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 2017 KIA Optima GT or 2016 BMW 320i F30 FL, C/D segment sedan within RM100-120k

2017 KIA Optima GT or 2016 BMW 320i F30 FL
 
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TSQuang1819
post Jul 30 2022, 01:38 AM, updated 2y ago

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Hey guys, if you were to have a budget of 100-120k, which of the two you'd go for?

Optima GT
Pros
- powerful engine, great torque
- very planted at high speed (200km/h). Not that I'll go that fast but 160-180km/h on highway is absolutely comfortable. Cruises like a ship.
- decent interior
- panoramic roof
- spacious
- comfortable seats, like really comfortable
- not much but kinda like it's functional air vent at the front bumper haha

Cons
- horrible FC. 70L tank can only go up to 380km in city. Mix of highway and city is only around 450km top.
- heavy for its class
- scarcity of spare parts. Heard it's only about 500 units were sold on our shore.
- handling isn't that great. Feels a little gimmickry and not as connected


320i
Pros
- good looking car. Love the LCI lighting
- decent FC
- good power for its size. Torque is great for normal driving.
- great handling
- reliable ZF tranny
- spare parts are always easily available and isn't as pricey
- a little bonus for BMW badge snob? Lol

Cons
- dated interior
- prone to have minor issues here and there with the silly and unreliable sensors. Especially speed sensors.
- typical conti engine issues like coolant, gasket etc.
- B48 tends to have a part at the bottom of the engine that get rusty easily on Malaysia weather. Quite a costly fix too.
- sticky plastics. But it's an easy and cheap fix anyway

There. Still in a dilemma between the 2. Let me know if you have any suggestions within the budget. Only sedan, turbocharged and C/D segment. Bonus would be sunroof haha.
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post Jul 30 2022, 02:48 AM

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Kia gt for space and uniqueness

BMW is sort of meh any Tom dick and Harry drives one
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post Jul 30 2022, 11:06 AM

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post Jul 30 2022, 12:54 PM

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QUOTE(Quang1819 @ Jul 30 2022, 01:38 AM)
Hey guys, if you were to have a budget of 100-120k, which of the two you'd go for?

Optima GT
Pros
- powerful engine, great torque
- very planted at high speed (200km/h). Not that I'll go that fast but 160-180km/h on highway is absolutely comfortable. Cruises like a ship.
- decent interior
- panoramic roof
- spacious
- comfortable seats, like really comfortable
- not much but kinda like it's functional air vent at the front bumper haha

Cons
- horrible FC. 70L tank can only go up to 380km in city. Mix of highway and city is only around 450km top.
- heavy for its class 
- scarcity of spare parts. Heard it's only about 500 units were sold on our shore.
- handling isn't that great. Feels a little gimmickry and not as connected
320i
Pros
- good looking car. Love the LCI lighting
- decent FC
- good power for its size. Torque is great for normal driving.
- great handling
- reliable ZF tranny
- spare parts are always easily available and isn't as pricey
- a little bonus for BMW badge snob? Lol

Cons
- dated interior
- prone to have minor issues here and there with the silly and unreliable sensors. Especially speed sensors.
- typical conti engine issues like coolant, gasket etc.
- B48 tends to have a part at the bottom of the engine that get rusty easily on Malaysia weather. Quite a costly fix too.
- sticky plastics. But it's an easy and cheap fix anyway

There. Still in a dilemma between the 2. Let me know if you have any suggestions within the budget. Only sedan, turbocharged and C/D segment. Bonus would be sunroof haha.
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post Jul 30 2022, 06:31 PM

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Don't take Mazda 2.2 diesel, in any model at all. You will regret it.
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post Jul 30 2022, 07:38 PM

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QUOTE(amdxp @ Jul 30 2022, 06:31 PM)
Don't take Mazda 2.2 diesel, in any model at all.  You will regret it.
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Bro I'm really curious to know why considering many ppl would recommend BMW's diesel engines.
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post Jul 30 2022, 09:28 PM

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rather buy new civics
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post Aug 3 2022, 09:54 AM

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gogogo Optima GT..
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QUOTE(Quang1819 @ Jul 30 2022, 01:38 AM)
Hey guys, if you were to have a budget of 100-120k, which of the two you'd go for?

Optima GT
Pros
- powerful engine, great torque
- very planted at high speed (200km/h). Not that I'll go that fast but 160-180km/h on highway is absolutely comfortable. Cruises like a ship.
- decent interior
- panoramic roof
- spacious
- comfortable seats, like really comfortable
- not much but kinda like it's functional air vent at the front bumper haha

Cons
- horrible FC. 70L tank can only go up to 380km in city. Mix of highway and city is only around 450km top.
- heavy for its class 
- scarcity of spare parts. Heard it's only about 500 units were sold on our shore.
- handling isn't that great. Feels a little gimmickry and not as connected
320i
Pros
- good looking car. Love the LCI lighting
- decent FC
- good power for its size. Torque is great for normal driving.
- great handling
- reliable ZF tranny
- spare parts are always easily available and isn't as pricey
- a little bonus for BMW badge snob? Lol

Cons
- dated interior
- prone to have minor issues here and there with the silly and unreliable sensors. Especially speed sensors.
- typical conti engine issues like coolant, gasket etc.
- B48 tends to have a part at the bottom of the engine that get rusty easily on Malaysia weather. Quite a costly fix too.
- sticky plastics. But it's an easy and cheap fix anyway

There. Still in a dilemma between the 2. Let me know if you have any suggestions within the budget. Only sedan, turbocharged and C/D segment. Bonus would be sunroof haha.
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I’ll buy a 2012 VW Passat CC for rm40k and spend rm20k to fix it up.
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post Aug 3 2022, 10:38 PM

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Just get civic lor. 180kmh can cruise comfortably. just lose on comfort level to optima gt. fuel consumption way more efficient than optima gt
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post Aug 4 2022, 11:38 AM

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horrible FC. 70L tank can only go up to 380km in city. Mix of highway and city is only around 450km top.


this can be a concern soon. Gov been hinting non stop about reducing / removing petrol subsidies... 70L for 380km is horrible. supposed if RON95 is double the price eventually (let's just imagine for a min)

You will need another RM140 for every full tank, if you refuel every week, that's about RM500 more.

This post has been edited by hungrygodzilla: Aug 4 2022, 11:38 AM
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post Aug 4 2022, 12:02 PM

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QUOTE(Yapmy @ Jul 30 2022, 08:38 PM)
Bro I'm really curious to know why considering many ppl would recommend BMW's diesel engines.
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European diesel technology is more mature compare to Japanese diesel.
If not because of the diesel gate scandle, i believe most European will still opt for diesel engine.
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post Aug 4 2022, 07:57 PM

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QUOTE(Quang1819 @ Jul 30 2022, 01:38 AM)
Hey guys, if you were to have a budget of 100-120k, which of the two you'd go for?

Optima GT
Pros
- powerful engine, great torque
- very planted at high speed (200km/h). Not that I'll go that fast but 160-180km/h on highway is absolutely comfortable. Cruises like a ship.
- decent interior
- panoramic roof
- spacious
- comfortable seats, like really comfortable
- not much but kinda like it's functional air vent at the front bumper haha

Cons
- horrible FC. 70L tank can only go up to 380km in city. Mix of highway and city is only around 450km top.
- heavy for its class 
- scarcity of spare parts. Heard it's only about 500 units were sold on our shore.
- handling isn't that great. Feels a little gimmickry and not as connected
320i
Pros
- good looking car. Love the LCI lighting
- decent FC
- good power for its size. Torque is great for normal driving.
- great handling
- reliable ZF tranny
- spare parts are always easily available and isn't as pricey
- a little bonus for BMW badge snob? Lol

Cons
- dated interior
- prone to have minor issues here and there with the silly and unreliable sensors. Especially speed sensors.
- typical conti engine issues like coolant, gasket etc.
- B48 tends to have a part at the bottom of the engine that get rusty easily on Malaysia weather. Quite a costly fix too.
- sticky plastics. But it's an easy and cheap fix anyway

There. Still in a dilemma between the 2. Let me know if you have any suggestions within the budget. Only sedan, turbocharged and C/D segment. Bonus would be sunroof haha.
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I would definitely go with the BMW. Considering that both these cars are probably over their warranty period, its all about finding decent mechanics who are familiar with the maintenance, electronics and parts availability of these vehicles. I would say BMW has plenmty of stockists about and supply wise seem to be quite good for the F30

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post Aug 6 2022, 01:59 PM

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QUOTE(Quang1819 @ Jul 30 2022, 01:38 AM)
Hey guys, if you were to have a budget of 100-120k, which of the two you'd go for?

Optima GT
Pros
- powerful engine, great torque
- very planted at high speed (200km/h). Not that I'll go that fast but 160-180km/h on highway is absolutely comfortable. Cruises like a ship.
- decent interior
- panoramic roof
- spacious
- comfortable seats, like really comfortable
- not much but kinda like it's functional air vent at the front bumper haha

Cons
- horrible FC. 70L tank can only go up to 380km in city. Mix of highway and city is only around 450km top.
- heavy for its class 
- scarcity of spare parts. Heard it's only about 500 units were sold on our shore.
- handling isn't that great. Feels a little gimmickry and not as connected
320i
Pros
- good looking car. Love the LCI lighting
- decent FC
- good power for its size. Torque is great for normal driving.
- great handling
- reliable ZF tranny
- spare parts are always easily available and isn't as pricey
- a little bonus for BMW badge snob? Lol

Cons
- dated interior
- prone to have minor issues here and there with the silly and unreliable sensors. Especially speed sensors.
- typical conti engine issues like coolant, gasket etc.
- B48 tends to have a part at the bottom of the engine that get rusty easily on Malaysia weather. Quite a costly fix too.
- sticky plastics. But it's an easy and cheap fix anyway

There. Still in a dilemma between the 2. Let me know if you have any suggestions within the budget. Only sedan, turbocharged and C/D segment. Bonus would be sunroof haha.
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KIA optima GT FC mana ada so bad, im a GT facelifted owner, city driving max tank can goo 600km, highway up to 800km +
I don't know where u get the figure, but absolutely salah. lol
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post Aug 7 2022, 10:50 PM

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F30 for me. Remap and you'll get almost if not the same power as the gt. The zf trumps the slushbox in the gt anytime.
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QUOTE(amdxp @ Jul 30 2022, 06:31 PM)
Don't take Mazda 2.2 diesel, in any model at all.  You will regret it.
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Why lo? I've been a satisfied 2.2D owner for more than 2 years now. Best decision I've ever made.

This post has been edited by amscouzach57: Aug 9 2022, 12:35 PM
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post Aug 8 2022, 03:54 PM

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QUOTE(Corsair0418 @ Aug 6 2022, 01:59 PM)
KIA optima GT FC mana ada so bad, im a GT facelifted owner, city driving max tank can goo 600km, highway up to 800km +
I don't know where u get the figure, but absolutely salah. lol
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Exactly... 70l 380km is like 5km per litre. Sounds pretty impossible lol.
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post Aug 8 2022, 09:23 PM

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QUOTE(Corsair0418 @ Aug 6 2022, 01:59 PM)
KIA optima GT FC mana ada so bad, im a GT facelifted owner, city driving max tank can goo 600km, highway up to 800km +
I don't know where u get the figure, but absolutely salah. lol
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QUOTE(budang @ Aug 8 2022, 03:54 PM)
Exactly... 70l 380km is like 5km per litre. Sounds pretty impossible lol.
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Claimed by fellow preFL owner. quite a few said they could barely hit 400km in city
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post Aug 8 2022, 09:24 PM

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QUOTE(DM52 @ Aug 3 2022, 10:38 PM)
Just get civic lor. 180kmh can cruise comfortably. just lose on comfort level to optima gt. fuel consumption way more efficient than optima gt
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Tested it. It handles quite well, not sure if PS4 was the main reason of it. But still couldnt stand the soulless CVT
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QUOTE(Corsair0418 @ Aug 6 2022, 01:59 PM)
KIA optima GT FC mana ada so bad, im a GT facelifted owner, city driving max tank can goo 600km, highway up to 800km +
I don't know where u get the figure, but absolutely salah. lol
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QUOTE(budang @ Aug 8 2022, 03:54 PM)
Exactly... 70l 380km is like 5km per litre. Sounds pretty impossible lol.
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QUOTE(Quang1819 @ Aug 8 2022, 09:23 PM)
Claimed by fellow preFL owner. quite a few said they could barely hit 400km in city
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FC varied a lot owh..someone frequent do full throttle in town vs very light foot in town..

what make me surprise even bezza can be as low as 10km/L on fuelly.

lastly its ur rights leg and level of patience.

someone said on internet, they cannot maintain national speed limit due to their body will feel sore and muscle painful if maintain 110kmh. lel.


QUOTE(Quang1819 @ Aug 8 2022, 09:24 PM)
Tested it. It handles quite well, not sure if PS4 was the main reason of it. But still couldnt stand the soulless CVT
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cvt is like that. really potong stim if want to drive fast.

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