Aug 3 2022, 08:41 AM
QUOTE(maximusdecimus @ Aug 2 2022, 12:39 PM)
For replying appropriately to a worthless comment? If that's how you judge attitude, not sure you're good at your job. If you noticed, I replied to everyone else with excellent insight with respect. This dude? Just here to stir shit because he's offended his beloved Chinamen got insulted despite having nothing to say. Respect is a two-way street.
Dude, you're finally starting to say something a bit more worthwhile, yet you still fcked it up. First of all, there's a lot of people who advice not placing the CGPA on the CV. That's exactly what I did. Secondly, that's not something you do "once in a while". That's literally part of the job scope you have to sign off on at made for China factories like this. Thirdly I would advise not jumping to conclusions, because that's more like your "tidak sedar diri attitude". The reason I refused to join this factory in particular is two-fold;
1) The Chinaman was more interested in me being able to toil in hot and humid conditions scraping the bottom of the barrel with the foreign workers (which they're short of) than anything related to engineering. The extent of "engineering" work I will be doing is punching in a few Excel files. No engineering software or knowledge involved. I did an on-site visit as well and I can safely conclude that the only learning involved would be using brute force to open and close machines. You're going to have to dig through century-old books with outdated P&ID diagrams if you're going to want to know anything about the machines.
2) I also read reviews from others who worked there and enquired with people while I was there for the interview. The prognosis is terminal. They don't have a single degree holder working anywhere around the plants. They're safely enjoying the comfort of the A/C office while sipping drinks.
Once again, I'd repeat that I don't care what size of company I'm heading to, or that my starting salary is low, or if they're Melayu/India/ Kadazan/ Orang Asli (do they even have the reputation of Chinamen? lol ðŸ¤). My only requirement is that I apply the knowledge I have gained from my studies as part of my job scope, not do something completely irrelevant and pretend I'm making use of my qualifications. And I don't for a second believe the CGPA is the sole factor like you're saying. Any good company should have other requirements and could also reference my SPM and matriculation results, both of which paint a very different picture of my academic qualifications. I don't enjoy teaching others for lecturer roles, but that's like the only worthwhile advice you gave so thanks I guess.
If your CGPA is not in your resume, during the job role application, if companies require the CGPA, HR will ask you to fill up the company job application form and request for you to put the CGPA there. Not putting your CGPA can help you in the initial recruiter scanning through or it might backfire and they will skip your resume because certain companies have a minimum CGPA hiring requirement for certain role. Dude, you're finally starting to say something a bit more worthwhile, yet you still fcked it up. First of all, there's a lot of people who advice not placing the CGPA on the CV. That's exactly what I did. Secondly, that's not something you do "once in a while". That's literally part of the job scope you have to sign off on at made for China factories like this. Thirdly I would advise not jumping to conclusions, because that's more like your "tidak sedar diri attitude". The reason I refused to join this factory in particular is two-fold;
1) The Chinaman was more interested in me being able to toil in hot and humid conditions scraping the bottom of the barrel with the foreign workers (which they're short of) than anything related to engineering. The extent of "engineering" work I will be doing is punching in a few Excel files. No engineering software or knowledge involved. I did an on-site visit as well and I can safely conclude that the only learning involved would be using brute force to open and close machines. You're going to have to dig through century-old books with outdated P&ID diagrams if you're going to want to know anything about the machines.
2) I also read reviews from others who worked there and enquired with people while I was there for the interview. The prognosis is terminal. They don't have a single degree holder working anywhere around the plants. They're safely enjoying the comfort of the A/C office while sipping drinks.
Once again, I'd repeat that I don't care what size of company I'm heading to, or that my starting salary is low, or if they're Melayu/India/ Kadazan/ Orang Asli (do they even have the reputation of Chinamen? lol ðŸ¤). My only requirement is that I apply the knowledge I have gained from my studies as part of my job scope, not do something completely irrelevant and pretend I'm making use of my qualifications. And I don't for a second believe the CGPA is the sole factor like you're saying. Any good company should have other requirements and could also reference my SPM and matriculation results, both of which paint a very different picture of my academic qualifications. I don't enjoy teaching others for lecturer roles, but that's like the only worthwhile advice you gave so thanks I guess.
1) I was in your shoes in the past, my first job was at an electronics factory run by a Japanese company. I had a masters in electronics engineering (2nd class upper) from the UK and my first job was to carry the products from one location to another location. That was followed by carrying replacement equipment to replace the ones on the factory line and across to different sites in the huge factory compound and under the sun and also once in a while getting drenched in the rain. The Japanese style is that on Fridays, everyone cleans up the workplace and factory, I see the GM of the department and all of the head engineers cleaning the toilets, pantry, workspace, testing areas and meeting rooms as well. Its all part and parcel of learning. Whilst it was a shock for me initially, the life lessons I learned there were invaluable and helped me to reach where I am today.
2) In any field that you are going to go into, be prepared that whatever you have learned at university you won't be applying at your work. That is the reality of life. Seriously. I went from factory worker to consultant to banking and then to technology. Never did I apply my knowledge of solid state physics and semiconductor which I learned at university and it is more and more prevalent in the workplace. As a hiring manager myself, these days I don't even bother looking at the university or CGPA (I mostly hire senior roles). Its about work experience and attitude that matters.
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