nowadays, most buyer would readily assume "OEM" means "replica" or some kind of AAA grade rip-off. |
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QUOTE(Azran1979 @ Aug 9 2022, 05:10 PM) when people say OEM it used to be original. nowadays if you hear OEM its fake. coz even the seller themselves dont understand what OEM means. THIS!if i sell item and advertise it as OEM, people also think its fake. so no point for "OEM" to exist anymore. seller here all misunderstood and misleading others by OEM it used to be for something like e.g. CHONG BRAKES makes brake pads for TESLA and the brake pads are branded "tesla". they also make the same pads sold as chong brakes. therefore, i have no issue to call chong brakes as OEMs... but, seller all simply call achi brakes as OEMs too when they have no relation to tesla at all. nowadays, everything (chong, achi, fakes) is simply lumped under oems... very confusing... This post has been edited by flagstaff: Aug 9 2022, 07:08 PM |
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QUOTE(THE CLASS OF 13 @ Aug 9 2022, 05:08 PM) to me, some original parts have higher std of quality than OEM...even if it is manufactured in the same factory .. just asking. if you buy preve original proton lower arm does it have the "TRW" chop?for example my original proton preve lower arm more tahan and last longer about 5 years of usage compared to the same TRW manufactured lower arm for proton preve which last about half of the age of the original lower arm.. like proton satria neo, even the original proton absorber will still have the OEM "APM" chop on the stanchion. This post has been edited by Azran1979: Aug 9 2022, 07:36 PM |
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OEM = a piece of t-shirt
ORI = a piece of t-shirt with Nike wording printed on it. |
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oem factory usually vendor for car manufacturer..they produce parts, after car manufacturer put label then become ori la..but usually the vendor dont sell direct to open market..
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Not all OEM is cacat. Bosch, SWAG, Lemforder, Bilstein etc is all good Germany OEM.
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QUOTE(Azran1979 @ Aug 9 2022, 07:35 PM) just asking. if you buy preve original proton lower arm does it have the "TRW" chop? apparently, the bush part number is different..on the molding is all the same without any stamping..like proton satria neo, even the original proton absorber will still have the OEM "APM" chop on the stanchion. |
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