The Z650 did an average of only 1600km per year since 2017...??

Check carefully. Make sure it isn't a rebuilt accident wreck with a new dash.

This post has been edited by ZZR-Pilot: Jul 21 2022, 05:46 PM

Premium for sum insured RM25k is >RM1200?? Fuyohh!

Do you hv NCD?

In comparison, I'm paying RM1500 I think for first pty coverage for sum insured RM60k (888cc capacity) at max NCD.

The cost is easily justifiable to me coz I whack the bike to work since it is offset by the savings I make by not paying for expensive diesel & toll if I were to drive my SUV instead. It would be more diff to justify paying for that amount for a show bike / weekend toy. But that's just me lah.

If you buy the bike in cash, you can opt for 3rd pty insurance which costs a hell lot less... if u can stomach the risk.

This post has been edited by ZZR-Pilot: Jul 22 2022, 11:53 AM

The last time I bought 3rd pty was when I owned a Dominar D400 which I paid for in cash.

At the time it was just out of warranty after 2 years of ownership & I wanted to get rid of it within the next few months, so I bought 3rd party insurance due to the limited risk.

My TNT600 daily driver was also on 3rd pty insurance during the last year I owned it. I knew I was a careful rider, but life taught me otherwise - it went up in flames when the workshop burned down after I sent it in to hv its shock absorber replaced in 2019. Could not claim anything for shit, fortunately the workshop owner was willing to reimburse me for my loss.

Lesson learned.

Nowadays, hearing horror stories of Brembo calipers being stolen I don't dare to rely on 3rd pty insurance for my current bike even though I paid for it in cash also.

Buy 3rd pty insurance only if you can afford to absorb the cost if something unfortunate happens.

That means, if you hv the means to afford accident repairs at your own cost, you can financially afford to lose the bike, your risk is limited (ie you live in a secure area, you're a defensive rider & u seldom ride or your bike is unpopular to thieves) or your livelihood does not depend on having that bike... then 3rd pty insurance is a viable option.

This post has been edited by ZZR-Pilot: Jul 22 2022, 05:59 PM

Looks nice, but under those new plastics is pretty much the same bike as the last one... which is underwhelming after almost 10 years. To me least.

But it probably remains the cheapest 4-cyl bike u can buy new.

One bugbear with Chinese big bikes is that they tend to be quite heavy for their class. This is the one area they have yet to catch up with the Japs.

On the other hand, my wife's 700 CL-X is pretty light for a 700cc bike... so maybe it's a sign of things to come?

This post has been edited by ZZR-Pilot: Jul 22 2022, 07:19 PM

Took my wife on her first ride up to Gohtong Jaya on Sunday. Memang kena tahan roadblock.

She had L stickers on her bike, so the cop definitely interrogated her how come ride big bike but L license only?

Luckily she brought along the pass slip from her successful B Full test 2 weeks ago & explained she just hadn't the time to go to JPJ to update her license after UTC gave her the run-around last week.

Less bikes going up Genting nowadays as a result of the roadblock, probably due to a lot of riders not having the required license & having illegal loud exhausts designed to wake up the dead. I think that's a good thing.